Xwnyer Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Many people here hate the Allen pick but I a, letting the football people decided who they like best. One thing I was suprised to hear in the presser last night is that the tweets were unknown to the Bills prior to yesterday morning. One would have thought that in their due diligence they would have at least looked into social media history of the guy. Maybe they just looked at current account not for everything ever posted which takes a little more work to find. But given they likely talked to many people about this kid suprised nothing ever got mentioned. I like the pick just suprised at the comment about not knowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 This speaks to the ineptitude of the franchise... What a disaster. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 The tweets were deleted but somebody had taken snapshots of them. For whatever reason they were brought to light the night before the draft. I suspect Belichick, naturally. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) I honestly don't care about tweets from junior high. Non story to me. I don't see why the Bills would dig into his junior high years if 18-21 years are clean. Edited April 27, 2018 by TheTruthHurts 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Doc Brown said: The tweets were deleted but somebody had taken snapshots of them. For whatever reason they were brought to light the night before the draft. I suspect Belichick, naturally. Probably a GF he dumped... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 They didn't know that Allen was a racist? I find that hard to believe in this day and age with all of the technology right at everyone's fingertips that they didnt do their due diligence and plead ignorance that they didnt know that Allen made those tweets..........or are the rest of Bills nation either just that stupid or just that gullible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 7 minutes ago, Sweats said: They didn't know that Allen was a racist? I find that hard to believe in this day and age with all of the technology right at everyone's fingertips that they didnt do their due diligence and plead ignorance that they didnt know that Allen made those tweets..........or are the rest of Bills nation either just that stupid or just that gullible. Well I will say none of the haters on this board found this stuff either. What these kids don’t realize is that what they post on social media or on internet message boards is around for eternity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneblitz Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 13 minutes ago, T-Bomb said: This speaks to the ineptitude of the franchise... What a disaster. man, I'd love to know how old you actually are, cause honestly you come off as a child in all your posts. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, greeneblitz said: man, I'd love to know how old you actually are, cause honestly you come off as a child in all your posts. And you're just another lemming... "The Bills must know what they are doing, let me just sit back and watch, golly gee, see what happens, hoping for the best"... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 14 minutes ago, T-Bomb said: This speaks to the ineptitude of the franchise... What a disaster. Several teams called him or his agents yesterday to ask for an explanation. Maybe teams don't put that much of a priority on nonsense like this. Maybe they prefer to look at the football side of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneblitz Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 10 minutes ago, Sweats said: They didn't know that Allen was a racist? I find that hard to believe in this day and age with all of the technology right at everyone's fingertips that they didnt do their due diligence and plead ignorance that they didnt know that Allen made those tweets..........or are the rest of Bills nation either just that stupid or just that gullible. lol, saying "whats white is right" when you're a 16 year old kid does not make you a raciest, snowflake, it makes you a normal kid that says dumb stuff occasionaly, 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, What a Tuel said: Maybe teams don't put that much of a priority on nonsense like this On racism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 His tweets that are allegedly racist from the race baiting peanut gallery were in reference to a song. Quoting lyrics 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thandGoal Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 10 minutes ago, Sweats said: They didn't know that Allen was a racist? I find that hard to believe in this day and age with all of the technology right at everyone's fingertips that they didnt do their due diligence and plead ignorance that they didnt know that Allen made those tweets..........or are the rest of Bills nation either just that stupid or just that gullible. i also like to add that so many posters believe they did so much digging on each QB that even they didnt find this out. It very well could be that many teams didnt find out. I am optimistic that Allen has learned from this and he will become a better man because of this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 13 minutes ago, Sweats said: or are the rest of Bills nation either just that stupid or just that gullible Both Most Bills fans have no problem losing it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, T-Bomb said: On racism? Racism? Really lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, greeneblitz said: lol, saying "whats white is right" when you're a 16 year old kid does not make you a raciest, snowflake, it makes you a normal kid that says dumb stuff occasionaly, So...........you'd have no problem if your son said somewhat arguably racist remarks all over social media? You'd be ok with that? