Hurricane Marv Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 9 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Who exactly are the cool kids "Experienced front offices" is what I should have said. Not that it's an apt description whatsoever, I just can't shake the feeling that we got completely taken by a rookie project while the Jets got a bonafide franchise QB. Would have been much worse had the Dolphins taken Rosen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Mat68 said: More than 2/3 belive he will not be a bust. Can we put to rest that narrative now and enjoy the fact for the first time in 25 years Buffalo has a Qb with franchise Qb potential. they all have potential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuSeYiN_NYC Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 10 hours ago, WMDman said: he has the lowest floor but the highest ceiling Good nickname would be, The Architect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, Hurricane Marv said: "Experienced front offices" is what I should have said. Not that it's an apt description whatsoever, I just can't shake the feeling that we got completely taken by a rookie project while the Jets got a bonafide franchise QB. Would have been much worse had the Dolphins taken Rosen. I am not saying you are wrong because nobody knows....but the expereinced front office you are referring to (jets?) has taken swings and missed at like drafting what...3 QBs in the last 4 years or something like that? And their team has been flat out aweful. While ours made the playoffs last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Marv Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I am not saying you are wrong because nobody knows....but the expereinced front office you are referring to (jets?) has taken swings and missed at like drafting what...3 QBs in the last 4 years or something like that? And their team has been flat out aweful. While ours made the playoffs last year. It's more about us than them, and them refers to the entire league more so than the Jets. I'm simply fearful that McBeane got over-excited in what has been a relatively brief tenure and took the project that other NFL execs wouldn't have touched until the end of the first round. We'll see, but this pick will be their legacy for better or worse. Edited April 27, 2018 by Hurricane Marv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 5 hours ago, T-Bomb said: As per usual, this franchise is in no better hands with Pegula than it was with Ralph. Neither did EJ Manuel the night he was drafted, smart fans knew what we were getting... Why does it not suprise me that you are in the punchbowl pisser group come this morning......surprise surprise Congrats....you have a new punching bag 1 minute ago, Hurricane Marv said: It's more about us than them, and them refers to the entire league more so than the Jets. I'm simply fearful that McBeane got over-excited in what has been a relatively brief tenure and took the project that other NFL execs wouldn't have touched until the end of the first round. We'll see, but this pick will be their legacy for better or worse. This is just my opinion I am seeing people pointing to what happened with EJ Manuel This really is not that situation...EJ Manuel was NEVER thought of as a guy that could go number 1 overall in the draft.....and that draft was considered a poor QB draft to begin with This is not the case.....it is a STRONG QB draft and Allen is a part of it......there are some areas of concern most definately but there is also things to be excited about with this kid....he could easily when it is all said and done be the "last man standing" out of these QBs because he is no where close to his ceiling. Its a wait and see for me....but at least Bean did not over reach to get him.....he was smart with is assets....and allowed us to also pick up Edmunds. I personally think Bean is a schrewed dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackKemp Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 10 hours ago, Ol Dirty B said: I'm confused. Who are all these people who love Allen? Todd McShay, Mel Kiper, Mike Mayock, Beane, McDermott, the Pegulas... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 3 minutes ago, Hurricane Marv said: It's more about us than them, and them refers to the entire league more so than the Jets. I'm simply fearful that McBeane got over-excited in what has been a relatively brief tenure and took the project that other NFL execs wouldn't have touched until the end of the first round. We'll see, but this pick will be their legacy for better or worse. Do you seriously believe this ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
first_and_ten Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 11 hours ago, MAJBobby said: I went from ”Trust the Process” to “PROVE your Process” I'm sticking with "trust the process" until they prove otherwise. So far Beane and Mcdermott seems to know what they are doing and have a plan, unlike past administrations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assquatch Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 All I want from that position is someone who makes smart, timely decisions and throws the ball accurately. This guy is everything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Marv Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Why does it not suprise me that you are in the punchbowl pisser group come this morning......surprise surprise Congrats....you have a new punching bag This is just my opinion I am seeing people pointing to what happened with EJ Manuel This really is not that situation...EJ Manuel was NEVER thought of as a guy that could go number 1 overall in the draft.....and that draft was considered a poor QB draft to begin with This is not the case.....it is a STRONG QB draft and Allen is a part of it......there are some areas of concern most definately but there is also things to be excited about with this kid....he could easily when it is all said and done be the "last man standing" out of these QBs because he is no where close to his ceiling. Its a wait and see for me....but at least Bean did not over reach to get him.....he was smart with is assets....and allowed us to also pick up Edmunds. I personally think Bean is a schrewed dude Taking him at 7 and keeping enough to still get Edmunds was fantastic, I'm on board with that. I may have crossed into TV through window territory had we bet everything to move up to #5 for Allen . 