John Brennan's Security Clearance

[Koko78]

10 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

As for 3, I will say again the president today with his WSJ article linked the pulling of his security clearance to the Russian investigation. So before accusing others of being stupid etc.  check your facts.

 

That comment is not mutually exclusive with the official statement. Brennan, as was outlined by both the official statement, and at length by @Deranged Rhino, took part in the lies that started the entire "collusion" fiasco. Simply adding more of Brennan's sins to the official statement does not change that.

 

So yes, it's pretty !@#$ing stupid.

8 minutes ago, LaDexter said:

where did the missing 1600F come from????

 

[row_33]

10 minutes ago, joesixpack said:

 

 

Settle down, pappy. Don't want the pacemaker getting overloaded.

 

 

pa needs a nap

 

 

[DC Tom]

5 minutes ago, donbb said:

 

Who dragged this clown back into the circus?

 

Honestly...no one.  I think the one thing the board can agree on completely is that this sock puppet needs to be banned.

[LaDexter]

Just now, DC Tom said:

I think the one thing the board can agree on completely is that this sock puppet needs to be banned.

 

 

 

Face it, DC Tom exists to shout down and silence those noticing too much truth about ISRAEL and ZIONISM....

 

AS "Moses" came down the mountain, he "looked different," and DC Tom slaughtered anyone who thought it might not be the actual MOSES....

 

911 and the origin of Judaism are one and the same = fraud followed by chosen slaughter of those noticing the fraud....

[DC Tom]

Just now, LaDexter said:

 

 

 

Face it, DC Tom exists to shout down and silence those noticing too much truth about ISRAEL and ZIONISM....

 

AS "Moses" came down the mountain, he "looked different," and DC Tom slaughtered anyone who thought it might not be the actual MOSES....

 

911 and the origin of Judaism are one and the same = fraud followed by chosen slaughter of those noticing the fraud....

 

But was Moses even on the mountain?  How come there's no pictures of Moses on Mt. Sinai?  Must be a CIA plant!  WAKE UP SHEEPLE!

 

Your biggest problem right now is that you've ceased being an amusing little spud.  You've become boring.  Blame that on the Israelis.

[LaDexter]

WHY did Moses "look different?"

 

LMFAO!!!

 

and then WHY was it "necessary" for your tribe to slaughter 3500 Midianites who noticed it wasn't the same guy....

[3rdnlng]

4 minutes ago, LaDexter said:

WHY did Moses "look different?"

 

LMFAO!!!

 

and then WHY was it "necessary" for your tribe to slaughter 3500 Midianites who noticed it wasn't the same guy....

You are crusading and posting the same insaneshit in numerous different threads. It's getting boring and making PPP a lesser forum.

 

[LaDexter]

2 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said:

You are crusading and posting the same insaneshit in numerous different threads. It's getting boring and making PPP a lesser forum.

 

 

Global Warming, 911, and the Bible are three different topics.  Just cutting and pasting the same lie over and over makes you look pretty stupid...

[IDBillzFan]

15 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

Honestly...no one.  I think the one thing the board can agree on completely is that this sock puppet needs to be banned.

 

He'll just come back with a different name. If everyone would just ignore him...

[donbb]

Just now, LABillzFan said:

 

He'll just come back with a different name. If everyone would just ignore him...

 

How do you ignore a user?

[LaDexter]

Just now, donbb said:

How do you ignore a user?

 

 

You can join DC Tom and associated parrots of fraud and bull **** by putting a white sheet over your face....

[IDBillzFan]

3 minutes ago, donbb said:

 

How do you ignore a user?

 

Put your mouse over the user name in one of his posts. A screen will pop up, and on the bottom will be the option to "Ignore user." 

 

After you click that, you still need to save that preference. Then presto...you get a bunch of this whenever he posts...

 

You've chosen to ignore content by LaDexter.

Edited August 16, 2018 by LABillzFan

[donbb]

Just now, LaDexter said:

 

 

You can join DC Tom and associated parrots of fraud and bull **** by putting a white sheet over your face....

 

[LaDexter]

Go on and have some fun with an Israeli Deputy Mayor

 

 

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/05/28/bible.burning/index.html

 

 

"News accounts in Israel have quoted Uzi Aharon, the deputy mayor of Or-Yehuda, as saying he organized students who burned several hundred copies of the New Testament. The deputy mayor gave interviews to Israeli radio and television stations after word of the incident surfaced about two weeks ago."

 

 

 

 

and then Uzi got re-elected.... what leadership!!!

 

[DC Tom]

7 minutes ago, LABillzFan said:

 

He'll just come back with a different name. If everyone would just ignore him...

