Doc Brown Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Taro T said: Little doubt of that. But really didn't expect 44 to have a Super Majority (short lived as it was). So, would prefer to not see what sort of damage they could work with Pelosi & Shummer not what Executive Orders either would come up with. True, but '08 was the perfect storm for Republicans as the Iraq War became deeply unpopular, we were going through the greatest crisis since the great depression, and the response to Hurricane Katrina by Bush was portrayed as inept by the media (unfairly in my opinion). I doubt you'll see another Supermajority. Even with the Supermajority the most centrist Democrats killed the public option in order to get the ACA through. Now, if either party in power of all three branches killed the filibuster in the Senate it would be a whole different ball game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 7 hours ago, Doc Brown said: True, but '08 was the perfect storm for Republicans as the Iraq War became deeply unpopular, we were going through the greatest crisis since the great depression, and the response to Hurricane Katrina by Bush was portrayed as inept by the media (unfairly in my opinion). I doubt you'll see another Supermajority. Even with the Supermajority the most centrist Democrats killed the public option in order to get the ACA through. Now, if either party in power of all three branches killed the filibuster in the Senate it would be a whole different ball game. The media did not only portray Bush as inept regarding Katrina but also as a racist. That seems to be the point in time that all on the right became racists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 37 minutes ago, Chef Jim said: The media did not only portray Bush as inept regarding Katrina but also as a racist. That seems to be the point in time that all on the right became racists. What's scary is people like you believe that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said: What's scary is people like you believe that... People like me believe what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Boca BIlls said: What's scary is people like you believe that... So the left didn't run with "George Bush doesn’t care about black people"? Don't be a schmuck. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Koko78 said: So the left didn't run with "George Bush doesn’t care about black people"? Don't be a schmuck. That's like asking Gleeful Gator not to be a dumbass. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 5 hours ago, Chef Jim said: The media did not only portray Bush as inept regarding Katrina but also as a racist. That seems to be the point in time that all on the right became racists. I don't remember the media suggesting that but I do remember race baiters like Jesse Jackson saying that the slow response time from FEMA would've been quicker if the majority impacted by the hurricane weren't black. Then of course Kanye's usual craving for attention by saying "George Bush doesn't care about black people" going off script during a telethon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 I remember a lot of unused busses intended for evacuation of people that had no other way out. I also remember the New Orleans mayor trying to skirt his responsibility by blaming Bush. I wonder what ever happened to him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Doc Brown said: I don't remember the media suggesting that but I do remember race baiters like Jesse Jackson saying that the slow response time from FEMA would've been quicker if the majority impacted by the hurricane weren't black. Then of course Kanye's usual craving for attention by saying "George Bush doesn't care about black people" going off script during a telethon. You're right, they didn't suggest that...directly. Bback then, the media would report Quote "Black people are mad because they feel the reason for the slow response is because those people are black and they didn't support George Bush," said Ron Walters, a professor of government and politics at the University of Maryland. Whereas today, they'd just say "The reason for the slow response is because those people are black and they didn't support Donald Trump." It's rather remarkable, how the reporting has changed in 15 years. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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B-Man Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 AOC: U.S. Must Provide Lifelong Mental Healthcare Services To Migrant Children Because Of Trauma We Have Caused AOC held a town hall event on immigration in Queens, NY on Saturday. The young Congresswoman believes the U.S. government must make a “lifelong commitment” to provide mental healthcare services to migrant children. The reason? Because of the lifelong trauma we inflict upon them when we separate them from their parents at the border. AOC told the crowd: . