Scorp83 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 41 minutes ago, Teddy KGB said: You should bring up Tyrod’s stats as opposed to this race bs. He really stunk last year, the race card can’t save him. Lamar Jackson has some elite tools but needs some refinement as a consistent passer. The jew can sling that thing. Draft him. I'm not the biggest Tyrod fan... but when you take away the thing he does well & try & make him into something he's not... what did you expect was going to happen? Him sucking wasn't all on him... This is my issue with McBeane... I love that they process everything but at the same time... you can miss the boat on alot of things over thinking too long. The OC should have been hired but Derm took long trying to get one... & had to settle on Dennison who obviously wasn't his 1st choice. Then your newly hired GM trade away the one guy that helped Tyrod... Tyrod isn't that type of QB that does 3 steps drops, then get the ball out quick... Lamar Jackson does that( but this isn't about him lol)... Was it race? I don't know cause they knew he couldn't do the job they asked of him yet they forced it... I'm still trying to figure that out. Now when Rex was here they played to his strengths... Derm didn't. It was just bad from the gate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloSol Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 26 minutes ago, Scorp83 said: Sad... so sad... but hey that's your opinion What do you think my Opinion is and what do you think is Sad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodman19 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Funny, I don't remember people crying race when we were ready to run Fitzpatrick out of town for mediocre QB play. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, CamboBill said: Despite it's tragic history and bad image it is becoming an increasingly popular target for early retirees due to low cost of living, easy visa setup, and friendly locals. Petty crime and cleanliness are unfortunately other matters entirely. Just an FYI readers "friendly locals" = "young women available to old people". Why am I with the attitude you might ask? Because of "Hi, I am the football fan in Cambodia, and lot's of y'all are racists by the way" is why. Edited March 28, 2018 by BadLandsMeanie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yungmack Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) Welcome aboard. Good post. If you've been lurking, you know there are a few posters who are just cranky, a few who are naturally contrary, and a few who are indeed who are, shall we say, "race-sensitive." But the overwhelming majority are none of those things. We may be all over the place with our opinions, our knowledge, our passion for this player over that one. But most are just sincere Bills fans who want the best for our team as we each see it. The choleric minority can sometimes overshadow this fact. I guess what I'm saying is, Don't let them get you down. Keep on posting and contributing. Edited March 28, 2018 by yungmack 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 How dare you be positive about TT and talk about racism. Everyone knows there is no racism in America except against the white man. Lol!!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 I am not okay with letting the Jets get Rosen. If their target is Allen, we don't have to move up to 2. If it's Rosen, we absolutely have to pay the premium to move up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: How dare you be positive about TT and talk about racism. Everyone knows there is no racism in America except against the white man. Lol!!!!!! Another ned classic. Dude is EPIC poster status. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 3 hours ago, CamboBill said: Thanks. I like Rosen too but fear he might be the next Sam Bradford. My rankings: 1) D'arnold floor: Andy Dalton Ceiling: Eli Manning 2) Rosen flloor: Sam Bradford Ceiling: Phil Rivers 3) Jackson: Floor: Vince Young Ceiling: Steve Young 4) Allen Floor: B Bortles Ceiling: Ben Rothlusberger 5) Mayfield. Floor: Case Keenum Ceiling: D Brees But I could live with any. Mostly how I see it as well. I'd switch Cutler to Darnold's floor instead of Dalton. And put in Doug Flutie (the good one with the Bills) as Mayfield's floor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricojes Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 13 minutes ago, joesixpack said: Another ned classic. Dude is EPIC poster status. EPIC indeed...Good thing he adds the "lol" or we might think he's serious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamboBill Posted March 28, 2018 Author Share Posted March 28, 2018 1 hour ago, BadLandsMeanie said: Just an FYI readers "friendly locals" = "young women available to old people". Why am I with the attitude you might ask? Because of "Hi, I am the football fan in Cambodia, and lot's of y'all are racists by the way" is why. Friendly locals means no such thing. It means that people are receptive to western foreigners as opposed to xenophobic. There are plenty of SEX tourists in Southeast Asia but Thailand is the main destination for that. Most are passing through rather than living here. Many are in their 30s ... not the old man stereotype. People who live hear tend to have wives within at least 10 hears their age, and live very simple lives. Life is good here, you should take your mind out of the gutter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxxxxxxx Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 2 hours ago, BuffaloSol said: You are proving your own point concerning identity politics, you are making the assumption that only "Mr. Rosen" is "speaking out." Critiques are clearly warranted and happen all the time in the US, just because you don't like someone's belief or critique does not make it less of a critique. Here is the definition of Identity politics-a tendency for people of a particular religion, race, social background, etc., to form exclusive political alliances, moving away from traditional broad-based party politics. (you are also clearly making the assumption that I am on one of two sides of the main US political identities. I am not.) When critiques are described as being delusional and impolite, from the get go, your not engaging in dialogue, or contributing to a community, your trying to silence people. This thread was started by a poster who wanted to have an honest conversation about identity politics and QB evaluation, and those concerns are valid (especially because Capernick seems to have been black balled from the league, while lots of QB's who are way worse than he is have backup jobs). Such conversations involve critiques, inevitably, that will make some people uncomfortable. If those critiques bother some fans, I can't fathom why they would want to participate in this conversation, outside of trying to shut the conversation down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamboBill Posted March 28, 2018 Author Share Posted March 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Chuck Wagon said: All I'm going to say is there's certainly coded language (blue collar, etc) that