BuffaloRush Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 I feel like many fans are looking for reasons to get on the Josh Allen bandwagon, so here's something. Last month the alleged wonderlic scores were leaked. The Wonderlic test does not predict success or failure in the league, but I thought it might be fun to see where Josh Allen compares to QB's of the Bills past. This is a good article about this year's class, as well as the Wonderlic in general: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2018/03/30/leaked-wonderlic-results-look-good-for-josh-allen-not-so-much-for-lamar-jackson/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ec21930665f0 But remember, 50 points is the highest you can get. A 22 is a decent score. Anything about 30 is considered good. There's a few QB's that don't have a Wonderlic score on file. If you don't see a Bills QB on this list, that's why. So here's where Allen fits in: Ryan Fitzpatrick 48 Josh Allen 37 Drew Bledsoe 36 Brian Brohm 32 Girbran Hamden 32 Nate Peterman 32 Trent Edwards 31 JP Losman 31 EJ Manuel 28 Kyle Orton 26 Cardale Jones 25 AJ McCarron 22 Tyrod Taylor 15 Jim Kelly 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 I don't think people are on the Allen bandwagon as much as you think. It's more of people trying to be positive and hype themselves up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted April 29, 2018 Author Share Posted April 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, Lfod said: I don't think people are on the Allen bandwagon as much as you think. It's more of people trying to be positive and hype themselves up. Oh no....I don't think so either. I think most wanted Rosen at that pick. But rather than whinge like the folks at WGR fans are hoping for the best and trying to find any glimmer of hope. Here is one thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Great. So he is the opposite of jimbo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Good thing that guy at the bottom didn’t play long. He couldn’t read a defense...imagine him trying to call his own plays?? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 24 minutes ago, Lfod said: I don't think people are on the Allen bandwagon as much as you think. It's more of people trying to be positive and hype themselves up. That's US! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
major Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 So the dumbest qb's we had got us to the playoffs 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 This has nothing to do with anything. McBeane picked him over the others for two reasons: 1. Athleticism 2. Work Ethic McDermott is a Work Ethic guy, I think he didn't like Rosen's meh-its-only-football-how-hard-can-it-be attitude. Wonderlic played zero role. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRush Posted April 29, 2018 Author Share Posted April 29, 2018 6 minutes ago, JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS said: This has nothing to do with anything. McBeane picked him over the others for two reasons: 1. Athleticism 2. Work Ethic McDermott is a Work Ethic guy, I think he didn't like Rosen's meh-its-only-football-how-hard-can-it-be attitude. Wonderlic played zero role. Never did....I just meant if there's one way positive to find about Allen - he scored very well on the Wonderlic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakin Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 55 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: Great. So he is the opposite of jimbo. So maybe he wins 4 Super Bowls? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 So at least in Buffalo, if you are a QB it's better to have a low Wonderlic score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lfod Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 1 minute ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: So at least in Buffalo, if you are a QB it's better to have a low Wonderlic score? They used up all the brain space on football knowledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoff Bound Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 I used to think JP Losman was as dumb as a brick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 He's a full 5 points ahead of the Chroise. That's all I need to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShakAttack Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Fwiw average wonderlic score by super bowl winning QBs is 30.5. Jim Kelly is an exception to what I’m about to say but I think when it comes to the wonderlic, lower scores are definitely a flag. I don’t think it’s coincidental that a lot of the QBs I see with low scores on the wonderlic are the same ones that have “slow eyes”, hold the ball too long, etc. but as far as Jim, he was a unique personality when he was younger and not necessarily in a good way, so I wouldn’t be surprised if young Jim didn’t bother taking the test seriously to begin with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entropyrules Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, BobBelcher said: Fwiw average wonderlic score by super bowl winning QBs is 30.5. Jim Kelly is an exception to what I’m about to say but I think when it comes to the wonderlic, lower scores are definitely a flag. I don’t think it’s coincidental that a lot of the QBs I see with low scores on the wonderlic are the same ones that have “slow eyes”, hold the ball too long, etc. but as far as Jim, he was a unique personality when he was younger and not necessarily in a good way, so I wouldn’t be surprised if young Jim didn’t bother taking the test seriously to begin with of course there is a good possibility Kelly was "hammered" the night before he took the test just like all those nights before a superbowl Edited April 29, 2018 by entropyrules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 Is there a wondering for reading defenses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boludo Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 i never knew kelly was such a dummy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 4 hours ago, JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS said: This has nothing to do with anything. McBeane picked him over the others for two reasons: 1. Athleticism 2. Work Ethic McDermott is a Work Ethic guy, I think he didn't like Rosen's meh-its-only-football-how-hard-can-it-be attitude. Wonderlic played zero role. It's just another piece to the thousands in the puzzle. It plays a small role just like all the other pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOE IN HAMPTON ROADS Posted April 29, 2018 Share Posted April 29, 2018 7 hours ago, BobBelcher said: Fwiw average wonderlic score by super bowl winning QBs is 30.5. Jim Kelly is an exception to what I’m about to say but I think when it comes to the wonderlic, lower scores are definitely a flag. I don’t think it’s coincidental that a lot of the QBs I see with low scores on the wonderlic are the same ones that have “slow eyes”, hold the ball too long, etc. but as far as Jim, he was a unique personality when he was younger and not necessarily in a good way, so I wouldn’t be surprised if young Jim didn’t bother taking the test seriously to begin with young Jim was probably still legally drunk from the night before when he took it. It was a different era. Lots of people didn't take that kind of thing seriously. You didn't need to have a sterling record of standardized test scores to get into college, or to get a good job. Especially a future pro-level athlete. He probably treated it as a complete joke. He's a smart guy, as he showed on the field. Wonder what his score would be in this day and age. I'm guessing similar to Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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