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, B-Man said: AOC: U.S. Must Provide Lifelong Mental Healthcare Services To Migrant Children Because Of Trauma We Have Caused AOC held a town hall event on immigration in Queens, NY on Saturday. The young Congresswoman believes the U.S. government must make a “lifelong commitment” to provide mental healthcare services to migrant children. The reason? Because of the lifelong trauma we inflict upon them when we separate them from their parents at the border. AOC told the crowd: . AOC seriously needs to get laid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 On 7/21/2019 at 2:28 AM, Doc Brown said: True, but '08 was the perfect storm for Republicans as the Iraq War became deeply unpopular, we were going through the greatest crisis since the great depression, and the response to Hurricane Katrina by Bush was portrayed as inept by the media (unfairly in my opinion). I doubt you'll see another Supermajority. Even with the Supermajority the most centrist Democrats killed the public option in order to get the ACA through. Now, if either party in power of all three branches killed the filibuster in the Senate it would be a whole different ball game. The republicans would have won in 08 with McCain if they didn't have Palin as his running mate. As much as the DNC screwed the pooch in 16 the repubs did the same in 08. They tried to capitalize on the womens vote and grab Hillary supporters by adding Palin. They underestimated how dumb she was and I firmly believe she cost them the election. Just like the DNC underestimated how much people disliked Hillary. I'm a dem and wanted to vote McCain and still did even with Palin dragging him down. Who better to lead us out of an unwinnable war than a decorated war veteran? See what I did there? I was objective about both parties. Those Trump tweets were dumb. You don't have to defend everything he does just because you are Republican. He has done some good and he has done some bad. These tweets were a bad look from him and it is okay to admit it. I know it is politics but "go back to where you came from" to elected representatives let alone just regular people shouldn't be an acceptable way to talk to people. It is just so embarrassing to watch our President get into twitter beefs with people. Twitter beefs. A 73 year old man. Twitter beefs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, section122 said: It is just so embarrassing to watch our President get into twitter beefs with people. Twitter beefs. A 73 year old man. Twitter beefs. I hear what you're saying but it's deeper than Twitter beefs -- and many millions of Americans are not embarrassed by them (right or wrong), but find them refreshing to see someone fight back against the outrage machine. The same machine that's been used for decades (but has been given PEDs since 2001) to crush any rational discourse or objections to the establishment's agenda with cries of "RACIST! SEXIST! HOMOPHOBIC! EVIL!" Trump uses his Twitter to vent, sure, but also as a laser pointer. By tweeting he forces the media to cover certain stories they'd otherwise ignore. It forces the dishonest folk within the media (of which there are plenty) to expose their own hypocrisies and poorly reasoned logic in efforts to condemn the tweets or protect the targets of the tweets. It's an ongoing education for millions of Americans as to just how dishonest, controlled, and dangerous the MSM is. So it bumps you, because you're not a republican (and it bumps plenty of republicans as well as independents) -- but the overall effect is to increase awareness, solidify his base, and punch back against an organized propaganda machine in such a way that exposes that machine to new scrutiny by millions of Americans. That's a win-win-win for Trump and his agenda. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 On 7/19/2019 at 12:49 PM, plenzmd1 said: i said nothing bout that..ever! As said, i don't have a problem with him having sex with anyone, as long as it was consensual.I also don't think everyone who has strayed is an immoral cretin, i think we all make mistakes in this life. But I don't think the Evangelicals think that way and that was my point Maybe they like President Trump because he would rather not have babies in their 9th month aborted and celebrate a "victory" like this by lighting up the Empire State Building in pink with taxpayer dollars. If you support things like this and attacking Israel you should be against our President. If not, point me to a democrat running in the primary who is on the conservative side of these two issues. I'll wait.....;) 52 minutes ago, B-Man said: AOC: U.S. Must Provide Lifelong Mental Healthcare Services To Migrant Children Because Of Trauma We Have Caused AOC held a town hall event on immigration in Queens, NY on Saturday. The young Congresswoman believes the U.S. government must make a “lifelong commitment” to provide mental healthcare services to migrant children. The reason? Because of the lifelong trauma we inflict upon them when we separate them from their parents at the border. AOC told the crowd: . Absolutely disgusting, evil, and insane. