Wayne Arnold Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 17 minutes ago, BillsFan1988 said: So i guess we have to pay a tax for that fake playoff team we had. Does anybody actually look at the 2017 Bills and think wow what a football team? The reality is Mcd has been outscored for 2 yrs now . He found a way to turn us into basically a expansion team. You must not have been around the previous 17 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 20 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: NHK, it is crazy when you think about it. I mean...let's wrap our heads around "worst offense in NFL history"...no-no, don't go looking anything up, it is the worst. congrats. How do you become, not bad, not terrible, but the worst that has ever exited?! Its abit of a complicated "process" 3 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: I’m not normally a “no one wants to come to Buffalo” kind of guy. At all. But honest to God - how could you possibly expect the Pegulas to convince any promising football coach with any other options at all to come here after firing their second HC they hired in four years just one season after snapping an 18 year playoff drought? Not to mention everything else - horrible roster, non-football factors, etc. Seriously. Gotta pay lotsa lotsa lotsa money!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 38 minutes ago, jrober38 said: I couldn't care less about making the playoffs. I care about having a GM, Coach and players who can win a Super Bowl, and right now there's nothing that suggests we have any of those things. Our coach loves to punt on 4th and short in opposition territory. He does it pretty much every opportunity he gets. That's all you need to know about Sean McDermott's philosophy to coaching. That's not something any of Bill Belicick, Andy Reid, Sean McVay or Sean Payton do. Did you really think this team was going to win the SB this year? And do you really think this team could get there in Beane/McDermott's second year on the job. First really for Beane since he was hired after last year's draft. If so, it's no wonder that you're disappointed. I know patience is in short supply on this site, but c'mon man. This team had way too many holes to compete for a championship. I know it's frustrating to lose, but this team is nowhere near good enough to compete for a championshop regardless of who the coach and GM are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mabden Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 34 minutes ago, wppete said: This season has been depressing. Possible the worst I have ever seen. Anyone remember a season that has been worse recently? 84' and 85' seasons. 85' was a great draft year though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Just now, xsoldier54 said: Did you really think this team was going to win the SB this year? And do you really think this team could get there in Beane/McDermott's second year on the job. First really for Beane since he was hired after last year's draft. If so, it's no wonder that you're disappointed. I know patience is in short supply on this site, but c'mon man. This team had way too many holes to compete for a championship. I know it's frustrating to lose, but this team is nowhere near good enough to compete for a championshop regardless of who the coach and GM are. The team isn't competitive because the GM and HC have made the team non competitive. We have the worst offense in the history of the NFL adjusting for era. This has been a colossal failure and there's nothing that suggests these guys are going to get this team going in the right direction anytime soon. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 1 minute ago, wppete said: Sorry but you are wrong here. No he’s not. 2 minutes ago, CodeMonkey said: They went 9-7 last year ... somehow. Don't make it a huge head coaching accomplishment. Look back, several times the Bills were 9-7 during the drought. He largely inherited that team. This is a team that he helped create. Way too early to tar a feather him, but please stop with the making the playoffs at 9-7 is a great accomplishment talk. They went 9-7 twice during the drought. In 2004 (legit) and 2014 thanks to Belichick benching Brady and his starters in the last game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 There nothing shocking about these numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 7 minutes ago, GimmeSomeProcess said: Because the process=tank, how haven’t everyone realized this If this was true they wouldn't have been trying to win in 2017. This is not a tank. These guys didn't go into this season thinking they'd be looking at 12 or more losses this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 They deserve all the jeers that come their way, just as they deserved last years kudos. Most teams don’t achieve a playoff berth then proceed to make the team exponentially worse. They are so horrible on one side of the ball that they cannot compete with the average team in the league. They inherited something to build on, but decided to toss it away. Amazing that just a few seasons ago the team seemed aboyt a QB away from being good. Now, if their chosen QB is good, he might have some players around him on offense in about 2 or 3 more seasons. If Beane and co. nail the draft and free agency, that is. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 8 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: I’m not normally a “no one wants to come to Buffalo” kind of guy. At all. But honest to God - how could you possibly expect the Pegulas to convince any promising football coach with any other options at all to come here after firing their second HC they hired in four years just one season after snapping an 18 year playoff drought? Not to mention everything else - horrible roster, non-football factors, etc. Seriously. Don't we have a bunch of cap space and 10 draft picks? How are McDermott and Beane going to convince any free agents to want to come here? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 1 hour ago, jrober38 said: I don't understand how a HC can survive presiding over the worst offense in NFL history. ownership has decided on a ground zero honest rebuild i applaud this but it's going to be causing a lot of suffering the next 3 years nothing i can't handle after 45 years with this team 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Just now, jrober38 said: The team isn't competitive because the GM and HC have made the team non competitive. We have the worst offense in the history of the NFL adjusting for era. This has been a colossal failure and there's nothing that suggests these guys are going to get this team going in the right direction anytime soon. BS. This team was not competitive way before Beane or McDermott were hired. They are building a team and that takes time. This team has had so many losing seasons over the past few years, losing games this year means absolutely nothing. They still have lots of draft picks this coming off season and I'm sure the offense will be addressed. The D already is pretty good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, xsoldier54 said: Did you really think this team was going to win the SB this year? And do you really think this team could get there in Beane/McDermott's second year on the job. First really for Beane since he was hired after last year's draft. If so, it's no wonder that you're disappointed. I know patience is in short supply on this site, but c'mon man. This team had way too many holes to compete for a championship. I know it's frustrating to lose, but this team is nowhere near good enough to compete for a championshop regardless of who the coach and GM are. Yet they were a QB and maybe a WR away from a divisional round playoff game just last season. Way to go, McBeane. Bravo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Just now, xsoldier54 said: BS. This team was not competitive way before Beane or McDermott were hired. They are building a team and that takes time. This team has had so many losing seasons over the past few years, losing games this year means absolutely nothing. They still have lots of draft picks this coming off season and I'm sure the offense will be addressed. The D already is pretty good. You obviously have a different definition of non competitive than I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 43 minutes ago, jrober38 said: I couldn't care less about making the playoffs. I care about having a GM, Coach and players who can win a Super Bowl, and right now there's nothing that suggests we have any of those things. Our coach loves to punt on 4th and short in opposition territory. He does it pretty much every opportunity he gets. That's all you need to know about Sean McDermott's philosophy to coaching. That's not something any of Bill Belicick, Andy Reid, Sean McVay or Sean Payton do. It's pretty simple. He trusts the defense much more that he trusts the offense. Do you blame him? He figures far more often that not, this offense will fail on 4th and anything. Whereas giving the opposing offense a long field instead of a short one helps his D, which has a chance to get the stop. It's actually logical, not a fan "go for it, what the *****' emotional response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Can’t wait til the offseason and for Pegulas to state that McBeane will return next season. This place is so toxic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 10 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: Yet they were a QB and maybe a WR away from a divisional round playoff game just last season. Way to go, McBeane. Bravo! you are all hepped up on any kind of playoff, not worth it i want a building of an honest contender and that's what is going to happen now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Just now, Boatdrinks said: Yet they were a QB and maybe a WR away from a divisional round playoff game just last season. Way to go, McBeane. Bravo! Did they win that playoff game? Must have missed it. And they were way more than one WR and a QB away from competing for a SB, but since you're the one that brought it up, one has already been addressed and I expect WR will be as well. Having said that, with this OL, it wouldn't matter much who is playing those two positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 Just now, CodeMonkey said: It's pretty simple. He trusts the defense much more that he trusts the offense. Do you blame him? He figures far more often that not, this offense will fail on 4th and anything. Whereas giving the opposing offense a long field instead of a short one helps his D, which has a chance to get the stop. It's actually logical, not a fan "go for it, what the *****' emotional response. Last year the line was good and we had LeSean McCoy and McDermott still opted to punt on 4th and short in opposition territory 90% of the time. What you're saying isn't in touch with what this coach has demonstrated numerous times over the past 26 games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 6, 2018 Share Posted November 6, 2018 1 minute ago, jrober38 said: You obviously have a different definition of non competitive than I do. You’ve quickly become the worst, most shortsighted poster on the board. Just terrible 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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