Royale with Cheese Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 https://theathletic.com/747229/2019/01/03/wood-what-my-bills-offseason-shopping-list-would-look-like/ Didn't see it posted before so I DEEPLY apologize if this offends anyone. I don't have a subscription to the Athletic so maybe someone who does can post the entire article? Bueller? Bueller? [see below. do not post the entire article] 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 Can you share a snippet of the meaty part of the article? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Magox said: Can you share a snippet of the meaty part of the article? It doesn't give anything other that the intro to Eric Wood and a paragraph leading into what he's going to talk about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Magox said: Can you share a snippet of the meaty part of the article? I signed up for the Athletic just for E. Wood. The Athletic ended up being worth every penny. The best content out there right now. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: https://theathletic.com/747229/2019/01/03/wood-what-my-bills-offseason-shopping-list-would-look-like/ Didn't see it posted before so I DEEPLY apologize if this offends anyone. I don't have a subscription to the Athletic so maybe someone who does can post the entire article? Bueller? Bueller? Please do not post the whole article. That is a violation of copyright law and against the TOS here. Selective quotes are allowed under "Fair Use" ,especially if they illustrate a point the writer is making ("transformative") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted January 4, 2019 Author Share Posted January 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Please do not post the whole article. That is a violation of copyright law and against the TOS here. Selective quotes are allowed under "Fair Use" ,especially if they illustrate a point the writer is making ("transformative") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, Magox said: Can you share a snippet of the meaty part of the article? Nothing specific on players, but this was interesting from his insidr perspective: Quote My thoughts on the offensive line aren’t completely formulated because of the decision to move on from assistant coach Juan Castillo. I appreciated what he did for me as a player, and this past season he constantly reached out to me to make sure I was OK. He’s a great dude. But when you move on to a new offensive line coach, you can expect he’ll bring with him players he’s familiar with and likes. When Juan came to the Bills, he brought Vlad Ducasse with him. When Aaron Kromer was here, he brought Ryan Groy and Jordan Mills with him. When the Bills got rid of Joe D’Alessandris and he went to the Chargers, he took Doug Legursky, Chad Rinehart and Chris Hairston. The process is different than it is for other positions because O-line coaches have specific techniques they prefer to teach. Once they’ve trained a veteran who has played under them, they can have those former players show the other guys what they’re trying to do. Bills offensive coordinator Brian Daboll spent 11 years with the New England Patriots and worked closely with their legendary O-line coach, Dante Scarnecchia, who is known for getting his guys to play with precise technique. Juan tried to do that, too, but when you bring in a new offensive coordinator and production is weak, changes will be made. The direction Sean McDermott takes will tell us a lot, and Daboll’s input on the hire could be significant. 5 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 13 minutes ago, Magox said: Can you share a snippet of the meaty part of the article? Wood points at the Chicago Bears as a model for WR additions: " Last offseason, the Bears didn’t bring in superstars for second-year quarterback Mitchell Trubisky. They signed receivers Taylor Gabriel and Allen Robinson and tight end Trey Burton. They finished second, third and fourth in receiving for a team that went 12-4 and won the NFC North. " He says Clay is a good TE when healthy and impressed him (Wood) by his willingness to block and do the dirty work. The Bills finished the season with 21 or 22 sets on most run plays, and Clay served his time in the trenches. It's under-appreciated how that takes a toll on a guy I think. Wood says " He has struggled to stay healthy, and I don’t know where his body is at 30 years old next month. 24-year-old Jason Croom, who’s also more of a receiver-type, needs to develop this offseason." He doesn't mention Logan Thomas at all. On OL, Wood says: "My thoughts on the offensive line aren’t completely formulated because of the decision to move on from assistant coach Juan Castillo. (....) when you move on to a new offensive line coach, you can expect he’ll bring with him players he’s familiar with and likes. When Juan came to the Bills, he brought Vlad Ducasse with him. When Aaron Kromer was here, he brought Ryan Groy and Jordan Mills with him. When the Bills got rid of Joe D’Alessandris and he went to the Chargers, he took Doug Legursky, Chad Rinehart and Chris Hairston. The process is different than it is for other positions because O-line coaches have specific techniques they prefer to teach. Once