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, greeneblitz said: lol, saying "whats white is right" when you're a 16 year old kid does not make you a raciest, snowflake, it makes you a normal kid that says dumb stuff occasionaly, He was quoting Modern Family and it was "If you ain't white, you ain't right." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Sweats said: So...........you'd have no problem if your son said somewhat arguably racist remarks all over social media? You'd be ok with that? If his son got drafted by Beane, sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Sweats said: So...........you'd have no problem if your son said somewhat arguably racist remarks all over social media? You'd be ok with that? Has anyone found out the context yet? No I would not have a problem with my kid quoting rap lyrics. Calling someone the N-word sure, but repeating song lyrics? No. Or comedy routines? Nope not that either. Sorry I refuse to out the guy as a racist when you can't even tell me what he meant by it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 8 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: Several teams called him or his agents yesterday to ask for an explanation. Maybe teams don't put that much of a priority on nonsense like this. Maybe they prefer to look at the football side of it. Its 2018.... and things you don’t think count can count 10 billion times more than you think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 I think they had already decided on their guy and didn't give a sh*t about any Twitter posts from when he was 16 years old. After the fact they just played stupid about it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneykm Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 7 minutes ago, T-Bomb said: On racism? Ive heard way, way worse. The kid, lets not forget that, said something dumb on twitter. Hes not a racist anymore than someone who calls people crackers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, What a Tuel said: Has anyone found out the context yet? No I would not have a problem with my kid quoting rap lyrics. Calling someone the N-word sure, but repeating song lyrics? No. Or comedy routines? Nope not that either. Sorry I refuse to out the guy as a racist when you can't even tell me what he meant by it. Not that it is right, but that is not how media works, nor will the Bills get a pass for not knowing about the tweets even though it was a screenshot. They will get ripped by the national media, further perpetuating the ineptitude of the franchise. It is pretty impossible to find the tweets if they were screen caps on some ex-girlfriends phone. Doesn't mean they will not take any heat for not knowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, row_33 said: Its 2018.... and things you don’t think count can count 10 billion times more than you think To be fair I don't care that they didn't look at 5 year old twitter tweets. And I don't think many tweets back then would have much of an impact on him as a football player. So I'd prefer them to concentrate on football. So actually not noticing the tweets is the opposite of an inept football organization, maybe just inept PR? So who cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodneykm Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: He was quoting Modern Family and it was "If you ain't white, you ain't right." This. People need thicker skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: Has anyone found out the context yet? No I would not have a problem with my kid quoting rap lyrics. Calling someone the N-word sure, but repeating song lyrics? No. Or comedy routines? Nope not that either. Sorry I refuse to out the guy as a racist when you can't even tell me what he meant by it. Pretty sure he was quoting a TV show with his teenage HS friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, T-Bomb said: Not that it is right, but that is not how media works, nor will the Bills get a pass for not knowing about the tweets even though it was a screenshot. They will get ripped by the national media, further perpetuating the ineptitude of the franchise. It is pretty impossible to find the tweets if they were screen caps on some ex-girlfriends phone. Doesn't mean they will not take any heat for not knowing. I could not care less about this. Why do you care? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, What a Tuel said: To be fair I don't care that they didn't look at 5 year old twitter tweets. And I don't think many tweets back then would have much of an impact on him as a football player. So I'd prefer them to concentrate on football. So actually not noticing the tweets is the opposite of an inept football organization, maybe just inept PR? So who cares. I'd prefer them to concentrate on football as well, which boggles the mind on how they selected Allen over Rosen. They must not be very good at you know, football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: Has anyone found out the context yet? No I would not have a problem with my kid quoting rap lyrics. Calling someone the N-word sure, but repeating song lyrics? No. Or comedy routines? Nope not that either. Sorry I refuse to out the guy as a racist when you can't even tell me what he meant by it. To get back to the original topic, i refuse to believe that our FO didn't know about the tweets. That is all.......carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Bomb Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, What a Tuel said: I could not care less about this. Why do you care? I'd prefer they didn't have a dumbass for QB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, rodneykm said: This. People need thicker skin. Exactly. It's the new mentality people have today, to blow everything out of proportion. 