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: If not, point me to a democrat running in the primary who is on the conservative side of these two issues. I'll wait.....;) As I am sure you know, you will have a long wait. Diversity to the Left means skin pigmentation and genitalia............................Diversity of Thought is NOT allowed. . 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 On 7/19/2019 at 12:28 PM, plenzmd1 said: Is this very discussion not proof? Some really smart people here have said this whole tweet thing was politically motivated. If so, Trump views iy as advantage to the nation to be totally divided on its meaning/message. Yes. Agreed completely. And when the powerful speakers of the Dem party speak about Republicans being “Racist, Misogynists, Homophobic, Xenophobic, White Supremacists, Deplorables, Despicable, Nazis, Traitors, Putin’s Puppets, Un-American, Gullible, Low-Information Voters, Under-educated, Dog Whistle Code Talkers, Gay-Bashing, African American Hating, Anti-Immigration, Hispanic Detesting, Islamic-hating Christian WASPS and Catholics” they’re only doing so to “unite” the country. Thanks for for clearing that up. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 34 minutes ago, section122 said: Twitter beefs. A 73 year old man. Twitter beefs. Twitter and social media know no age. It's stereotypically millennials and young people,, but really it's everybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: I hear what you're saying but it's deeper than Twitter beefs -- and many millions of Americans are not embarrassed by them (right or wrong), but find them refreshing to see someone fight back against the outrage machine. The same machine that's been used for decades (but has been given PEDs since 2001) to crush any rational discourse or objections to the establishment's agenda with cries of "RACIST! SEXIST! HOMOPHOBIC! EVIL!" Trump uses his Twitter to vent, sure, but also as a laser pointer. By tweeting he forces the media to cover certain stories they'd otherwise ignore. It forces the dishonest folk within the media (of which there are plenty) to expose their own hypocrisies and poorly reasoned logic in efforts to condemn the tweets or protect the targets of the tweets. It's an ongoing education for millions of Americans as to just how dishonest, controlled, and dangerous the MSM is. So it bumps you, because you're not a republican (and it bumps plenty of republicans as well as independents) -- but the overall effect is to increase awareness, solidify his base, and punch back against an organized propaganda machine in such a way that exposes that machine to new scrutiny by millions of Americans. That's a win-win-win for Trump and his agenda. I see where you are coming from but I see it a bit differently. The media is absolutely biased but it is on both sides. Fox News spent 8 years screaming about Obama being Kenyan and how he was the Antichrist. Now that it is a republican it is CNN's turn to do the same. The outrage machine exists because people eat it up and I feel that Trump not only feeds it but uses it his benefit which in turn creates more divisiveness in our country. It does indeed energize his base and I get it. It was a masterclass watching him dismantle first the republican primary then Hillary during debates. He used soundbites (wrong!) and personal attacks to take them down one by one. His debates with Hillary were hilarious because she was the "consummate" politician using canned answers and talking points while he came in like a bulldozer. She had no idea how to handle it. We differ in the opinion that it increases awareness. I think it only serves to increase divisiveness. People bury their head and only read what they want. Look at @B-Man. God bless him for sharing so many articles but have you ever seen one shared that isn't completely slanted against dems? Snowflake, libtard, etc. are names casually thrown about. I guess it is a bit pollyanna-ish of me but to me Trump fans the flames more than anything else constructive he is doing. Edited July 23, 2019 by section122 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 On 7/22/2019 at 11:21 AM, B-Man said: . Only Mars would have made that better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 1 hour ago, njbuff said: AOC seriously needs to get laid. Anthony Weiner. He's in the same boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Bill from NYC said: Maybe they like President Trump because he would rather not have babies in their 9th month aborted and celebrate a "victory" like this by lighting up the Empire State Building in pink with taxpayer dollars. If you support things like this and attacking Israel you should be against our President. If not, point me to a democrat running in the primary who is on the conservative side of these two issues. I'll wait.....;) Absolutely disgusting, evil, and insane. The President cannot over rule the Supreme Court when it comes to pro-life or pro choice laws. The state laws can be challenged in the SC. Both parties have always supported Israel. Israel is still safe and sound