 

I really wouldn't mind as much if he just kept to his own thread.  I think that's fair enough.

 

But...Moses conspiracy theories in a John Brennan thread? 

[Deranged Rhino]

1 hour ago, oldmanfan said:

 

But as far as the Russian investigation goes, doesn't matter to me one iota whether it was Democrats or Republicans, whoever is responsible needs to pay, and that's what Mueller needs to find out.   

 

Why are you so eager to outsource your own responsibilities to Mueller? If you truly care about finding "whoever is responsible", shouldn't that journey start by doing some of the work yourself? The only reason I keep harping on you is because you've shown the ability to think for yourself and to be unbiased - yet when you stray from your areas of expertise you fall back on the talking points being pushed largely by those who do value truth or evidence. 

 

There's more than enough information available in open source - in the form of primary documents, testimony, and statements - to not only thoroughly debunk the concept of "Trump/Russia collusion/conspiracy", but to make a strong case the actual political spying/conspiracy/collusion with foreign intelligence agencies happened between the Obama White House, the Clinton Campaign, and a complicit circle of high ranking officials inside the DOJ/FBI/CIA/DNI. 

 

Isn't that an even more alarming threat to the republic? The notion that our own intelligence agencies, in collusion with the sitting president and with an assist from paid media assets, weaponized an illegal/improper investigation against a US citizen (then sitting President) in an attempt to overturn an election? If we let that stand, what do we have left to defend? 

 

 

1 hour ago, row_33 said:

 

i don't really want to see a complete public unraveling of Brennan and his colleagues if it isn't crucial to the existence of the USA.

 

this doesn't work out well for anyone

 

Which is why I put it a little more than 50/50 that Brennan is not allowed to stand trial. I can see him being disappeared, I can also see him being indicted then committing Langley assisted "suicide" before he ever sets foot in a courtroom. 

 

 

[3rdnlng]

23 minutes ago, LaDexter said:

 

 

Global Warming, 911, and the Bible are three different topics.  Just cutting and pasting the same lie over and over makes you look pretty stupid...

This is a thread about John Brennan getting his security clearance taken away. Keep yourshit out of this and every other thread where it doesn't belong.

[4merper4mer]

16 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

I really wouldn't mind as much if he just kept to his own thread.  I think that's fair enough.

 

But...Moses conspiracy theories in a John Brennan thread? 

Brennan provided a safe haven for these treacherous acts to be performed.  It is being reported on the site of a football team who once had a receiver named Haven.  

 

What was that receiver's last name?

 

Coincidence?

[LaDexter]

Truth is "****" only to those who don't like the truth....

[TakeYouToTasker]

1 hour ago, oldmanfan said:

And you're a child.  The Executive branch does not have unfettered power to do whatever it wants whenever it wants.  What is it about the constitution and checks and balances that you don't understand?

 

He has the right to get rid of Brennan for cause.  I would have for him lying about the CIA spying on members of Congress.  But he sad today he did so because he helped start an investigation into his own administration's role with the Russia thing.  That then becomes an issue for the Legislative and/or Judicial branches to take on.

 

Did none of you live through Watergate?

Yes they do.  It is called checks and balances.  Honestly, read the Constitution.  Executive power does not mean you can flagrantly abuse that power.

 

He didn't get rid of Brennan. 

 

Brennan is a former CIA director who still enjoyed his security clearance, post federal employment, who now works as a talking head for CNN.

 

Brennan is also a criminal, will get his comeuppance, and had no business holding a clearance, and using it for what he was (the persistence of a palace coup against a duly elected President)[/I].  Full stop.

 

Further, had he fired Brennan (which he didn't because Brennan never worked for him), he would have been fully justified within the scope of his Constitutionally prescribed powers.

 

Members of the Executive branch serve at the pleasure of the President.  Again, full stop,

 

Congress has no Constitutional authority in the matter.  None.  Zip.  Zilch.

 

If you disagree, please source the provision in the Constitution which grants Congress oversight over either or both the retention of the head of the CIA and who is permitted to keep security clearances.

 

 

 

 

[LaDexter]

former CIA Director 

currently a CNN talking head

 

and

 

a criminal

 

??????????????????????

 

and when we ask WHAT EVIDENCE is there that Russia "meddled," we get this response

 

TRUST "OUR" INTEL....

 

Sorry....

[oldmanfan]

2 minutes ago, TakeYouToTasker said:

 

He didn't get rid of Brennan. 

 

Brennan is a former CIA director who still enjoyed his security clearance, post federal employment, who now works as a talking head for CNN.

