billsfan1959 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, PIZ said: Keep trying. I got in around the 3rd or 4th try. Not sure how, but I did. Excellent article. Makes me consider signing up for the Buffalo News. $3 a month seems cheap. It is cheap and there are some good articles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Just now, Aussie Joe said: Umm - pick 22 would have been required to go to 5... No new Linebacker if that happens ... I understand that, but we would have traded only one second and got back one of the Broncos’ thirds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Shaw66 said: That's great stuff. Plenty of details. One thing that's changed under McBeane is that they aren't afraid to tell you stuff. They are confident about what they can and can't say, and they share information. That's great for the fans. One question. Beane says he knew very very little about the qbs on the day the Jets traded up. Beand saod, essentially, that he was in no position to make a move like that at that time. Well, the Jets traded a boat load to get to three, so they to know there were three qbs they would take. How could they be so sure about threw when Beane didn't know anything? Were the Jets just stupid and got lucky? Personally -- and this is only my opinion -- I feel that once the Jets lost out on the Kirk Cousins sweepstakes, they said "we're drafting a top QB come hell or high water" and made the move without knowing who'd be there and who, specifically, they would end up with. The McCagnan/Bowles duo are all-in on this because it's their last chance at sticking around in New Jersey. If they get this one wrong, they're out. As for the Bills, I keep hearing the same word applied to McDermott and Beane: Methodical. Pegula said it's almost CRAZY how methodical Beane is. With that being the case, I do NOT feel that he wanted to blindly trade up before he was certain he had done his homework. He did NOT want to tie his first big draft -- and the one that may decide whether he sinks or swims as a GM, ultimately -- to a player he wasn't totally sure about. Different approaches by GMs with different styles and in different phases of their careers. Edited May 4, 2018 by Logic 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 43 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Pretty much the same thing from the Bills' website. I'd guess that Beane had Brown and the News in together. Gave them a dual exclusive interview. Among other things McBeane are doing is working to repair relations with the News. They call reporters by first names in the press conferences. They say stuff like "that's a good question." These guys know what they're doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: It is cheap and there are some good articles Yeah, it's just...I live in Portland, Oregon, so having a Buffalo newspaper subscription doesn't make a ton of sense for me. Even in terms of "home town coverage", I'm from Rochester, so....I dunno. I can't seem to justify it in my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, mannc said: I understand that, but we would have traded only one second and got back one of the Broncos’ thirds. I see the difference as considerable between the proposed deal for 5 and the actual deal for 7... guess we will agree to disagree Edited May 4, 2018 by Aussie Joe 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Logic said: Personally -- and this is only my opinion -- I feel that once the Jets lost out on the Kirk Cousins sweepstakes, they said "we're drafting a top QB come hell or high water" and made the move without knowing who'd be there who, specifically, they would end up with. The McCagnan/Bowles duo are all-in on this because it's their last chance at sticking around in New Jersey. If they get this one wrong, they're out. As for the Bills, I keep hearing the same word applied to McDermott and Beane: Methodical. Pegula said it's almost CRAZY how methodical Beane is. With that being the case, I do NOT feel that he wanted to blindly trade up before he was certain he had done his homework. He did NOT want to tie his first big draft -- and the one that may decide whether he sinks or swims as a GM, ultimately -- to a player he wasn't totally sure about. Different approaches by GMs with different styles and in different phases of their careers. I think you're right about the Jets. They couldnt get one or two, they certainly could afford to let the Bills get three. I think they swallowed hard and leapt. Beane's patience got him Edmunds. Lovin it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Now Moment Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, mannc said: I understand that, but we would have traded only one second and got back one of the Broncos’ thirds. I'll take Tremaine over any two players in the second round. He has such high potential. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB12 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 (edited) Great moves by Beane IF the OL was intact. Those holes need to be plugged, sooner than later. Edited May 4, 2018 by QB12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, Logic said: Yeah, it's just...I live in Portland, Oregon, so having a Buffalo newspaper subscription doesn't make a ton of sense for me. Even in terms of "home town coverage", I'm from Rochester, so....I dunno. I can't seem to justify it in my mind. I know what you mean. I live in Raleigh, NC, now and I can find pretty much everything I want to read on the internet. For me, it is cheap enough that I don't mind keeping the subscription. Every now and then there are articles I want to read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Buffalo30 said: I'll take Tremaine over any two players in the second round. He has such high potential. I’m not saying I’m unhappy with what we got, but if the Bills do that trade with Denver, they end up with two more premium picks in the draft: pick 65 and Denver’s third, while effectively swapping 22 for 56. