buffaloboyinATL Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: On another subject while I completely think pot is harmless for pretty much all NFL players (there's always exceptions). the drug has absolutely no PED qualities.. in fact I'd imagine quite the opposite and it'd be pretty damn hard to focus on minute details like the PLAYBOOK and snap count, and for all intents and purposes should be the players' business using the drug.... I don't find for a second that it helps with pain relief anymore than placebo compared to a legitimate narcotic PAINKILLER which specifically targets pain receptors while marijuana is simply a mind altering drug.. maybe it distracts you from pain I GUESS. Pharmacology of marijuana simply points it to be a psychoactive drug so any percieved effects on pain relief are just that.. percieved lol. So I don't get the push to allow marijuana in the NFL as a friggin replacement to pain. I just don't think it really needs to be banned since it really does nothing to these players whatsoever other than what they think they are benefitting from it lol. Always found that a weird argument. Don't ban pot and players will stop taking pain killers?? Nah there's no benign action from the drug in that regard. Just don't ban it cause it doesn't matter and if someone thinks it helps.. cool.. whatever. It really does nothing to your neurotransmitters or body at all as far as modern medicine is supposed to do for ailments. And I know a million people say anecdotally it cures any symptom you can name.. that's just because it's a psychoactive drug that creates a placebo for whatever you want to imagine it benefits you for. I respectfully disagree. Completely. There are tons of studies out there about the effectiveness cannibis of for pain relief. Marijuana is not just limited to smoking a joint and getting high. There is plenty of evidence that CBD, which does not cause a high at all, does interact with the brain to cause pain-relieving and anti-inflammatory effects. This is available through oils, balms, drops, gummies, pills etc. I have heard interviews with many former NFL players, such as Kyle Turley, who swear that CBD helped break their addiction to opioids and effectively saved their lives. In spite of the fact that CBD does not "get you high" it is still on the NFL banned substance list. So again, I disagree with your argument that there are no beneficial effects that would come from removing marijuana from the banned list, or at least altering the language to allow CBD usage. (honestly not sure if that is possible or not or if tests could differentiate.) Edited December 20, 2018 by buffaloboyinATL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 By John Aguilar | jaguilar@denverpost.com | The Denver Post Amid a rise in Colorado auto fatalities involving marijuana, state transportation officials are surveying thousands of residents this year to better understand public attitudes toward driving under the influence of pot, with the hopes of blunting the increasingly deadly trend. The Cannabis Conversation, a campaign led by the Colorado Department of Transportation, law enforcement and the marijuana industry, launched this year. It held its first open house in the metro area Wednesday at Denver’s Montclair Recreation Center, and there will be more meetings in Fort Collins, Pueblo and Denver in the coming weeks. The number of marijuana-related automobile fatalities in Colorado, as measured by the drug’s chief psychoactive ingredient, hit 77 in 2016, the latest in a series of sharp increases in recent years. Fifty-one of those drivers had levels of that substance, called Delta 9 THC, above the threshold for cannabis impairment under Colorado law. And according to a survey done by CDOT last year, just over half of marijuana users said they had gotten behind the wheel of a vehicle in the last 30 days within two hours of using the drug. That percentage was little changed from the response to the same question a year earlier. “That’s really troubling to us,” CDOT communications manager Sam Cole told an audience gathered at a Lowry neighborhood recreation center last week. “We’re a little frustrated we’re not moving the needle on driver behavior.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bing Bong Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 29 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said: I respectfully disagree. Completely. There are tons of studies out there about the effectiveness cannibis of for pain relief. Marijuana is not just limited to smoking a joint and getting high. There is plenty of evidence that CBD, which does not cause a high at all, does interact with the brain to cause pain-relieving and anti-inflammatory effects. This is available through oils, balms, drops, gummies, pills etc. I have heard interviews with many former NFL players, such as Kyle Turley, who swear that CBD helped break their addiction to opioids and effectively saved their lives. In spite of the fact that CBD does not "get you high" it is still on the NFL banned substance list. So again, I disagree with your argument that there are no beneficial effects that would come from removing marijuana from the banned list, or at least altering the language to allow CBD usage. (honestly not sure if that is possible or not or if tests could differentiate.) That's true I actually just found out about CBD. Always thought it was all about THC. But is CBD even banned?? It's completely legal in my neck of the woods and I don't think it's a scheduled drug itself. Federally. Could be wrong. But you can buy those extracts. I do think THC and whatever else is active in cannibis has it's uses.. proven to be very effective for cancer patients in stimulating appetite among other things. And stimulating appetite for cancer patients has a huge deal going through chemo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSB2020 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 They really seem to sincerely like Josh Gordon the man even in their ho-hum Patriot way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 So the line actually went UP to 13.5 with Gordon announcement... