BuffaloHokie13 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: And yet we managed to achieve 9 wins and a playoff appearance last year while our defense only achieved 18 INTs, a bit more than 1 per game. Who knew? Look, no one is trying to argue that last year's offense was stellar - it was not. But let's not go over the top making claims as though it was the D always scoring points and enabling the offense. They weren't. We were top 12 in scoring 2 of the past 3 years for chrissake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fr. Jerk Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 3 hours ago, sistersarah said: Was watching Golic and Wingo this morning 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Tyrod runs for a lot of yards. He needs to be accounted for in production and defenses dedicate a safety/LB to containing him. Get ready to see one more man in the box who is free to attack the LOS. Yes, losing two pro bowl caliber OLinemen and our best run blocker and replacing them with nothing is a big issue. Color me terrified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Just now, joesixpack said: Color me terrified. Dismiss all the facts and blindly believe that anything is better than Tyrod. Can't get any worse amirite??!?!? AMIRIGHT?!?!? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elite Poster Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, SCBills said: The National Media has such a weird idea of what Tyrod Taylor is. One would think that after the Nationally Televised Playoff Game at Jacksonville, they would see what we’ve seen for years, but apparently not. AJ McCarron is basically a less mobile/better passing Tyrod Taylor aka “Game Manager”. I'm sorry but why is this such a recurring "fact" on this board? How is this true in any sense of the word? In 2015 when he started 4 games with AJ Green, Mohammad Sanu, Marvin Jones, AND Tyler Eifert (that blows the holy freaking doors off this group), he averaged 212 yards passing and 1.5 TDs per game. That is almost identical Tyrod with 9 extra yards WITHOUT any of the running. They also had one hell of an offensive line that year. Edited July 27, 2018 by Elite Poster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Just now, Jauronimo said: Dismiss all the facts and blindly believe that anything is better than Tyrod. Can't get any worse amirite??!?!? AMIRIGHT?!?!? From a passing perspective? No, it literally can't get any worse than Tyrod. You may have valid concerns in the run game. But you're taking an extreme stance that in no way shape or form that Wood's and Incognito's replacements can't at least play on an even level. You have no proof to back that opinion up, only FEELS. America. !@#$ yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxy312 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 3 hours ago, CLTbills said: We had the 31st ranked passing attack. I highly doubt we're going to "regress" at that position. They might not regress as far as passing production is concerned, but clearly have the potential to regress from the perspective of offensive turnovers. The Bills were 4th in the NFL in turnovers with only 16. I'm 100% with you that they're not going to be even more anemic moving the ball downfield. I'm glad that Captain Checkdown is wearing orange this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey152 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 (edited) 15 minutes ago, joesixpack said: From a passing perspective? No, it literally can't get any worse than Tyrod. You may have valid concerns in the run game. But you're taking an extreme stance that in no way shape or form that Wood's and Incognito's replacements can't at least play on an even level. You have no proof to back that opinion up, only FEELS. America. !@#$ yeah. Honestly, I feel like Incognito and Wood regressed quite a bit last season... Wood was abused routinely and Incognito was seemingly good for at least one holding penalty a game, which is a clear sign of losing a step at LG where you generally aren't blocking guys in front of you...he just wasn't getting to his spot fast enough. The Bills might miss their leadership, but their on-field play wasn't what it once was...whether it was old age or scheme? Not sure Edited July 27, 2018 by Mikey152 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 1 minute ago, joesixpack said: From a passing perspective? No, it literally can't get any worse than Tyrod. You may have valid concerns in the run game. But you're taking an extreme stance that in no way shape or form that Wood's and Incognito's replacements can't at least play on an even level. You have no proof to back that opinion up, only FEELS. America. !