McNubbins Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Absolutely. He was one of the few things that made the drought tolerable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 30 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said: Meh. Loved the guy, but not Wall of Fame. Agreed. Not sure what everybody thinks he's a no brainier. no. you don't reward players in the playoff abyss unless they were all-NFL 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Nope. He was an average back on crappy teams. Yes ... there's not a Bills fan in the world who did not love him as a Bill. I just think it takes more than that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Avon Lake now Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 A little off topic, but how about Aaron Schoebel for Wall. He played his entire career for Bills had 78 sacks and 2 pro bowls. He may still have the record for most career sacks of Brady. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 1 minute ago, row_33 said: no. you don't reward players in the playoff abyss unless they were all-NFL 1 minute ago, Gugny said: Nope. He was an average back on crappy teams. Yes ... there's not a Bills fan in the world who did not love him as a Bill. I just think it takes more than that. Agree with both of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evanmachlan Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 Absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, evanmachlan said: Absolutely. great guy, some good memories, but not a hope unless Tyrod is the best QB you've been around for in Bills history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evanmachlan Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 1 minute ago, row_33 said: great guy, some good memories, but not a hope unless Tyrod is the best QB you've been around for in Bills history Naah, I disagree. He should be up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 31 minutes ago, Go-Bills said: Fred symbolizes everything Buffalo is!!! Never say quite Never say Die! Put on the Wall tomorrow. ....both ON and OFF the field IMO........epitome of perseverance......Coe college.....UDFA with 3 tryouts that fizzled.....Arena ball to NFLE to OBD........imagine what he stats could have been if Dopey Dickie Jauron didn't have him riding the pine in favor of Anthony "A-Train" Johnson......more like the caboose............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 (edited) I think it's cool they kept bringing in high first rounders, but Fred kept beating them them out. (The Beast and Spiller) Edited April 18, 2018 by reddogblitz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 1 minute ago, reddogblitz said: I think it's cool they kept bringing in high first rounders, but Fred kept beating them them out. (The Beast and Spiller) The beast? Do you mean "beast mode" marshawn Lynch? Jackson didn't beat him out. They traded Lynch because of his off the field issues. Not because Jackson "beat him out" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said: The beast? Do you mean "beast mode" marshawn Lynch? Jackson didn't beat him out. They traded Lynch because of his off the field issues. Not because Jackson "beat him out" I do. If you say so. Willis is lucky he pre dated Fred. Edited April 18, 2018 by reddogblitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: I think it's cool they kept bringing in high first rounders, but Fred kept beating them them out. (The Beast and Spiller) Fred didn't "beat Lynch out," until they stopped giving Lynch the ball. Those two aren't even in the same universe when it comes to talent. And Spiller was just a ****ty pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsGospel Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 He absolutely should be on the wall, great story, great person and a heck of a RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 1 minute ago, reddogblitz said: I do. If you say so. I don't "say so" It's a fact You're making up revisionist history to fit a narrative. Just now, Gugny said: Fred didn't "beat Lynch out," until they stopped giving Lynch the ball. Those two aren't even in the same universe when it comes to talent. And Spiller was just a ****ty pick. Exactly. Lynch was benched because of all his off the field bs. He was constantly being disciplined. People like to make things up to fit their narrative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, Gugny said: Fred didn't "beat Lynch out," until they stopped giving Lynch the ball. Those two aren't even in the same universe when it comes to talent. And Spiller was just a ****ty pick. Fred just made Spiller look ****ty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 33 minutes ago, Gugny said: Nope. He was an average back on crappy teams. Yes ... there's not a Bills fan in the world who did not love him as a Bill. I just think it takes more than that. I would say above average, ran well, caught well, blocked exceptionally well, great 3rd down back, great in the red zone, strong ST player. He did everything he was supposed to do very well. If he's not hurt in 2011, he's a finalist for MVP for sure. In the right situation, if he breaks out a little earlier in his career, he's a 10K yard rusher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, klos63 said: I would say above average, ran well, caught well, blocked exceptionally well, great 3rd down back, great in the red zone, strong ST player. He did everything he was supposed to do very well. If he's not hurt in 2011, he's a finalist for MVP for sure. In the right situation, if he breaks out a little earlier in his career, he's a 10K yard rusher. I honestly can't push back on "above average." I still don't think he should go on the Wall. I will say, however, that he belongs up there more than Gilchrest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 18 minutes ago, reddogblitz said: Fred kept beating them them out. (The Beast and Spiller) Fred didn't beat Lynch. Fred was a good stand-in when Marshawn was suspended and he was a great change-of-pace back when Marshawn was active. One could argue that Fred made it a little easier to get rid of Lynch, due to Marshawn's off-the-field issues, but that's way different than saying they dumped Lynch for Jackson (which is sort of implied by saying Fred beat out Marshawn.) They dumped Lynch and his baggage for Jackson and his lack thereof. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, WhoTom said: Fred didn't beat Lynch. Fred was a good stand-in when Marshawn was suspended and he was a great change-of-pace back when Marshawn was active. One could argue that Fred made it a little easier to get rid of Lynch, due to Marshawn's off-the-field issues, but that's way different than saying they dumped Lynch for Jackson (which is sort of implied by saying Fred beat out Marshawn.) They dumped Lynch and his baggage for Jackson and his lack thereof. If you say so. I'm going with results.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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