PromoTheRobot Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 https://www.allaccess.com/net-news/archive/story/176746/senate-votes-to-override-fcc-s-net-neutrality-chan?ref=mail_bulletin 3 Republicans crossed over to get it done. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 (edited) Now it has to go to the House and then to the President for signing. Chances of it passing the house are slim. Chances of the President signing it into law if it passes the house are slimmer. Edited May 16, 2018 by JoeF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 17 hours ago, JoeF said: Now it has to go to the House and then to the President for signing. Chances of it passing the house are slim. Chances of the President signing it into law if it passes the house are slimmer. So once again, Congress is just gathering dust! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 11 minutes ago, Marv's Neighbor said: So once again, Congress is just gathering dust! Citizen feedback moved the Senate. My local house member is already on board but if I was passionate about the issue (which we should be) I would be writing my house member today...the letters to house members are around 10 to 1 in favor of keeping the rules in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Has it kicked in yet... The dismantling of rules? Would people have noticed? I ask that because... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Has it kicked in yet... The dismantling of rules? Would people have noticed? I ask that because... June 11th is the date... it's a valid question...Verizon, ATT, CenturyLink/Level3, Comcast, Charter, etc. have alluded to some commitment that they won't manage traffic any differently than they do today. However, I don't know whether I believe that if a provider has a competitive movie streaming service that they will treat Netflix packets the same as their own movie streaming packets. Will they upgrade routers and switches in SuperNaps that peer with Netflix?? They could also make NetFlix pay for priority access and then Netflix passes this along to subscribers. That's what this comes down to-- do you trust the large ISPs to treat all traffic the same even if they offer their own competitive service or see a revenue stream from charing content providers. Edited May 17, 2018 by JoeF 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Didn't Paul Ryan say he's not going to offer the bill for a vote? If that's true, it's dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, Marv's Neighbor said: Didn't Paul Ryan say he's not going to offer the bill for a vote? If that's true, it's dead. Yep. He has in the past voiced support for the FCC rolling back the rules. There is an effort to work around him.. http://thehill.com/policy/technology/388084-dem-rep-to-launch-discharge-petition-to-force-net-neutrality-vote-in-house Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 2 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said: Has it kicked in yet... The dismantling of rules? Would people have noticed? I ask that because... Usually on these issues, I find it easier to simply oppose the people who are using the most extreme rhetoric to defend their position. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 2 hours ago, JoeF said: Yep. He has in the past voiced support for the FCC rolling back the rules. There is an effort to work around him.. http://thehill.com/policy/technology/388084-dem-rep-to-launch-discharge-petition-to-force-net-neutrality-vote-in-house I wish he would just leave! He's already said that he won't run again. He still gets his full Congressional pay and benefits FOR LIFE. He should leave now, if he won't do his job. What's his point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 https://www.wired.com/story/ajit-pai-man-who-killed-net-neutrality/ Thought this was interesting...and pretty fair... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LikeIGiveADarn Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 I can't stand some of the folks I've talked to recently about this, basically "If Obama was for it, I'm against it!" I can't even begin to imagine how vapid an existence that must be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 I'm terrified of the Internet returning to like it was in 2008! Please, please, don't allow free market capitalism! Dear, God no! Let's make it a utility! Let's regulate it! We need more government to save our internets! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 Net Neutrality has always been stupid. Now more stupid people want it because the media is telling them to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 17 hours ago, Boyst62 said: I'm terrified of the Internet returning to like it was in 2008! Please, please, don't allow free market capitalism! Dear, God no! Let's make it a utility! Let's regulate it! We need more government to save our internets! Shouldn't this be re-directed to the "re-directed political bull ****" section of PPP? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 On 5/17/2018 at 11:25 AM, JoeF said: June 11th is the date... it's a valid question...Verizon, ATT, CenturyLink/Level3, Comcast, Charter, etc. have alluded to some commitment that they won't manage traffic any differently than they do today. However, I don't know whether I believe that if a provider has a competitive movie streaming service that they will treat Netflix packets the same as their own movie streaming packets. Will they upgrade routers and switches in SuperNaps that peer with Netflix?? They could also make NetFlix pay for priority access and then Netflix passes this along to subscribers. That's what this comes down to-- do you trust the large ISPs to treat all traffic the same even if they offer their own competitive service or see a revenue stream from charing content providers. They're paying a shitload for lobbyists against Net Neutrality for them to do nothing when it's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeBuffaloGreatAgain Posted May 18, 2018 Share Posted May 18, 2018 Getting rid of Met Neutrality was the right move. Don’t bring it back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LikeIGiveADarn Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 10 hours ago, Alaska Darin said: Net Neutrality has always been stupid. Now more stupid people want it because the media is telling them to. 23 hours ago, Boyst62 said: I'm terrified of the Internet returning to like it was in 2008! Please, please, don't allow free market capitalism! Dear, God no! Let's make it a utility! Let's regulate it! We need more government to save our internets! 4 hours ago, MakeBuffaloGreatAgain said: Getting rid of Met Neutrality was the right move. Don’t bring it back Do any of you know what net Neutrality is? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 39 minutes ago, LikeIGiveADarn said: Do any of you know what net Neutrality is? Doesn't sound like it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 On 5/17/2018 at 11:39 AM, Marv's Neighbor said: So once again, Congress is just gathering dust! I guess Congress needs a DnC? Ask for the "rape kit." ????I keed, I keed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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