1 minute ago, Sweats said: To get back to the original topic, i refuse to believe that our FO didn't know about the tweets. That is all.......carry on. Exactly. Beane just didn't want to give it anymore airtime. It was a non-issue in their minds, so why keep talking about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Sweats said: To get back to the original topic, i refuse to believe that our FO didn't know about the tweets. That is all.......carry on. Beane should have said yes we knew absolutely ur the tweets last year when we started our due diligence and realized they are not indicative of who the person is. Maybe just bad at the PR game since they had to know the question would be asked. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timekills17 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) The episode that Josh Allen was quoting. In no way to I imply this justifies or makes it acceptable. Simply putting it out there. "@FelipeeeeMelo_: Bout to show up these Niggas at pong. Gonna do for @j_prodigy_5 @AFlyer5 and @J_Sal_Forever_5.":) — Josh Allen (@JoshAllenQB) February 26, 2012 Why are you so white ? — If it ain't white, it ain't right! http://t.co/wsLQKZQWG5 — Josh Allen (@JoshAllenQB) June 25, 2013 Edited April 27, 2018 by timekills17 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, timekills17 said: If people don't think kids are making jokes like this to each other on a consistent basis, they are in for a world of hurt. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, timekills17 said: The episode that Josh Allen was quoting. In no way to I imply this justifies or makes it acceptable. Simply putting it out there. Thanx now I know why I never watched this show or other shows that people think are funny. Guess I am an old fart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timekills17 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, What a Tuel said: If people don't think kids are making jokes like this to each other on a consistent basis, they are in for a world of hurt. My son, when playing basketball on a team where he was the only white player, had the nickname "flashlight" and "white lightning." Racist? I mean, it definitely was because he was a different skin color than his team mates. Offensive? Not to him or his friends on the team. Again - not justifying that or Allen's comments. Just that everything needs to be taken in context. Interesting that the people he sent the tweets to were of multiple races. Were they offended? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted April 27, 2018 Author Share Posted April 27, 2018 Just now, timekills17 said: My son, when playing basketball on a team where he was the only white player, had the nickname "flashlight" and "white lightning." Racist? I mean, it definitely was because he was a different skin color than his team mates. Offensive? Not to him or his friends on the team. Again - not justifying that or Allen's comments. Just that everything needs to be taken in context. Interesting that the people he sent the tweets to were of multiple races. Were they offended? Probably not at all because this is the way our kids behave since they had such great shows like modern family, Simpson’s and other great examples of proper social conduct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timekills17 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Xwnyer said: Probably not at all because this is the way our kids behave since they had such great shows like modern family, Simpson’s and other great examples of proper social conduct Well, my kids didn't/don't watch either. Neither do I. However, you do recognize that the Modern Family clip is a parody that is showing the character's (unintentional) insensitivity. I remember some young girls pointing out my daughter being white when at a pre-pre school age. They weren't commenting to be racist, just making a factual statement. ALSO however, my kids and I are intelligent and aware enough not to use potentially racist terminology even in jest or without racist intent. Edited April 27, 2018 by timekills17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, timekills17 said: Well, my kids didn't/don't watch either. Neither do I. However, you do recognize that the Modern Family clip is a parody that is showing the character's (unintentional) insensitivity. I remember some young girls pointing out my daughter being white when at a pre-pre school age. They weren't commenting to be racist, just making a factual statement. ALSO however, my kids and I are intelligent and aware enough not to use potentially racist terminology even in jest or without racist intent. Not to mention the product of tv shows identifying and make fun of the unintentional insensitivity then kids do the same but then one up each other. The idea that Allen hates black people or thinks he is superior as a result of this is so absurd it makes me laugh anytime people try to talk about it as a problem. Edited April 27, 2018 by What a Tuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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