they’ve trained a veteran who has played under them, they can have those former players show the other guys what they’re trying to do." He implies the Bills can't depend entirely on the draft: " You’d love to say, “Let’s use some early picks and shore up that O-line with college kids.” But the prospects don’t always leave college with much polish because the offenses down there can be so much different than anything they’ll see in the NFL. " Fundamentally, Wood seems to be saying that the OL coach has heavy input into the selection of players and should, so that he gets guys that will work with his preferred techniques, and that the OL coach selection will drive what the Bills do as far as OL additions. (If anyone else interprets that differently, please challenge). He also points out the impact adding a "supreme pass rusher" can have and specifically names Demarcus Lawrence of the Cowboys. He intriguingly says: " Entering the third season under McDermott and Beane, the culture probably is good enough — even with Kyle moving on — that if you wanted to roll the dice on a superstar with issues, the Bills might have the foundation in place to do that. " 2 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 (edited) Cliff Notes: Chicago model referenced more than once WR - Zay, Foster, and McKenzie are pieces to work around, but they need help. Specifically Vet help. TE - Need more production from the position. Clay will be 30 and has struggled to stay healthy OL - Feels the moves here will be tied heavily to the OL coach selection. NE coach that Daboll worked with was all about precise technique Had very nice things to say about Juan Castillo as a person Who is hired to fill the coaching voids will say a lot about how much influence Daboll has Need a pass rusher opposite Hughes, such as DeMarcus Lawrence, or some cap casualty that hasn't hit the market yet An established punter would help ST's overall Edited January 4, 2019 by BuffaloHokie13 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice_32 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 9 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: I signed up for the Athletic just for E. Wood. The Athletic ended up being worth every penny. The best content out there right now. Agree, I’ve loved it and will maintain my subscription. I like how wood compared our situation at WR to that of the Bears. We will likely have 3 WR2’s who will share touches rather than a true feature WR1. In a dream world Daboll is going to want to spread the ball around and exploit weekly matchups. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 12 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: I signed up for the Athletic just for E. Wood. The Athletic ended up being worth every penny. The best content out there right now. I have also found The Athletic to provide good value. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 13 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said: I signed up for the Athletic just for E. Wood. The Athletic ended up being worth every penny. The best content out there right now. I will subscribe. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Cliff Notes: Chicago model referenced more than once WR - Zay, Foster, and McKenzie are pieces to work around, but they need help. Specifically Vet help. TE - Need more production from the position. Clay will be 30 and has struggled to stay healthy OL - Feels the moves here will be tied heavily to the OL coach selection. NE coach that Daboll worked with was all about precise technique Had very nice things to say about Juan Castillo as a person Who is hired to fill the coaching voids will say a lot about how much influence Daboll has Need a pass rusher opposite Hughes, such as DeMarcus Lawrence, or some cap casualty that hasn't hit the market yet An established punter would help ST's overall A few thoughts here: - No doubt about WR and TE; they need to make a trade AND a FA signing - I wonder if, based on Daboll's preference, they'll make a play for Alabama's Brent Key at OL coach - I think EDGE rusher is a HUGE need, but they have an in-house candidate for that role in Edmunds...if they're willing to move him out to the EDGE in a Bruce Irvin type role. I know people won't like hearing it, but it probably gives him the best chance to make the most impact, and Julian Stanford actually looked quite solid playing the Mike - I continue to believe that the team was set on keeping Cory Carter as their punter before he tore his ACL in pre-season. He was impressive in TC and was crushing the ball in games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 3 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: Cliff Notes: Chicago model referenced more than once WR - Zay, Foster, and McKenzie are pieces to work around, but they need help. Specifically Vet help. TE - Need more production from the position. Clay will be 30 and has struggled to stay healthy OL - Feels the moves here will be tied heavily to the OL coach selection. NE coach that Daboll worked with was all about precise technique Had very nice things to say about Juan Castillo as a person Who is hired to fill the coaching voids will say a lot about how much influence Daboll has Need a pass rusher opposite Hughes, such as DeMarcus Lawrence, or some cap casualty that hasn't hit the market yet An established punter would help ST's overall Good summary. What he actually said about Daboll is: " The direction Sean McDermott takes will tell us a lot, and Daboll’s input on the hire could be significant. " I don't know that I saw him as directly linking the hire as a "tell" to Daboll's influence. 