Drunken Pygmy Goat Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 (edited) The only stat or ranking that matters is PPG. I This defense is very "bend, don't break" and opportunistic. They're going to give up yards, yet (hopefully) limit scores. They were very good at that for the first 6 or so games last year. Then the Jets, Saints, Chargers games happened...PPG and YPG rankings dropped considerably after those 3 games. I know we cannot "take away those games", but the final rankings would have been slightly better if those games weren't as ugly. I don't think its crazy to think that the Bills could finish near the top 10 or better, but part of those rankings will rely on the offense being able to sustain drives and stay on the field, and if there is some regression on that side of the ball (which can be expected), the defense may "look" like a top 10 unit, but the rankings won't reflect that. Edited June 5, 2018 by Drunken Pygmy Goat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted June 5, 2018 Author Share Posted June 5, 2018 10 minutes ago, Drunken Pygmy Goat said: The only stat or ranking that matters is PPG. I This defense is very "bend, don't break" and opportunistic. They're going to give up yards, yet (hopefully) limit scores. They were very good at that for the first 6 or so games last year. Then the Jets, Saints, Chargers games happened...PPG and YPG rankings dropped considerably after those 3 games. I know we cannot "take away those games", but the final rankings would have been slightly better if those games weren't as ugly. I don't think its crazy to think that the Bills could finish near the top 10 or better, but part of those rankings will rely on the offense being able to sustain drives and stay on the field, and if there is some regression on that side of the ball (which can be expected), the defense may "look" like a top 10 unit, but the rankings won't reflect that. This is something I referenced in the original post. If the offense struggles and the D is always on the field 35 mins with poor field position we could see a D statistically not much better play on the field. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted June 5, 2018 Share Posted June 5, 2018 It's too early to get into some type of hardcore debate over how good the D is going to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albillny Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 (edited) I am personally very interested in what Harrison Phillips can do. If he can do in the NFL what he did in college that will bring a ton of flexibility and/or rest for the rest of the D. Edited June 6, 2018 by Albillny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Also will depend on how much the offense can help the defense by not going 3 and out. A tired defense is not a good defense either. So it all will depend on a number of things. Hopefully everything will improve on every level, but I am excited to see how this D stacks up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 (edited) McDermott and Frazier proved they will get the most out of the defense with the talent they have. Having said that I believe there is plenty more talent on this D then last years. Baring injuries this D will be top 10. Edited June 6, 2018 by atlbillsfan1975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 I do agree the talent level has risen ! How it translates to the field this season ? not sure. Remain hopeful though. I do like the additions from V Davis to H.Phillips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 8 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: Please explain why- if he’s so great- Carolina allowed to walk. PS He’s not I guess Micah Hyde is terrible because Green Bay let him go? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 26 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I guess Micah Hyde is terrible because Green Bay let him go? Please don’t bring facts to this argument. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Linebacker could be a real concern, but I think that they can figure it out there esp if Edumonds stays healthy. But my biggest concern is the pass rush. There are no sure bets as to the Bills even having 1 player that can get to the QB. Hughes is coming off a bad season and is older, Shaq is coming off of an injury and hasn't light the world on fire, Murphy is coming off of a big injury, and Lorax is older and coming off a not so good season. Now all 4 players give you reasons as to why you think they will rebound but all 4 could be ineffective. If the Bills can get 2 good seasons out of those 4 players then I think it is off to the Races. Star and Phillips should be effective in the run game, the LB core should be competent enough, and the secondary is the strength of the defense. But if the Bills can't get the pass rush going it will just destroy the rest of the defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 40 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I guess Micah Hyde is terrible because Green Bay let him go? Yup, I hear this Poyer guy is no picnic either. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 40 minutes ago, aristocrat said: Please don’t bring facts to this argument. I’ve never understood that argument....”If he was so good, why did X team let him go?” That’s basically saying that you can’t ever say there is a good free agent signing because that would mean that player wasn’t re-signed by their last team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 9 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said: I’ve never understood that argument....”If he was so good, why did X team let him go?” That’s basically saying that you can’t ever say there is a good free agent signing because that would mean that player wasn’t re-signed by their last team. yea it's a strange way to think. if he's so good why did they trade him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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