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, mannc said: I’m not saying I’m unhappy with what we got, but if the Bills do that trade with Denver, they end up with two more premium picks in the draft: pick 65 and Denver’s third, while effectively swapping 22 for 56. Pick 65 wasn’t part of the trade in either scenario... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Pick 65 wasn’t part of the trade in either scenario... Didn’t they trade 65 to move up for Edmunds? That trade doesn’t happen if they take the Denver deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills365 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 2 hours ago, HappyDays said: This is a fantastic article: http://buffalonews.com/2018/05/04/inside-the-bills-gm-brandon-beane-breaks-down-how-he-traded-up-twice-in-first-round-of-nfl-draft/?utm_campaign=puma&utm_medium=social&utm_source=Twitter#link_time=1525465869 I see now it's behind a paywall. I was able to read it a few minutes ago and now I can't. If someone can copy and paste it that would be helpful. Great read!! Thanks for sharing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 I can't read the article. Maybe someone can answer a question: Did Beane make it clear that he would have taken Josh Allen at #5 had the deal with Denver happened? Who was the target at #5 if Denver is willing to deal with us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 2 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: think we may FINALLY Have a GM winner in charge?......has to be demoralizing for the TBD pundits' "fire McBeane, McD and McDaboll" gang now.....sure it is early on, but this FO, Admin & coaching staff sure as hell IMO is shaping up to be "Polian like"......a tad (COUGH) better than the post Polian gang of unqualified misfits plugged into positions NOT qualified for as well as the "over the hill" gang lauded because they were "re-tired"....hell, I'd bet McBeane already has detailed sketches drawn up as to his moves, probable Bflo draft slots, possible draftees, UFA's/RFA's for 2019 with $85+ mil in the cookie jar...... He is ahead of the game, meaning Beane. Let me say this .....for a rookie, Beane did well.THE most promising of which, is being able to gamble. That's right, that's what he did. To not see that unfolding the way it did- after countless hours of draft simulation, and yet to still be on his toes for the pot, tells me all I need to know about Brandon Beane. He's gonna be a good one 5 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: I can't read the article. Maybe someone can answer a question: Did Beane make it clear that he would have taken Josh Allen at #5 had the deal with Denver happened? Who was the target at #5 if Denver is willing to deal with us? Idk....but the only QB taken picks 5-10 was Allen, then Rosen. Do the math... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Shaw66 said: That's great stuff. Plenty of details. One thing that's changed under McBeane is that they aren't afraid to tell you stuff. They are confident about what they can and can't say, and they share information. That's great for the fans. One question. Beane says he knew very very little about the qbs on the day the Jets traded up. Beand saod, essentially, that he was in no position to make a move like that at that time. Well, the Jets traded a boat load to get to three, so they to know there were three qbs they would take. How could they be so sure about threw when Beane didn't know anything? Were the Jets just stupid and got lucky? No. It was reported that the Jets owner had instructed his staff to be over the top, extremely thorough in evaluating this years QB class, or else. They poured a ton of resources into it. So they were extra prepared because their owner opened his checkbook and told them to be ready Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Logic said: Yeah, it's just...I live in Portland, Oregon, so having a Buffalo newspaper subscription doesn't make a ton of sense for me. Even in terms of "home town coverage", I'm from Rochester, so....I dunno. I can't seem to justify it in my mind. I only subscribed to be able to read Pete Rosen's stuff. (Pete is known as "the obnoxious Rosen" to distinguish him from the much more pleasant Josh) In my opinion aside from Pete's work, this is the only article that rises to pay status. This article by Skurski is very well done in every way and shows lot sof work. Most all else you get is just the same Sully or Bucky half day of typing about some trivial rant or insult or opinion. So you aren't missing anything. But if they start to produce more work of this quality it would be well worth subscribing. Edited May 5, 2018 by BadLandsMeanie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 2 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: Thanks - enjoyed the read. Some comments from Beane I had heard before, but he has now spelled out the terms for the trade with Denver.. 12,, 22 and one of their second rounders for 5 and one of Denver’s third rounders... Thank the Lord that Cleveland picked Ward.. Yeah, that choice of theirs gave us a shot at another high-potential 1st round pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Yeah, that choice of theirs gave us a shot at another high-potential 1st round pick If Edmunds turns out to be special , then this could turn out to be a real sliding doors moment.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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