Seattle postpones Kaepernick workout b/c of kneeling?

[Sky Diver]

Hmm, no one wants to hire Kapernick because he’s not only a substandard QB, but he’s also bad for business. Shocking.

[peterpan]

23 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

No it wouldn't. He is not an employee of theirs and they can choose not to employ him for any reason that they want. It doesn't violate any rights.

You also can be fired for exercising your constitutional rights.  I could get fired for bringing a pistol to work for example. 

[C.Biscuit97]

7 hours ago, njbuff said:

 

Excellent true statement.

 

I will add,  I have black friend, who is a conservative, and married to a white woman and he gets attacked all the time by leftist morons. All of his social media accounts have been suspended too.

 

That’s the left for you.

Excellent point.  I know this girl who sex with 2 guys at once. Thus, all girls love gang bangs. It’s just makes sense!

 

and people who yell about the left and right, liberal and conservative all the time are the biggest losers in the country.  They are probably people who never played on a sports team past little league and are so desperate to be on.  If you blinding follow one side (one more choice that dictatorship, go democracy!!!), you are a mindless zombie.

11 hours ago, MakeBuffaloGreatAgain said:

Let’s make this a political thread!!! Democrats love keeping minorities in poverty and dependent on the government. They targeted minority communities to promote welfare and abortions to destroy their family culture and independence. They bring in illegals to take low skilled jobs to keep legal minorities out of work. The are the party of the KKk. They use identity politics because all of their beliefs are rooted in a racist foundation. 

 

Unemployment for minorities and women is at an all time low under Trump. Just saying. 

Haha, I respect your ignorance.  It’s so bad and stupid, it’s kinda of refreshing. 

[dollars 2 donuts]

I have no problem with this guy kneeling and I have no problem with people being upset about this guy kneeling.  He can voice his opinion and other people are allowed to voice theirs.

 

...but enough of this already.  This is American and this is an NFL caliber player who deserves a job somewhere in this League.

Edited April 14, 2018 by dollars 2 donuts

[H2o]

3 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

I have no problem with this guy kneeling and I have no problem with people being upset about this guy kneeling.  He can voice his opinion and other people are allowed to voice theirs.

 

...but enough of this already.  This is American and this is an NFL caliber player who deserves a job somewhere in this League.

He doesn't deserve anything. There is absolutely nothing he is entitled to. Hope he invested his money wisely. If he is hard up he can get a job like the rest of us. No one in the NFL has to give him a contract. No one can force a team to. Simple. Whether you agree with him or not, playing in the NFL is a privilege and not a right.

[dollars 2 donuts]

23 minutes ago, H2o said:

He doesn't deserve anything. There is absolutely nothing he is entitled to. Hope he invested his money wisely. If he is hard up he can get a job like the rest of us. No one in the NFL has to give him a contract. No one can force a team to. Simple. Whether you agree with him or not, playing in the NFL is a privilege and not a right.

 

Indeed and I agree 100%, it's why you and I don't play in the league, and skill trumps everything else, otherwise let's throw everybody out of the league who beats his girlfriend, does drugs or drives drunk.

 

I don't mind there being a standard, H2O. It's the double standard that is the problem.

 

...and this coming from someone who has been a red dog republican for more than 31 years now.

Edited April 14, 2018 by dollars 2 donuts

[H2o]

1 hour ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

 

Indeed and I agree 100%, it's why you and I don't play in the league, and skill trumps everything else, otherwise let's throw everybody out of the league who beats his girlfriend, does drugs or drives drunk.

 

I don't mind there being a standard, H2O. It's the double standard that is the problem.

 

...and this coming from someone who has been a red dog republican for more than 31 years now.

And I understand your point as well. Me personally, I don't care if he stands or sits or kneels. But in doing this, he has brought these repercussions upon himself. The owners feel like he will cost them more than he is worth monetarily or press wise. If it was Aaron Rodgers then it would be different. It's not though, it is a lower tier starting or upper level backup QB. They have the right to tell you to protest on your own time, not the time they are paying you for. 