today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, ALF said: Both parties have always supported Israel. Tell that to Netanyahu. They are naming streets after President Trump. Barack Hussein Obama dropped off all of that money to Iran, their sworn enemy. You know all of this. Why not just tell the truth. And tell us about how you personally feel about Israel and Jews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 43 minutes ago, section122 said: I see where you are coming from but I see it a bit differently. The media is absolutely biased but it is on both sides. Fox News spent 8 years screaming about Obama being Kenyan and how he was the Antichrist. Now that it is a republican it is CNN's turn to do the same. The outrage machine exists because people eat it up and I feel that Trump not only feeds it but uses it his benefit which in turn creates more divisiveness in our country. It does indeed energize his base and I get it. It was a masterclass watching him dismantle first the republican primary then Hillary during debates. He used soundbites (wrong!) and personal attacks to take them down one by one. His debates with Hillary were hilarious because she was the "consummate" politician using canned answers and talking points while he came in like a bulldozer. She had no idea how to handle it. We differ in the opinion that it increases awareness. I think it only serves to increase divisiveness. People bury their head and only read what they want. Look at @B-Man. God bless him for sharing so many articles but have you ever seen one shared that isn't completely slanted against dems? Snowflake, libtard, etc. are names casually thrown about. I guess it is a bit pollyanna-ish of me but to me Trump fans the flames more than anything else constructive he is doing. Fox News actually has a news department and separates its journalists from its commentators. Much of its coverage is pretty straight up news while Hannity and Carlson are nothing more than conservative talk show hosts and make no bones about it. Shepard Smith is really a lefty and inserts that into what is claimed to be a news program. The MSM mixes their news with their commentary and one has to be very, very careful to listen and evaluate what you hear. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 12 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: Tell that to Netanyahu. They are naming streets after President Trump. Barack Hussein Obama dropped off all of that money to Iran, their sworn enemy. You know all of this. Why not just tell the truth. And tell us about how you personally feel about Israel and Jews. I have always loved Israel and the Jews. Israel was never in danger when Obama was President. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, ALF said: I have always loved Israel and the Jews. Israel was never in danger when Obama was President. Obama gave their sworn enemy, who happens to be the world's largest supporter of terrorism $1, 800,000,000 in cash and released $150,000,000,000 that Iran used some or all of to promote terrorism. As usual Obama took a shortcut for legacy purposes and made matters worse. If he had held firm and kept the sanctions going the Iran question would most likely have been already settled. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 13 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Obama gave their sworn enemy, who happens to be the world's largest supporter of terrorism $1, 800,000,000 in cash and released $150,000,000,000 that Iran used some or all of to promote terrorism. As usual Obama took a shortcut for legacy purposes and made matters worse. If he had held firm and kept the sanctions going the Iran question would most likely have been already settled. The U.S. has Israel's back no matter what either parties President will do , bank on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 1 minute ago, ALF said: The U.S. has Israel's back no matter what either parties President will do , bank on it. What makes you say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 36 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: one has to be very, very careful to listen and evaluate what you hear. I wish people were better at this lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, ALF said: The U.S. has Israel's back no matter what either parties President will do , bank on it. Gee, what president interfered with Israeli elections in 2016? https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/12/obama-admin-sent-taxpayer-money-oust-netanyahu/ The State Department paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxpayers grants to an Israeli group that used the money to build a campaign to oust Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in last year’s Israeli parliamentary elections, a congressional investigation concluded Tuesday. Some $350,000 was sent to OneVoice, ostensibly to support the group’s efforts to back Israeli-Palestinian peace settlement negotiations. But OneVoice used the money to build a voter database, train activists and hire a political consulting firm with ties to President Obama’s campaign — all of which set the stage for an anti-Netanyahu campaign, the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations said in a bipartisan staff report. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: What makes you say that? Has any enemy of Israel been able to defeat them . They know the U.S. will step in no matter who is President if necessary . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Gee, what president interfered with Israeli elections in 2016? https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/12/obama-admin-sent-taxpayer-money-oust-netanyahu/ The State Department paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxpayers grants to an Israeli group that used the money to build a campaign to oust Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in last year’s Israeli parliamentary elections, a congressional investigation concluded Tuesday. Some $350,000 was sent to OneVoice, ostensibly to support the group’s efforts to back Israeli-Palestinian peace settlement negotiations. But OneVoice used the money to build a voter database, train activists and hire a political consulting firm with ties to President Obama’s campaign — all of which set the stage for an anti-Netanyahu campaign, the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations said in a bipartisan staff report. Liberals don't care; they even applaud this. Many on the left despise Israel AND Jews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 3 hours ago, B-Man said: AOC: U.S. Must Provide Lifelong Mental Healthcare Services To Migrant Children Because Of Trauma We Have Caused AOC held a town hall event on immigration in Queens, NY on Saturday. The young Congresswoman believes the U.S. government must make a “lifelong commitment” to provide mental healthcare services to migrant children. The reason? Because of the lifelong trauma we inflict upon them when we separate them from their parents at the border. AOC told the crowd: . And this is the liberal mindset. People have zero accountability in their actions. Someone goes on a dangerous journey with their children. Along the way something bad happens. So now I'm somehow responsible?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 6 minutes ago, ALF said: Has any enemy of Israel been able to defeat them . They know the U.S. will step in no matter who is President if necessary . Did you read 3rdning's post at the end of the previous page? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: Liberals don't care; they even applaud this. Many on the left despise Israel AND Jews. Obama wanted someone who he thought he could convince to make a deal with Hamas and the PA. In other words, throw Israel under the bus for his own legacy. On the one hand, the Obama administration was the most opaque administration in memory but also the most transparent. (You could see right through them). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, section122 said: The republicans would have won in 08 with McCain if they didn't have Palin as his running mate. As much as the DNC screwed the pooch in 16 the repubs did the same in 08. They tried to capitalize on the womens vote and grab Hillary supporters by adding Palin. They underestimated how dumb she was and I firmly believe she cost them the election. Just like the DNC underestimated how much people disliked Hillary. I'm a dem and wanted to vote McCain and still did even with Palin dragging him down. Who better to lead us out of an unwinnable war than a decorated war veteran? See what I did there? I was objective about both parties. Those Trump tweets were dumb. You don't have to defend everything he does just because you are Republican. He has done some good and he has done some bad. These tweets were a bad look from him and it is okay to admit it. I know it is politics but "go back to where you came from" to elected representatives let alone just regular people shouldn't be an acceptable way to talk to people. It is just so embarrassing to watch our President get into twitter beefs with people. Twitter beefs. A 73 year old man. Twitter beefs. There is so much wrong with this post it is difficult to know where to begin... When "dumb" Sarah Palin took on the Republican machine in Alaska and won, people were shocked. When "dumb" Sarah Palin took on big oil in Alaska and won, people were shocked. And when John McCain (who was pretty loathed by the conservative Republican base) asked her on people were shocked. So shocked, that it took the Obama campaign a whole 24 hours to get people up to Alaska to go through her garbage (seriously, her garbage) and compile a negative dossier to use against her. She gave McCain a nice bump in the polls after her red meat introduction speech. The polls were not horrible (although who knows what the internals said) until the financial meltdown in September. At the point, it was the Ds election. I've always felt horrible for her and her family that she accepted the nomination only to be dragged down by that louse