10 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said: Do you seriously believe this ?? No, I don't really believe it, thus my skepticism that I've highlighted in like every comment I've made. I don't really know what to believe other than the fact that he's a project that we seemingly coveted more than other teams. We do have both an inexperienced coach and terribly raw QB right now though, it's worth being skeptical. Edited April 27, 2018 by Hurricane Marv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 23 minutes ago, Hurricane Marv said: "Experienced front offices" is what I should have said. Not that it's an apt description whatsoever, I just can't shake the feeling that we got completely taken by a rookie project while the Jets got a bonafide franchise QB. Would have been much worse had the Dolphins taken Rosen. I'll agree on the Dolphins part, but the Bills didn't have a choice between Darnold and Allen. Perhaps they would have chosen Darnold in that situation? Regardless, zero the Bills could do about the Jets and Darnold. Wasn't part of this equation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Marv Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Boatdrinks said: I'll agree on the Dolphins part, but the Bills didn't have a choice between Darnold and Allen. Perhaps they would have chosen Darnold in that situation? Regardless, zero the Bills could do about the Jets and Darnold. Wasn't part of this equation. or just go BPA and get your QB later instead of stretching to get one of the top-4, which was largely over-hyped by the media. I'm in the Bucky Brooks camp when it comes to that. ultimately I'm ok with the pick considering we still got Edmunds, I'm just very skeptical. Allen was #5 on my list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Hurricane Marv said: or just go BPA and get your QB later instead of stretching to get one of the top-4, which was largely over-hyped by the media. I'm in the Bucky Brooks camp when it comes to that. ultimately I'm ok with the pick considering we still got Edmunds, I'm just very skeptical. Allen was #5 on my list. You could certainly make a strong case for keeping the 2second rounders (good value picks in this draft for sure) going LB at 12 and Jackson at 22 . I'd be more confident in that scenario than what they chose to do. I'll hope that I'm wrong. Some WR/ OL help in round two would have been nice, and you'd have your stud LB / project QB combo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 11 hours ago, No Cease Fires said: Anyone who thinks he's gonna be a star is just mainlining kool-aid at this point. I happen to love kool aid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 I wasn’t thrilled when he was picked, but admittedly I know so little about him. Just the idea of another drawn out development process is gross to me, but I’m over the disappointment. Let’s see how this **** plays out. Giddy up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millbank Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 (edited) One thing I know i will be extremely happy if this turns out to be the right decision . The teams owners and Coaching staff did meet with this player made this decision and ultimately will answer for it. One thing we all know is that this market has had it with losing and the pressure will be on huge to at least see some hope this was the right decision . It is difficult when a fan base has waited a few generations for a winner year in and year out with not a great deal of real hope of visable substance. The decision makers are going to need be extremely strong to be patient with a young man in a position that does require time , patience and hard work . The fan base needs to see some hope now and are out of patience Edited April 27, 2018 by millbank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSNBDSC Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 When drafted a bust. Morning after I think he'll be more than OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosen-not-Chosen Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 5 hours ago, joesixpack said: Howard Simon has really turned me off today. Don't wanna be there at work, Howard? Well go pound sand. Retire and let someone do the job that wants to do it. He's been watching the Bills spin their wheels at QB for a very long time, his frustration is justified. This pick is an epic fail, Maybin style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 minute ago, Rosen-not-Chosen said: He's been watching the Bills spin their wheels at QB for a very long time, his frustration is justified. This pick is an epic fail, Maybin style. Pound sand, troll account. You can choose to cry about it for an extended period, or you could, you know...be a man about it and get on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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