@#$ yeah. Extreme stance? I said the run game is not intact and supported my opinion with simple facts which seems to have upset you greatly (talk about feels). What evidence do you have that Ducasse and Bodine/Groy are capable of playing anywhere near "even" with Cog and Wood? If they are up to the task where have they been hiding all this ability and why? Your whole argument is "Can't get any worse???". Even the most casual of Buffalo sports followers should understand how wrong that sentiment is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Mikey152 said: Honestly, I feel like Incognito and Wood regressed quite a bit last season... Wood was abused routinely and Incognito was seemingly good for at least one holding penalty a game, which is a clear sign of losing a step at LG where you generally aren't blocking guys in front of you...he just wasn't getting to his spot fast enough. This. Wood/Incognito were likely gone after this season, IMO. Wood MAY have stuck around because of the two-year deal, but I doubt it. But to write off the OL after one (1) training camp practice seems a bit much to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 If the pundits are going to be consistent they should be hammering the Chiefs waaaaaay harder than the Bills. Smith is essentially Taylor 2.0 with much more of a track record in the league and was replaced by a guy in Mahomes who's got at least as many question marks as Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: What evidence do you have that Ducasse and Bodine/Groy are capable of playing anywhere near "even" with Cog and Wood? If they are up to the task where have they been hiding all this ability and why? Groy was inexplicably stuck on a depth chart. When Wood was out, what was it...two seasons ago...he performed VERY well at center. I contend he should have been starting at RG last year. I don't know enough about Bodine to formulate judgement...and if you're being honest, neither do you. Ducasse? Yeah, I'll give you he's sketchy, though he did improve through the course of last season. Aaaaand furthermore...the topic of this thread is "worst team in the AFCE." How anyone can come out and say the Jets or even the Dolphins will be better than Buffalo when BOTH those teams have some really glaring issues as bad if not worse than the Bills is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 3 hours ago, CLTbills said: We had the 31st ranked passing attack. I highly doubt we're going to "regress" at that position. And only 14yards ahead of no. 32. The bears.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 3 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said: I heard the three predict the Bills as being the worst in the AFC East, the the lady, Mines? said something to the effect Bills might not win a game and was talking about Allen sailing some easy passes, cleary see isnt a fan. Also said Allen of all the new QBs has the worst situation to try and succeed with bad OL, WRs, and TE. Also said the Pats had the easiest schedule last year and probability have the easiest schedule again this year. There is nothing easy in the NFL...The Pats deserve their wins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 1 hour ago, NewEra said: You’re putting words in my mouth. Where did I say we should’ve kept Tyrod? Anywhere, at any time. Never once have I said that. I wanted him gone and to get a great pick for him was even better. I was responding to someone saying that our passing attack likely won’t be worse than last year. I disagree. I think our passing attack will be worse than last year. I hope I’m wrong My bad, you're right. I didn't see that you were responding to another post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 2 hours ago, SCBills said: But why does AJ need to be Brady Jr or Allen, Big Ben? Like someone mentioned above, give us Josh McCown against Jax and we are winning that playoff game. Yea, no interceptions are cool and all, but scoring 10-13 points per game on offense and incessantly going 3 and out wasn’t exactly helping us either. A good point was made to ponder...if Josh mc cown had played that Jax. Game we probably would have won .... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 3 hours ago, eee1776 said: I watched the Jax playoff game again , and I counted 2 or 3 touchdown passes that Tyrod missed an open receiver. Thank god that nightmare is over Can’t wait to hear him cry about race when he loses his job with the browns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 7 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: Thank god that nightmare is over Can’t wait to hear him cry about race when he loses his job with the browns ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Joe Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 3 hours ago, eee1776 said: I watched the Jax playoff game again , and I counted 2 or 3 touchdown passes that Tyrod missed an open receiver. 2 hours ago, JerseyBills said: I rematched the Jax game , the play calling and Tyrod were in pre season form, just abysmal, Shady was the best player on the field and just a force.. based off addition by subtraction , there's a very good chance we improve on O. Hausch was a huge part of that too I saw the replay last week. The end of the game was tough listening to Romo. What was that again, Cover 4, COVER 4! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 12 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: ? ??♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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