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 23 minutes ago, BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P said: That's true I actually just found out about CBD. Always thought it was all about THC. But is CBD even banned?? It's completely legal in my neck of the woods and I don't think it's a scheduled drug itself. Federally. Could be wrong. But you can buy those extracts. I do think THC and whatever else is active in cannibis has it's uses.. proven to be very effective for cancer patients in stimulating appetite among other things. And stimulating appetite for cancer patients has a huge deal going through chemo CBD is on the NFL banned list, despite the lobbying by many former players for a change. My guess is, the NFL will consider a change in the next CBA negotiation, and use the removal from the banned list as a bargaining chip to get something they want in return. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Capco Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 5 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: So much virtue signaling in EVERY direction in this thread. I know! There's even one guy virtue signalling about virtue signalling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, Capco said: I know! There's even one guy virtue signalling about virtue signalling! Crazytown!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Golden Goat Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 This saddens me. I was rooting for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 (edited) 47 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said: CBD is on the NFL banned list, despite the lobbying by many former players for a change. My guess is, the NFL will consider a change in the next CBA negotiation, and use the removal from the banned list as a bargaining chip to get something they want in return. Interesting. It's actually banned by the feds but pretty much readily available in any state on a hemp technicality. Can sell/grow plants with no THC content and extract for just CBD. I think if it was DEA approved it'd be a different story. but I can't see a federally scheduled drug being okayed by the NFL. I'd also suspect testing for CBD is a method to make sure players are on zero cannibinoids.. just another way to catch players smoking low THC marijuana even if it's just the chemical extract. Not afraid to say I've given it a shot, it's everywhere!.. and it's like taking green tea with high strength ibuprofen. Calming, cognitive, and does help with pain. And I have read that it truly does have medicinal/OTC quality relief. Absolutely no psychoactive properties.. just another light benign drug is the consensus I hear from doctors. Can't see it being allowed by the NFL until the DEA changes its virtually unenforced federal legality at the very least though. I'll admit ibuprofen can take a beating on the body from my playing days. Only OTC painkiller that relieves and reduces swelling and recovers athletes. And it wrecked my stomach having to play through injuries and constantly take it multiple times a day as a soccer player playing 90 minutes of high level competition running at least 10 miles a game and playing every other day. You need it to do anything possible to reduce reaggrivating muscle pulls and tears playing at the clip college soccer players do. Edited December 21, 2018 by BarkleyForGOATBackupPT5P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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EasternOHBillsFan Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 10 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said: you have no idea what the hell you are talking about. I suggest you shut up on the subject! Absolutely not. Speaking as someone with close to 14 years of sobriety, it absolutely amazes me, the idiots on this board that are so narrow-minded, living in a bubble, that really have no idea what addiction or mental health really is. WE don't get SIX CHANCES like this star athlete got, so spare me the narrow-minded soapbox talk. Sports enabled him and we shouldn't treat him with kid gloves because he continued to cash checks and not take his health seriously... if he was REALLY troubled, he would have left a LONG TIME AGO, and not because the NFL FORCED him to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 10 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said: you have no idea what the hell you are talking about. I suggest you shut up on the subject! Absolutely not. Speaking as someone with close to 14 years of sobriety, it absolutely amazes me, the idiots on this board that are so narrow-minded, living in a bubble, that really have no idea what addiction or mental health really is. Amen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 21, 2018 Author Share Posted December 21, 2018 8 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: WE don't get SIX CHANCES like this star athlete got, so spare me the narrow-minded soapbox talk. Sports enabled him and we shouldn't treat him with kid gloves because he continued to cash checks and not take his health seriously... if he was REALLY troubled, he would have left a LONG TIME AGO, and not because the NFL FORCED him to. Another enlightened view. If it were someone in your family of course you would have given up on them. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 It amazes me how many people talk about the millions of dollars, and cashing the checks. That sounds like petty jealousy to me. Addicts don’t see money as the bottom line. It’s a different way of thinking. If you haven’t lived it, you don’t get it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Another enlightened view. If it were someone in your family of course you would have given up on them. My family no. someone who I will never meet and only have any interest about due to a leisure time silly pursuit, much more likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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