 

Brennan is also a criminal, will get his comeuppance, and had no business holding a clearance, and using it for what he was (the persistence of a palace coup against a duly elected President)[/I].  Full stop.

 

Further, had he fired Brennan (which he didn't because Brennan never worked for him), he would have been fully justified within the scope of his Constitutionally prescribed powers.

 

Members of the Executive branch serve at the pleasure of the President.  Again, full stop,

 

Congress has no Constitutional authority in the matter.  None.  Zip.  Zilch.

 

If you disagree, please source the provision in the Constitution which grants Congress oversight over either or both the retention of the head of the CIA and who is permitted to keep security clearances.

 

 

 

 

That's easy.  Congress has the power to impeach if they feel the executive abuses his power.

 

If he removed him based on the statement put out by the White House, fine.  But as happens far too often his own words with the WSJ belie that.  

 

As for you Rhino, the reason I want this handled by Mueller is because we have a special prosecutor who has been given the mandate to find out how a foreign enemy managed to influence our democracy.  I tryst him to do so.  I have looked at some of the deep state stuff.  I'm not impressed.  I find it to be confirmation bias; things are picked over here and there and conflated to try and buttress a preconceived notion.  I have much more faith in a man who served his country in uniform with distinction, and who then protected this country from foreign attack for years as head of the FBI, to find the truth.  Everyone in government had the highest regard for the guy until it interfered with their politics then all of a sudden he's crooked?  Not a chance.  I know you don't agree , and we'll simply have to do so.

[LaDexter]

2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

to find out how a foreign enemy managed to influence our democracy

 

 

1. nobody can prove that Russia hacked Podesta

2. the hacks of Podesta proved there was a plot to influence the election - CNN cheated and gave the debate questions to Hillary before the debate

3. the unproven accusations about Russia are still peanuts compared to Algore going to a Buddhist Temple and raising CHINESE MONEY for the Clinton campaign

 

 

Any way you slice it, those who are supporting Mueller have no truth and total hypocrisy. 

[outsidethebox]

2 hours ago, oldmanfan said:

Your paranoid rantings about the deep state aside, the proper place to voice such objections is with Congress so they can carry out their constitutionally prescribed duty to be a check and balance against the Executive branch.

The president himself said he did this because of the Russia investigation.  So don't tell me it's entirely due to anything else but the president being paranoid about an investigation into the potential involvement of his campaign.

 

What the president has yet to figure out is that people pay attention to what he says and then hold him accountable for such.

It's too bad you don't hold anyone else accountable. Keep sticking your head in the sand. When it comes to the Democratic party, ignorance is bliss.

[4merper4mer]

5 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

That's easy.  Congress has the power to impeach if they feel the executive abuses his power.

 

If he removed him based on the statement put out by the White House, fine.  But as happens far too often his own words with the WSJ belie that.  

 

As for you Rhino, the reason I want this handled by Mueller is because we have a special prosecutor who has been given the mandate to find out how a foreign enemy managed to influence our democracy.  I tryst him to do so.  I have looked at some of the deep state stuff.  I'm not impressed.  I find it to be confirmation bias; things are picked over here and there and conflated to try and buttress a preconceived notion.  I have much more faith in a man who served his country in uniform with distinction, and who then protected this country from foreign attack for years as head of the FBI, to find the truth.  Everyone in government had the highest regard for the guy until it interfered with their politics then all of a sudden he's crooked?  Not a chance.  I know you don't agree , and we'll simply have to do so.

If you trust Mueller there is a problem.

[LaDexter]

Just now, 4merper4mer said:

If you trust Mueller there is a problem.

 

 

You sound like a 911 Truther.

 

Bravo.

[4merper4mer]

1 minute ago, LaDexter said:

 

 

1. nobody can prove that Russia hacked Podesta

2. the hacks of Podesta proved there was a plot to influence the election - CNN cheated and gave the debate questions to Hillary before the debate

3. the unproven accusations about Russia are still peanuts compared to Algore going to a Buddhist Temple and raising CHINESE MONEY for the Clinton campaign

 

 

Any way you slice it, those who are supporting Mueller have no truth and total hypocrisy. 

Also, Buddhist temple rhymes with Juddhist temple.  Coincidence?

[3rdnlng]

1 minute ago, oldmanfan said:

That's easy.  Congress has the power to impeach if they feel the executive abuses his power.

 

If he removed him based on the statement put out by the White House, fine.  But as happens far too often his own words with the WSJ belie that.  