McCain who wouldn't defend her aginst his own campaign staff or the MSM. And, when the Ds started filing bogus lawsuit after bogus lawsuit against her in an effort to lawfare her into bankruptcy (which thank goodness Alaska changed the law afterward), I really felt terrible for the whole family. Yes, I am still a Sarah Palin fan-girl. ? It is that ***** McCain I couldn't stand. @Deranged Rhino gave you a great little education in the whys and hows of the tweets. Edited July 23, 2019 by Buffalo_Gal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 14 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: Gee, what president interfered with Israeli elections in 2016? Maybe he'd understand your question more easily if you'd phrased it what American president colluded with an opposition party to overthrow a democratically elected prime minister? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 1 hour ago, section122 said: I think it only serves to increase divisiveness. Do an honest assessment of 2017-2018 on who is more divisive: Trump or the media. After months of making fun of Trump during the campaign, warning viewers "he might not accept the results of the election" and how divisive/evil that is -- what happened immediately upon Trump's victory? The same media/DNC&GOP Establishment pundits said the election was illegitimate. They used Russian collusion to make the case that not only did Trump cheat, but he did so to serve an honest to god dictator who wants to destroy this country. ... That's how the coverage began on Trump's presidency. Not just on CNN or MSNBC - but on CBS, ABC, NBC, NYT, WaPo, LA Times et al. Because it wasn't just the left leaning media who was against Trump's victory, it was the establishment which crosses both sides of the aisle. Since then, we've seen the media do everything in its power to divide the country while trying to claim Trump was the one doing the dividing. Reality says it's just not true: * We know now Trump/Russia was fake. This is beyond dispute now, and in fact there's more evidence to say the real collusion happened between Russia and the Clinton campaign. * We know now that there was a backdoor coup attempted by the DOJ, CIA, FBI, and Obama administration (again that's now fact, not speculation). * We know now that Trump has handled Putin more effectively and efficiently than the past three presidents combined - dispelling the belief he's compromised. So after two plus years of being lied to, made to think that Trump is wearing a Klan hood in the Oval Office while he does Vlad's bidding and secretly worships Hitler's ghost, we are expected to believe it's Trump who is the divisive one? It just doesn't hold up to honest scrutiny. What we're living through right now is an era of mass projection by the media and the left as they continue to wage a disinformation war on its own populace. Not because Trump is a threat to the people of the world or the country, but because he's a threat to them. The establishment in both DC and the media hubs in NYC/LA. That's what is at the root of "the resistance". It's not a righteous fight against Nazism, Racism, Homophobia, Xenophobia -- it's a fight for the establishment and its sacred cows. The same establishment that lied us into 19 years of endless war. The same establishment that's stripped back our civil liberties while expanding the surveillance state. The same establishment that profits from human trafficking, drug trafficking, and mass incarceration. The same establishment which poisoned our air, food, and water for decades while taking kickbacks designed to make them ignore the plight of everyday Americans. That's who the "resistance" is fighting for. It's who they've always been fighting for -- whether they realize it or not. Because the people of the country decided they didn't want the establishment candidate, the media decided that the entire election was illegitimate. And if you dared to disagree with that assessment in 2017-2018 you were called, by the same media and DNC/GOP talking heads: Putin supporters, Nazis, or racists. So, when people see Trump tweeting back and standing up for himself, they see a president doing what they can't: fighting back against the very real projection and divisiveness pushed by the media and DNC/GOP establishment. We're through the looking glass. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 16 minutes ago, Bill from NYC said: Liberals don't care; they even applaud this. Many on the left despise Israel AND Jews. Why didn't Israel's enemies attack them while Obama was President ? Has any administration cut off foreign aid and weapon sales to Israel ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Just now, ALF said: Why didn't Israel's enemies attack them while Obama was President ? Has any administration cut off foreign aid and weapon sales to Israel ? They did. And then Obama helped their cause by revealing Stuxnet -- weakening the US and Israel's ability to contain Iran. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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