oldmanfan Posted September 1, 2018 Author Share Posted September 1, 2018 Just now, Ittakestime said: Only the ones with high potential take time. Time is too valuable to waste on bums. Can't wait for the Bills to pass on a top QB next year because Allen is here. Meanwhile Allen will be trash and we had the chance to draft a top guy. Get over yourself. You are not Nostradamus. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ittakestime Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Just now, downunderbill said: You have one season to rebuild a franchise now otherwise it's a failure. The franchise didn't need rebuilding in player department. It needed coaching, which we got with McDermott. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 20 minutes ago, Ittakestime said: In most football minds out there, he has built the worst roster in the NFL. The playoffs last year was largely on Whaley's moves. The guy wasted way too many picks on a QB that just doesn't have the football IQ and then traded even more to draft a LB. And this is the kind of utter dumb!@#$ery that makes me question whether or not the Bills have anything remotely resembling an intelligent fanbase. 1 minute ago, Ittakestime said: The franchise didn't need rebuilding in player department. It needed coaching, which we got with McDermott. Shock. Wrong again. WAY too many overpriced and undertalented people on the roster. Not to mention AGING. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 That's right. If you criticize you must hate. Now fall in line and toe the company line. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 We should all be good little obedient boys and love everything the team does or else your fanhood gets questioned! Didn't somebody say something about fascists earlier? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 13 minutes ago, LABillzFan said: Seems we have this discussion every year. It's not that they hate the Bills. It's that they love saying "I told you so." Their vehicle is to predict failure, the single easiest thing to predict in the NFL. They then cheer for the failure so they can walk around saying "I told you that was a bid pick! I told you we should have fill-in-the-blank-with-something-another-team-did-successfully-that-is-completely-irrelevant-to-what-the-Bills-did." And then when you call them out on the complete laziness of their position, they call you a fascist. Well said. For some you wonder which matters more ; enjoying football games or being able to say “ I was right “ ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danc Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 20 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: I love discussion but some of what I see is not that I've watched them since opening day 1960. Believe me, there have been far worse times. From one old man fan to another I have to agree with Drdawkins that a lot of Bills fans like complaining better than winning. Think back to the 90's when the bills were the best in their history. Remember 'the bickering Bills'? There was some contention but the media and the fans made that out to be worse than it was. There were fans that complained Kelly couldn't win enough, so-and-so player(s) and coaches sucked, play calling was bad et cetera et cetera. I agree that some complains are well deserved but a lot are over the top. You just have to expect negativity on this message board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 1, 2018 Author Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Elite Poster said: We should all be good little obedient boys and love everything the team does or else your fanhood gets questioned! Didn't somebody say something about fascists earlier? There is a difference between legitimate debate and critique and mindless drivel 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 16 minutes ago, Ittakestime said: Like I said above, I don't think it can be taught so "developing" will do nothing in him reading a defense at LOS, quick audibles, sensing pressure, staying calm in the face of a blitz, etc. What Darnold at LOS and you will see the god given ability. Processing information in milli secs is a god given talent. What players do we have under 24 that have huge talents? White and maybe Edmunds? Edmunds to me is also a huge question make and I said the same thing at draft. His play at VT would not scream MLB. I don't think he should be playing that position. We had a huge cupboard of all these picks, and we came out with very little. So frustrating. Allen has shown good instincts in his preseason play. He’s had mistakes too, they all will. We all have our fave college players, but most times the stars don’t align and they end up in other NFL cities. The Bills are just one team of 32 , after all. Good news is, all is not lost. NY Jets merch is readily available and you can get tv packages that will allow you to watch Darnold in all his glory every Sunday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 hour ago, oldmanfan said: So this morning there's all this talk about how the GM is horrible because he didn't trade for Mack, how we'll stink this year, about how a rookie WB who has yet to play an actual game is a bust. And on and on. So my simple question is whay are you here if you hate this team so much? Do you take some kind of weird pleasure in trying to bring others down? Is it some kind of bizarre self-defense mechanism? What? Same kind of talk this time last year, and they made the playoffs. Those who hate the Bills are better tolerated than those who boost the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downunderbill Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: There is a difference between legitimate debate and critique and mindless drivel The days of legitimate debate on any form of social media is already dead. There is no objective thought anymore and there can be only one side to a story, if you don't agree insults are inbound. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 1, 2018 Author Share Posted September 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, downunderbill said: The days of legitimate debate on any form of social media is already dead. There is no objective thought anymore and there can be only one side to a story, if you don't agree insults are inbound. Ironic you say this at the same time the country celebrates John McCain 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 hour ago, oldmanfan said: So this morning there's all this talk about how the GM is horrible because he didn't trade for Mack, how we'll stink this year, about how a rookie WB who has yet to play an actual game is a bust. And on and on. So my simple question is whay are you here if you hate this team so much? Do you take some kind of weird pleasure in trying to bring others down? Is it some kind of bizarre self-defense mechanism? What? Same kind of talk this time last year, and they made the playoffs. Stupid post. GM isn't the team. Coach isn't the team. An individual player isn't the team. Losing sucks. Winning is fun. People complain about performances by employees of the team that the believe will cause the team to lose, or in fact actually caused the team to lose (ie 5 picks in a half ) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downunderbill Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Ironic you say this at the same time the country celebrates John McCain Wouldn't know what the irony in that is, I'm not American and don't follow American politics. All I know about John McCain is that he's some politician with remarkably white hair. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 1, 2018 Author Share Posted September 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, PlayoffsPlease said: Stupid post. GM isn't the team. Coach isn't the team. An individual player isn't the team. Losing sucks. Winning is fun. People complain about performances by employees of the team that the believe will cause the team to lose, or in fact actually caused the team to lose (ie 5 picks in a half ) No. Complaining about actual performances is one thing. I for example think Ducasse should go. Complaining about things that haven't even happened because you assume they'll be bad is different. Such as those already saying Allen will be a bust. That is being negative just to be negative. 2 minutes ago, downunderbill said: Wouldn't know what the irony in that is, I'm not American and don't follow American politics. All I know about John McCain is that he's some politician with remarkably white hair. McCain enjoyed actual debate. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 minute ago, oldmanfan said: No. Complaining about actual performances is one thing. I for example think Ducasse should go. Complaining about things that haven't even happened because you assume they'll be bad is different. Such as those already saying Allen will be a bust. That is being negative just to be negative. What can I say. You are wrong. I stand by my statement. The original post is stupid. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Clause Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Elite Poster said: We should all be good little obedient boys and love everything the team does or else your fanhood gets questioned! Didn't somebody say something about fascists earlier? Nobody says you have to agree lockstep with the ownership and management, but when your takes are hot garbage, (Not yours in particular) don’t expect the board to blow sunshine up your butt or be angry when it doesn’t happen and double down on your stupidity... Edited September 1, 2018 by Fred Clause Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 1, 2018 Author Share Posted September 1, 2018 Just now, PlayoffsPlease said: What can I say. You are wrong. I stand by my statement. The original post is stupid. What can I say. I obviously disagree 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 1 minute ago, oldmanfan said: What can I say. I obviously disagree Riddle me this. What part of you calling out other peoples fanhood makes you a good fan of the team? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Just part of life. Been a fan since they started. I hated; school and past jobs too, but that didn't stop me from being there, and always hoping for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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