 

As for you Rhino, the reason I want this handled by Mueller is because we have a special prosecutor who has been given the mandate to find out how a foreign enemy managed to influence our democracy.  I tryst him to do so.  I have looked at some of the deep state stuff.  I'm not impressed.  I find it to be confirmation bias; things are picked over here and there and conflated to try and buttress a preconceived notion.  I have much more faith in a man who served his country in uniform with distinction, and who then protected this country from foreign attack for years as head of the FBI, to find the truth.  Everyone in government had the highest regard for the guy until it interfered with their politics then all of a sudden he's crooked?  Not a chance.  I know you don't agree , and we'll simply have to do so.

Keep your trysts out of this thread! Seriously, there's no doubt that Brennan did some crooked things and was at the heart of the Dossier that was used for the FISA warrant that allowed the IC to spy on the Trump campaign.

[4merper4mer]

1 minute ago, LaDexter said:

 

 

You sound like a 911 Truther.

 

Bravo.

I think there is a fall opening at the Derek Zoolander Center for Kids Who Can't Read Good.  You may want to look into it.

[LaDexter]

1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said:

there's no doubt that Brennan did some crooked things

 

 

LMFAO!!!!

 

You conspiracy WHACKO!!!!!!

 

KEEP your BS conspiracy stuff out of my topic!!!!

Just now, 4merper4mer said:

Kids Who Can't Read Good.

 

 

and then there is the place for posters who can't use the English language WELL....

 

 

 

[TakeYouToTasker]

9 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

That's easy.  Congress has the power to impeach if they feel the executive abuses his power.

 

If he removed him based on the statement put out by the White House, fine.  But as happens far too often his own words with the WSJ belie that.  

 

As for you Rhino, the reason I want this handled by Mueller is because we have a special prosecutor who has been given the mandate to find out how a foreign enemy managed to influence our democracy.  I tryst him to do so.  I have looked at some of the deep state stuff.  I'm not impressed.  I find it to be confirmation bias; things are picked over here and there and conflated to try and buttress a preconceived notion.  I have much more faith in a man who served his country in uniform with distinction, and who then protected this country from foreign attack for years as head of the FBI, to find the truth.  Everyone in government had the highest regard for the guy until it interfered with their politics then all of a sudden he's crooked?  Not a chance.  I know you don't agree , and we'll simply have to do so.

 

If you don't believe the deep state argument to be compelling, then you haven't read it.

 

Greg's (DR) research, posted here and fully sourced with primary documents, has led to one of the most compelling arguments I've ever read anywhere.

 

If you've read "some of the deep state stuff", then you haven't read Greg's fully sourced timeline, and really need to .

 

If you do that, and dismiss it, fine.

 

But you've dismissed it before reading it.

 

Don't do that.

[outsidethebox]

3 hours ago, oldmanfan said:

A security issue could be issued essentially immediately if a guy has had prior top level clearance.  Certainly that could be written into law.

 

I would prefer Brennan not be as vocal as he has been, but he is I think genuinely concerned about what is going on.  Those concerns would be best expressed to members of Congress in my opinion, but he has a right to speaking as we all do. 

 

Do you not see what problems it might cause when a president deliberately takes security clearance  away from people because he has a personal vendetta, or because he is upset about an investigation that involves his own administration?  Imagine if Nixon had had that unfettered power during Watergate.  He tried to use it on the Saturday night massacre, and luckily the legislative and judicial branches did their jobs.

He's only concerned about saving his ass. You're hatred of President Trump is blinding you from seeing what is actually happening. I call it wilful ignorance. You refuse to see what everyone else can see.

3 hours ago, oldmanfan said:

A security issue could be issued essentially immediately if a guy has had prior top level clearance.  Certainly that could be written into law.

 

I would prefer Brennan not be as vocal as he has been, but he is I think genuinely concerned about what is going on.  Those concerns would be best expressed to members of Congress in my opinion, but he has a right to speaking as we all do. 

 

Do you not see what problems it might cause when a president deliberately takes security clearance  away from people because he has a personal vendetta, or because he is upset about an investigation that involves his own administration?  Imagine if Nixon had had that unfettered power during Watergate.  He tried to use it on the Saturday night massacre, and luckily the legislative and judicial branches did their jobs.

He's only concerned about saving his ass. You're hatred of President Trump is blinding you from seeing what is actually happening. I call it wilful ignorance. You refuse to see what everyone else can see.

[LaDexter]

Like it or not, 911 has entered the Brennan debate....