4 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: - I continue to believe that the team was set on keeping Cory Carter as their punter before he tore his ACL in pre-season. He was impressive in TC and was crushing the ball in games. So ACL is often viewed as a 2 yr recovery. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: So ACL is often viewed as a 2 yr recovery. Thoughts? Yeah, I guess it really depends on how well he's recovered. We've seen players come back from ACLs in a single calendar year, and I'd like to think that a punter isn't using his COD skills as much as a skill-position player, but it's definitely a concern. Either way, they need some competition for the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Good summary. What he actually said about Daboll is: " The direction Sean McDermott takes will tell us a lot, and Daboll’s input on the hire could be significant. " I don't know that I saw him as directly linking the hire as a "tell" to Daboll's influence. Id like to see Dabol bring on his own guys at OL and WR coaches. McDermott is a defensive specialist. He has proven he is still a novice on the offensive side of the football. In 3 years he will have: 2 offensive coordinators 3 WR coaches 2 OL coaches and still counting...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 16 minutes ago, Magox said: I will subscribe. Thanks You wont regret it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 (edited) If the Bills were to add a legit pass rusher, their defense could truly be special. I agree with Bandit regarding Cory Carter. That injury messed up their plans. Edited January 4, 2019 by DCbillsfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 31 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Wood points at the Chicago Bears as a model for WR additions: " Last offseason, the Bears didn’t bring in superstars for second-year quarterback Mitchell Trubisky. They signed receivers Taylor Gabriel and Allen Robinson and tight end Trey Burton. They finished second, third and fourth in receiving for a team that went 12-4 and won the NFC North. " He says Clay is a good TE when healthy and impressed him (Wood) by his willingness to block and do the dirty work. The Bills finished the season with 21 or 22 sets on most run plays, and Clay served his time in the trenches. It's under-appreciated how that takes a toll on a guy I think. Wood says " He has struggled to stay healthy, and I don’t know where his body is at 30 years old next month. 24-year-old Jason Croom, who’s also more of a receiver-type, needs to develop this offseason." He doesn't mention Logan Thomas at all. On OL, Wood says: "My thoughts on the offensive line aren’t completely formulated because of the decision to move on from assistant coach Juan Castillo. (....) when you move on to a new offensive line coach, you can expect he’ll bring with him players he’s familiar with and likes. When Juan came to the Bills, he brought Vlad Ducasse with him. When Aaron Kromer was here, he brought Ryan Groy and Jordan Mills with him. When the Bills got rid of Joe D’Alessandris and he went to the Chargers, he took Doug Legursky, Chad Rinehart and Chris Hairston. The process is different than it is for other positions because O-line coaches have specific techniques they prefer to teach. Once they’ve trained a veteran who has played under them, they can have those former players show the other guys what they’re trying to do." He implies the Bills can't depend entirely on the draft: " You’d love to say, “Let’s use some early picks and shore up that O-line with college kids.” But the prospects don’t always leave college with much polish because the offenses down there can be so much different than anything they’ll see in the NFL. " Fundamentally, Wood seems to be saying that the OL coach has heavy input into the selection of players and should, so that he gets guys that will work with his preferred techniques, and that the OL coach selection will drive what the Bills do as far as OL additions. (If anyone else interprets that differently, please challenge). He also points out the impact adding a "supreme pass rusher" can have and specifically names Demarcus Lawrence of the Cowboys. He intriguingly says: " Entering the third season under McDermott and Beane, the culture probably is good enough — even with Kyle moving on — that if you wanted to roll the dice on a superstar with issues, the Bills might have the foundation in place to do that. " I was thinking about the Chicago model on my way in to work. I think it is a great point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted January 4, 2019 Share Posted January 4, 2019 he didn't really give a shopping list outside of demarcus lawrence. it was so vague Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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