[dollars 2 donuts]

5 minutes ago, H2o said:

And I understand your point as well. Me personally, I don't care if he stands or sits or kneels. But in doing this, he has brought these repercussions upon himself. The owners feel like he will cost them more than he is worth monetarily or press wise. If it was Aaron Rodgers then it would be different. It's not though, it is a lower tier starting or upper level backup QB. They have the right to tell you to protest on your own time, not the time they are paying you for. 

 

I absolutely hear you and great points.

 

Additionally, i know I am probably wrong with this point, but why do I have this feeling that once he's back in the league this sort of martyrdom phase will be over?

 

 

[Green Lightning]

On 4/14/2018 at 6:05 AM, Dr.Sack said:

 

One anecdote means all judicial decisions from this court are void. Got it.  

Of all the cases the Supreme Court hears from the 9th circuit, they reversed 79% of them. It's a court that acts on politics not the facts of the case. They are not the worst though, the circuit in Kentucky has a worse record. That's the other side of the coin. That's just how divided we are.

Edited April 15, 2018 by Green Lightning

[HOUSE]

At some point fans will realize this is not a good QB anymore

 

Just like Vince Young(who didn't kneel) there is no interest.

 

IF Kaepernick (in a QB starved league) was truly a good QB, he would be starting

 

Take it to the bank

[Dr.Sack]

4 hours ago, Green Lightning said:

Of all the cases the Supreme Court hears from the 9th circuit, they reversed 79% of them. It's a court that acts on politics not the facts of the case. They are not the worst though, the circuit in Kentucky has a worse record. That's the other side of the coin. That's just how divided we are.

The SCOTUS overturns about 70% of all US circuit cases so the 9th is hardly an outlier. The Supreme Court hears 150 of 8,000 cases it’s asked to listen to per year. I highly doubt that Kaepernick’s case no matter the outcome will reach the SCOTUS.

[Mikie2times]

You can't make hiring and firing decisions based on protected class. For example I can't fire an FMLA employee for never being at work when they are using FMLA (so long as the FMLA use is within guidelines). FMLA protects the absenteeism. I think where people get confused is protected class/consistency in internal processes.

 

Seattle did nothing wrong and can choose as a company not to hire employees who kneel during the national anthem. They do get exposure however when they don't apply that same standard to all employees. That exposure isn't direct but it's exposure most employers like to avoid.  For example if you hired a QB who refused to stand during the national anthem now CK could file a lawsuit stating he wasn't hired based on the color of his skin. That would be a protected class issue. Now it would be up to the employer to prove that not hiring him had nothing to do with the lawsuits allegations (skin color). They would also be in a bit of a pinch trying to justify kneeling as cause for not hiring him because they hired another person who they did not apply that same standard with. 

 

These are the murky areas companies don't like to find themselves in. It can be hard for the employer to prove why exceptions were made for one and not the other. Employers hate exceptions. They like to treat everybody the same because it eliminates peoples ability to play the protected class card as much as possible. It still doesn't eliminate it. If it's a bigger company they will likely just settle with the employee even if the accusation is baseless. It's just not worth the legal fees. I've seen it happen multiple times where an employee sued my employer for protected class termination, had zero leg to stand on, and we just settled because it wasn't worth dealing with.    

Edited April 16, 2018 by KzooMike

[IDBillzFan]

On 4/13/2018 at 8:47 AM, MJS said:

If he was a better player he would be on a team. No matter what.

 

It's my hope that one day every SJW who keeps barking that Kaep is being black-balled will wake up to this simple, basic truth.

 

The NFL doesn't care if you beat your wife, get involved in a murder, or fight dogs before putting a bullet in their head and burying them in your backyard...as long as you can perform.

 

Anyone who thinks the problem with Kaep is his kneeling hasn't been paying attention.

 

He simple isn't good enough to make a team AND bring his ridiculous baggage.

 

End of story. Anyone who thinks differently has an agenda. Like, say, all the sports journalists who keep comparing him to Ali.