 

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/16/politics/mcraven-trump-brennan-security-clearance-revoke/index.html

 

"Retired Adm. William McRaven, the man who oversaw the 2011 Navy SEAL raid that killed Osama bin Laden, issued a stunning rebuke of President Donald Trump's decision to revoke the security clearance of former CIA Director John Brennan on Thursday, defending the former spy chief as "one of the finest public servants I have ever known."

 

 

 

Of course, the "finest public servant" he ever knew was... Col Ossman.

 

Honestly, is anyone still fooled by that plastic head they dumped in the ocean??

 

Bottom line - Brennan's "supporters" are 911 Traitors, all of 'em...

and then Seal Team 6 got the same fate as those who noticed too much at the base of Mt Sinai 3300 years ago....

 

https://www.quora.com/How-many-members-of-the-Navy-SEAL-team-that-killed-Osama-Bin-Laden-are-still-alive

 

 

Seal Team 6 all dead.

 

Col Ossman alive and well living it up on the WEST BANK.

[DC Tom]

2 hours ago, oldmanfan said:

And you're a child.  The Executive branch does not have unfettered power to do whatever it wants whenever it wants. 

 

 

 

Not unfettered.  It needs a phone and a pen.

[row_33]

20 minutes ago, DC Tom said:

 

Not unfettered.  It needs a phone and a pen.

 

As well, the Exec has to decide to act on a thought and execute that thought.

 

I hope oldmanfart isn't confusing "doing anything you damn please" with "ability to freely carry out executive orders at will"

 

 

 

 

[TakeYouToTasker]

21 minutes ago, LaDexter said:

Like it or not, 911 has entered the Brennan debate....

 

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/16/politics/mcraven-trump-brennan-security-clearance-revoke/index.html

 

"Retired Adm. William McRaven, the man who oversaw the 2011 Navy SEAL raid that killed Osama bin Laden, issued a stunning rebuke of President Donald Trump's decision to revoke the security clearance of former CIA Director John Brennan on Thursday, defending the former spy chief as "one of the finest public servants I have ever known."

 

 

 

Of course, the "finest public servant" he ever knew was... Col Ossman.

 

Honestly, is anyone still fooled by that plastic head they dumped in the ocean??

 

Bottom line - Brennan's "supporters" are 911 Traitors, all of 'em...

and then Seal Team 6 got the same fate as those who noticed too much at the base of Mt Sinai 3300 years ago....

 

https://www.quora.com/How-many-members-of-the-Navy-SEAL-team-that-killed-Osama-Bin-Laden-are-still-alive

 

 

Seal Team 6 all dead.

 

Col Ossman alive and well living it up on the WEST BANK.

 

I'm conflicted here...

 

DC Tom doesn't support Brennan...

 

Edited August 16, 2018 by TakeYouToTasker

[Tiberius]

2 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

Just because your enemy slides a knife through your 4th and 5th ribs while pretending to be about the greater good does not mean you should let him 

 

There is no need to run around like chicken little wondering about all the vast knowledge he might be able to provide, if needed, after he clocks out at the end of his day job.  If it's that crucial, we can always kick the rock back and ask him. 

What crap. He criticized Trump, that's all he did and the child erupted and had a hissy fit. 

[donbb]

47 minutes ago, westside said:

He's only concerned about saving his ass. You're hatred of President Trump is blinding you from seeing what is actually happening. I call it wilful ignorance. You refuse to see what everyone else can see.

He's only concerned about saving his ass. You're hatred of President Trump is blinding you from seeing what is actually happening. I call it wilful ignorance. You refuse to see what everyone else can see.

 

So unhinged you had to say it twice. Get laid or try some weed - it'll do you wonders.

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

25 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

What crap. He criticized Trump, that's all he did and the child erupted and had a hissy fit. 

 

Everyone has an opinion my man, and your seems to be "everything is fair game unless it's happening to my people". Interestingly brennan seems to share your opinion. 

 

When in doubt, I go to this: 

 

If the clearance can be revoked, and the president choose to revoke it, time to move along. 

 

Brennan is a cancer, and seems an awful lot like the guy who retires but can't stay away from the office. He's all about telling you how it should be, the way things should go, and how dumb everyone is but him. The only difference is that at one point, he had the ability to ruin lives as he saw fit. 

 

Trump simply told him it was time to go home.  He did him a favor. There's nothing more pathetic than an old man wandering around, muttering about the good old days when you could bust heads with impunity when the world has passed him by. 

 

 

Edited August 16, 2018 by leh-nerd skin-erd

[outsidethebox]

31 minutes ago, donbb said:

 

So unhinged you had to say it twice. Get laid or try some weed - it'll do you wonders.

Grow up and stop acting like a baby because hillary lost. You have serious TDS.