DFT Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Just now, HappyDays said: Actually Petrino helped him develop his passing game quite a bit. Here's a really good article about it: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2662128-the-education-of-lamar-jackson-how-louisville-qb-went-from-project-to-superstar Love the article, but we’ll Agree to disagree. My opinion is he developed him to fit his program. He left a lot on the table for future development. We haven’t even scratched the surface of what this kid can do. I mean no disrespect to Coach P, either, because it’s so easy for me to critique the job he did, from my office, without putting in any effort outside of a key stroke, but I would have loved to see him a bit more developed, mechanically. We’ll see though. I’m very high on him as a developmental project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Cool story. Then apparently there's nothing to discuss. You're right it is a great story! Unless you are an NFL scout and are correct and they're all wrong. Maybe you're Chris Trapasso. There is no argument otherwise that Rudolph is so much better talent than our 5th round guy he should go with #12. Edited March 21, 2018 by horned dogs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Personally I'd take Lamar at 12 since he will be gone by 22. Rudolph might be there in the early 2nd round. I think LJ has a higher ceiling. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Costa Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 I think Jackson has as good of a chance as the top 4 guys in being a franchise QB. I would be happy if Bills get him with either pick in round 1. Rudolph to me would be a solid pick with our second round picks. I also like Mike White with pick 65 if we take BPA with our first 4 picks. The Bills are much higher in Peterman than I am. But that has to be included in the overall thought process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 19 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: He's bigger, stronger, a better leader, throws a more accurate ball. Your turn. Bigger - yes Stronger - who knows Better Leader - unlikely given McCarron's college career More Accurate - debatable Rudolph looks like a mid round prospect. He doesn't have any elite traits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RochesterRob Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Buffalo Bills Detective said: And what has Mike White done to deserve 2nd round consideration? Good prototype in terms of height and weight. Good if not spectacular completion percentage and TD's in his junior and senior seasons. Level of competition hurts so second round and likely bottom half of that round. We have the first pick of the third round so he may very well be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 45 minutes ago, chris heff said: John Elway had 33 rushing TDS and rushed for 3400 yards. In 16 NFL seasons? I wouldn't call that a "running QB." 45 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: Take White in the 2nd and temper the expectations. We have close to 100M next year and could trade picks to a team facing a salary issue and needing to unload a QB or would be willing to trade a QB. Far better value in players we can use such as with Vea or R Smith. Don't reach with your 12 or 22. Buffalo Bills fans have been tempering expectations for decades. Continuing that won't make the team better by taking a lesser ranked prospect and/or a LB/DT/WR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 If Rudolph goes in the first round I will totally eat crow and admit that I am wrong. I just hope all the supporters do the same when he goes in the third or fourth round and we never hear of him again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Such a limited argument. Hard to take the guy seriously when all he talks about is completion percentage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 24 minutes ago, DFT said: Love the article, but we’ll Agree to disagree. My opinion is he developed him to fit his program. He left a lot on the table for future development. We haven’t even scratched the surface of what this kid can do. I mean no disrespect to Coach P, either, because it’s so easy for me to critique the job he did, from my office, without putting in any effort outside of a key stroke, but I would have loved to see him a bit more developed, mechanically. We’ll see though. I’m very high on him as a developmental project. That's fair, but every QB in the 1st round will need some development. Darnold needs to work on his throwing motion and interceptions, Rosen on not taking big hits in the pocket, Mayfield on his footwork, etc. With Daboll here Jackson should be able to fit into our offensive system. I've come around to seeing him as my favorite QB in the 1st round. Especially since we don't need to give up anything to get him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 7 minutes ago, BillsVet said: In 16 NFL seasons? I wouldn't call that a "running QB." Buffalo Bills fans have been tempering expectations for decades. Continuing that won't make the team better by taking a lesser ranked prospect and/or a LB/DT/WR. And when has reaching ever worked? Whitner? McCargo? Maybin? Just as easy to reach at QB as it is at other positions. We were more than a QB away during the decade of darkness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFT Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Just now, HappyDays said: That's fair, but every QB in the 1st round will need some development. Darnold needs to work on his throwing motion and interceptions, Rosen on not taking big hits in the pocket, Mayfield on his footwork, etc. With Daboll here Jackson should be able to fit into our offensive system. I've come around to seeing him as my favorite QB in the 1st round. Especially since we don't need to give up anything to get him. Agreed! Gives the organization a chance to see what they have in their other two guys, while Jackson develops. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 19 minutes ago, jrober38 said: Rudolph looks like a mid round prospect. He doesn't have any elite traits. Oh. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Oh. He doesn't have any elite traits. Aside from size, everything he does is just average. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 1 minute ago, jrober38 said: He doesn't have any elite traits. Aside from size, everything he does is just average. He was an elite college quarterback. Much more so than Rosen, Darnold, and Allen. You can't be an elite college quarterback without elite traits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob's House Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Rudolph because McCarron needs a solid back up, or Jackson because he needs someone to throw to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFT Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 Just now, Wayne Arnold said: He was an elite college quarterback. Much more so than Rosen, Darnold, and Allen. You can't be an elite college quarterback without elite traits. Boy, you sure can, but I get your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrober38 Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: He was an elite college quarterback. Much more so than Rosen, Darnold, and Allen. You can't be an elite college quarterback without elite traits. Timmy Chang and Colt Brennan disgree. I don't think he was elite. He was a good Big XII QB similar to Landry Jones or Bryce Petty. They weren't elite either, and were both 4th round picks. I agree that none of Rosen, Darnold or Allen were elite either. Not sure any of them are a slam dunk, and I think Allen is going to be a colossal bust. Edited March 21, 2018 by jrober38 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRUSHx Posted March 21, 2018 Share Posted March 21, 2018 28 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said: Great video thanks for sharing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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