goes with nearly every argument of the people who want Mayfield over Rosen. That is sort of my thinking too ... and with Jackson two on the "pocket passer" stereotype Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxxxxxxx Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 4 hours ago, Bill from NYC said: I'm curious. If "most people" on this board are such a despicable lot, do you care to tell us why you post here? I'm going to venture a guess, OK? I am thinking that you have come to enlighten us with your abundance of football knowledge and insight. Am I close? If so, thanks. I'm not sure how we survived sans your bevy of wonderful information. And the same could be said for why you want to participate in this thread, when they are plenty of others. I welcome the posters views, and would appreciate it if you could respectfully disagree, and perhaps start your own thread if you want to complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigK14094 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Welcome I had a taste of being a Bills fan in Asia for one year. (Japan) Not easy, as games are on in the middle of the night if you want to watch live. NFL.com allows purchase of games on line if the web address is outside the USA if I recall correctly. But, mostly I watched recorded a day late in an American club while eating dinner, so it was a good experience. You make interesting point about Rosen.....but, I didn't even know he was Jewish until you mentioned it. That fact remains of no interest to me however, as I don't think that kind of marketing thinking (land in NY, Miami or LA) goes into the draft process anyhow. They do check character, but not what church the guy goes to. Same w the racism angle....the NFL is majority black these days, and nobody cares if a QB candidate is black or white....just can he play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxxxxxxx Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 3 hours ago, CamboBill said: Yeah ... it is the Internet so you anticipate meeting all types of people. This place is pretty opinionated (as it should be) but not as savage as other forums I have seen. In fact the Tyrod Saga was really the only ongoing divisive topic this year. I understood people saying we need better when it came to Tyrod .... but Nate Peterman a rookie 5th round pick ... still smh. Anyway it is water on the bridge ... but when I see the same arguments against Lamar Jackson, I cringe a little bit. Never involved with Air America. And when I see a thread which claims that Mills sabotaged the San Diego game and deliberately ruined Peterman's career, because he was mad about Tyrod's benching I cringe (alot). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, MURPHD6 said: And the same could be said for why you want to participate in this thread, when they are plenty of others. I welcome the posters views, and would appreciate it if you could respectfully disagree, and perhaps start your own thread if you want to complain. 14,895 posts ------>>>>>>>> 108 posts Bill has been here a long long time . He is as frustrated like the most of us, with the newbie know it all gang who came over from the other now defunct message boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadLandsMeanie Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, CamboBill said: Friendly locals means no such thing. It means that people are receptive to western foreigners as opposed to xenophobic. There are plenty of SEX tourists in Southeast Asia but Thailand is the main destination for that. Most are passing through rather than living here. Many are in their 30s ... not the old man stereotype. People who live hear tend to have wives within at least 10 hears their age, and live very simple lives. Life is good here, you should take your mind out of the gutter. Oh I didn't mean to offend. And I didn't mean specifically you. But as you say even in your reply here, a goodly percentage of Western men fitting your general profile, both tourists and expatriates, do travel there to live outside of laws governing what we here would consider to be depraved behaviors. So in the spirit of your post, which I will paraphrase here : (I am) Not suggesting that [all critics of Tyrol are racist,] expatriates living in souteast Asia are there to exploit the vulnerable, but I am wondering, particularly how your not being in [Buffalo] America for many years, how much [race] sexual depravity and the availability of meagerly paid exploited domestic workers, is a factor in [anti-Tyrod sentiments] your general demographic group deciding to live there. So as you can see I was merely hoping to broaden the open honest dispassionate discussion. Or put another way, if you don't like it, don't start it. 12 minutes ago, CamboBill said: That is sort of my thinking too ... and with Jackson two on the "pocket passer" stereotype You are on to something here. Similar to the baseball stereotypes of can hit the ball, or can pitch the ball. Or the basketball ones of "can rebound or can hit the hoop and score points" Much to be suspicious of here. Even within football itself, no one ever criticizes a running back for being able to run the ball. They only complain when they can not. They do not point out that lack of being able to run with football can be offset by a remarkable ability to pass. It is the glaring elephant in the room about how no one even ever mentions that a running back can not read the defense or throw the ball with accuracy. It is if because most running backs are black, people don't even EXPECT that they can throw the ball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxxxxxxx Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) 24 minutes ago, ddaryl said: 14,895 posts ------>>>>>>>> 108 posts Bill has been here a long long time . He is as frustrated like the most of us, with the newbie know it all gang who came over from the other now defunct message boards. The situation you are describing ironically paralles the identity politics situation that is currently brewing in the US, quite nicely. All those young, disrespectful know it alls criticizing all of us old timers are delusional and disrespectful, when a baby boomer president is trying to build a wall around our country while being sued by a pornstar. If you want to complaon about disrespect and identity politics your looking in the wrong direction. Edited March 28, 2018 by MURPHD6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, MURPHD6 said: The situation you are describing ironically paralles the identity politics situation that is currently brewing in the US, quite nicely. All those young, disrespectful know it alls criticizing all of us old timers are delusional and disrespectful, when a baby boomer president is trying to build a wall around our country while being sued by a pornstar. If you want to complaon about disrespect and identity politics your looking in the wrong direction. LMAO OK.. you really went for a bizzare parallel here.. nice political rant don't bring that crap here Edited March 28, 2018 by ddaryl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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