Gugny Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said: He isn’t top 5 for me either but after pouring through all the stats it’s not crazy to make the case he is top 10-15 guy his versatility was unmatched... even Faulk couldn’t block like him . He was a modern 3rd down back combined with the speed, power , vision of a workhorse By my account he is #9 for RB not 12... who are the other 3 you found ahead of him Payton, Smith, Faulk, Sproles, Tomlinson, Sanders, Walker, Gore, Allen, Martin, T. Barber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 14, 2018 Author Share Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Gugny said: Payton, Smith, Faulk, Sproles, Tomlinson, Sanders, Walker, Gore, Allen, Martin, T. Barber He is ahead of sproles , barber the top 10 is Emmitt, Peyton, Faulk , LT, Barry Sanders , gore, Marcus Allen , Curtis Martin,, #9 Thurman Thomas https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/yds_from_scrimmage_career.htm Edited April 14, 2018 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Gugny said: Payton, Smith, Faulk, Sproles, Tomlinson, Sanders, Walker, Gore, Allen, Martin, T. Barber Was that single season or career? Sproles isn't ahead career, neither is barber Edited April 14, 2018 by SouthNYfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 14, 2018 Author Share Posted April 14, 2018 1 minute ago, SouthNYfan said: Was that single season or career? Sproles isn't ahead career, neither is barber Yea he must of went single season he is ahead of both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 1 minute ago, SouthNYfan said: Was that single season or career? Sproles isn't ahead career, neither is barber This is the link I used: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/all_purpose_yds_career.htm The other one is better. Still ... being #9 on that list isn't enough to put him into my top 10 of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 14, 2018 Author Share Posted April 14, 2018 Just now, Gugny said: This is the link I used: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/all_purpose_yds_career.htm The other one is better. Still ... being #9 on that list isn't enough to put him into my top 10 of all time. Yea, that’s is all purpose yards which is a bit different than yards from scrimmage and you are allowed your own opinion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, Gugny said: This is the link I used: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/all_purpose_yds_career.htm The other one is better. Still ... being #9 on that list isn't enough to put him into my top 10 of all time. Ahhh yes. All purpose vs from scrimmage All purpose includes kick/punt returns, int returns/fumble rec too I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said: Yea, that’s is all purpose yards which is a bit different than yards from scrimmage and you are allowed your own opinion! I love Thurman as much as any Bills fan. Kelly, too. And he's not in my top 10 for QBs, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 14, 2018 Author Share Posted April 14, 2018 Just now, SouthNYfan said: Ahhh yes. All purpose vs from scrimmage All purpose includes kick/punt returns, int returns/fumble rec too I think Yes. That’s the difference return yards and such Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Just now, SouthNYfan said: Ahhh yes. All purpose vs from scrimmage All purpose includes kick/punt returns, int returns/fumble rec too I think I took out the return specialists and thought I kept it to actual RBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 14, 2018 Author Share Posted April 14, 2018 Just now, Gugny said: I love Thurman as much as any Bills fan. Kelly, too. And he's not in my top 10 for QBs, either. I think both are obviously awesome... both are HoF but Thurman was more dominant imo I think there is a better case for Thurman top 10 than Kelly 1 minute ago, Gugny said: I took out the return specialists and thought I kept it to actual RBs. Sproles hasn’t over 10,000 career return yards to put him there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
switz1610 Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 10 hours ago, Happy Gilmore said: Plus...he was one of the few (maybe the only back) that took the snap directly and ran through the 'A' Gap. I don't think too many backs do that even now. Thurman was multi talented, maybe not a 'flashy' runner, but a very effective one...in multiple facets. The wildcat offense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 (edited) I hope you guys are figuring in TT post season yardage into his record. It is relevant and certainly took a toll on his body playing 19-20 games a year every year. He was so...versatile and perfect for any offense that wanted balance. I haven't analyzed the record, but off the top of my head, having seen all his games, and watching football for 40 years, he is a top 10 guy and no worse than top 15 for sure. Edited April 14, 2018 by horned dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 11 hours ago, NoSaint said: Top 10 all time? I’ll say no... Top 20-25? Sure juice, brown, Campbell, Walter, sayers, Dickerson, sanders, LT, Faulk and Peterson off hand... I’m sure I forget 2-3 that could be in the 10 Thurman was as good as Tomlinson and Faulk. Peterson had a different style and not as skilled a receiver as Thurman. I think E. Smith benefited from playing behind maybe the greatest line ever for at least 5-6 years of his career. Also Smith had a relatively injury free career that allowed him to pile up yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yav Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 11 hours ago, NoSaint said: Top 10 all time? I’ll say no... Top 20-25? Sure juice, brown, Campbell, Walter, sayers, Dickerson, sanders, LT, Faulk and Peterson off hand... I’m sure I forget 2-3 that could be in the 10 Sorry, LT, Faulk and Peterson are not as good as Thurman. I’m not even sure why this has to be said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 11 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: I argued that Thurman is overlooked in the world of modern running backs and is a top 10 RB in NFL history... sure he didn’t dazzle like Barry or churn out 5 yard runs at a whack like Emmitt... but he was the most complete back of his time... his running, receiving, blocking and toughness made him the most rounded back of his Era his power / speed ratio was the best in the NFL and he was a violent runner led the NFL in yards from scrimmage an NFL record 4 consecutive seasons... an NFL MVP... a first ballot HoF As a student of the game I don’t find it foolish to say Thurman is a top 10 modern back What really made Thurman a hall of famer was the way he could do everything and did everything. Just as you say. He was sort of like Marshall Faulk before most of any were using a RB like that. i remember I was at a game ... a long time ago, and he ran a 9 or wheel. Made a diving catch where he was virtually parallel to the ground on a deep sideline ball. Few WRs could do that. Guy was a stud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 53 minutes ago, Gugny said: I took out the return specialists and thought I kept it to actual RBs. Yeah, but the actual term "yards from scrimmage" and "all purpose yards" differ, regardless of position. Ez mistake. I actually have made it myself when looking these things up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 1 minute ago, SouthNYfan said: Yeah, but the actual term "yards from scrimmage" and "all purpose yards" differ, regardless of position. Ez mistake. I actually have made it myself when looking these things up Whether he's a top 10 of all-time RB, or not, I think (hope) everyone can agree that his place in Canton is certainly well-deserved. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincec Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 3 hours ago, Wacka said: Not going to read the whole thread, but Smith's career lasted longer because he ran out of bounds a lot instead of turning it up field and getting hit. I think you mean Thurman Thomas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthNYfan Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 28 minutes ago, Gugny said: Whether he's a top 10 of all-time RB, or not, I think (hope) everyone can agree that his place in Canton is certainly well-deserved. Damn right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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