SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 FWIW I hate extremely conservative It has the potential to lose games Exactly.Just looking at stats and then saying "look at this" doesn't tell the story.... but it's what people do to fit their narrative.They've done it essentially every game since week 1 in which they've had the lead.I thought it would cost them the Falcons game but the defense held. The Oakland game was a little frustrating but they were in control of the game so it's hard to argue.My point all along has been Tyrod is solid. He's not great, he has his warts but he's solid. He's A LOT like an Alex Smith in that respect.That said, I'm all for a 1st round QB while keeping Taylor aboard. How many draft picks would you be willing to offer to get a top 3 pick? 2 or 3 s/b safe with Cleveland picking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I believe I heard the announcers say that The Bills have scored Zero TD's in the 1st QTR all season. oh look Why Bills have NFLs fewest points in first quarter I thought you were incessantly banging the drum that he needs to be good late when we're behind like he was vs the Bucs? Or that he needs to be better on 3rd downs? He currently has the 6th best 3rd down conversion % in the NFL when passing. And that doesn't even account for the 3rd downs he's converted with his legs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) For a guy who seems to be following my posts you sure don't pay attention. I have not posted about 3rd downs in over a month, so go ahead and keep playing the fool. We need to be great EVERY quarter. feel better now? No TD's in the 1st QRT isn't worrisome to you? Edited November 1, 2017 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 For a guy who seems to be following my posts you sure don't pay attention. I have not posted about 3rd downs in over a month, so go ahead and keep playing the fool. We need to be great EVERY quarter. WE NEED A FLAWLESS QB!!!! Yeah, that'd be wonderful. Not ever happening, though. You asked and pounded the table for some specific improvements from Taylor in the offseason. Looks like he's improving in those specific areas, but you don't spend time talking about those things you so desperately wanted to see, instead, well.... EEEEYOOOORRREEE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Here's how I think about it. Taylor is not a great passer. Yep, his passer and QBR ratings can look good but we all know he can't lead a team down the field with his arm the way a Brees, Brady or Rodgers can. But Taylor can be a cog in an efficient offensive machine. We saw that last year. We're seeing that again this year the past couple games. The guy does throw some beautiful passes here and there. His scrambling/running talent is spectacular. And he's a competitor. If we draft the next JK, great! If not, I'm good with TT under center. I believe we can get to the playoffs with a TT led offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 thanks for admitting to being an EEEEYOOOORRREEE Now, if you want to talk rationally instead of stalking me .... We could discuss the issue or DEFERRING the ball every damn game as being a possible reason. on second thought never mind, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 For a guy who seems to be following my posts you sure don't pay attention. I have not posted about 3rd downs in over a month, so go ahead and keep playing the fool. We need to be great EVERY quarter. feel better now? No TD's in the 1st QRT isn't worrisome to you? What are your thoughts on Andrew Luck? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 What are your thoughts on Andrew Luck? Yes. He's being wasted in Indy just like Peyton was in his early years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) I believe I heard the announcers say that The Bills have scored Zero TD's in the 1st QTR all season. oh look Why Bills have NFLs fewest points in first quarter After that we are... 2nd quarter 10th 3rd quarter 12th 4th quarter 10th https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/4th-quarter-points-per-game Edited November 1, 2017 by Scott7975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Yes. He's being wasted in Indy just like Peyton was in his early years. In 2016, in the 1st quarter Luck had a 67.1 passer rating and threw 4 TDs/5 INTs (15 games started). Ill skip 2015 because he was injured but his 1st quarter stats were even worse that year. In 2014, in the 1st quarter he had an 81.5 passer rating and threw 7 TDs/4 INTs (16 games started). So I guess this means Luck isnt good enough since he sucks in the 1st quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mat68 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Do both. Build around Taylor and bring in a young guy with some potential. I dont think we need to trade the farm for a qb but they can package a pick or 2 for the right guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) After that we are... 2nd quarter 10th 3rd quarter 12th 4th quarter 10th https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/4th-quarter-points-per-game I'm not a fan of deferring all the time. Get the lead and hold onto the damn thing. People hear that crap on TV and assume we suck because we can't score. (shh don't tell anyone I'm defending TT) PPg have been down, but we've seen an uptick. Lets keep that rolling. (I was a bit disappointed at the opening 2nd half drive Sunday) In 2016, in the 1st quarter Luck had a 67.1 passer rating and threw 4 TDs/5 INTs (15 games started). Ill skip 2015 because he was injured but his 1st quarter stats were even worse that year. In 2014, in the 1st quarter he had an 81.5 passer rating and threw 7 TDs/4 INTs (16 games started). So I guess this means Luck isnt good enough since he sucks in the 1st quarter. I held back in my last post because I wasn't sure it you were a Luck fan or not. Heaven forbid I criticize him. Impressed, I am not, with Andrew Luck. Yet, my comment holds true. Indy is a poorly managed team. also , if oh look wasn't a clue that I was being a wise ass.... Edited November 1, 2017 by ShadyBillsFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DefenseWins Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Tyrod Taylor 2017 Wk Opp A/C YDS TD 1 NYJ 16/28 224 2 2 Caro 17/25 125 0 3 Denv 20/26 213 2 4 Atl 12/20 182 1 5 Cinc 20/37 166 1 6 Bye 7 TBay 20/33 268 1 8 Oak 20/27 165 1 Are the Bills winning these games because of Taylors QB skills or are they winning because of their DEFENSE? Be honest here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Tyrod Taylor 2017 Wk Opp A/C YDS TD 1 NYJ 16/28 224 2 2 Caro 17/25 125 0 3 Denv 20/26 213 2 4 Atl 12/20 182 1 5 Cinc 20/37 166 1 6 Bye 7 TBay 20/33 268 1 8 Oak 20/27 165 1 Are the Bills winning these games because of Taylors QB skills or are they winning because of their DEFENSE? Be honest here... Both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleAndHungry Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 We have enough picks to surround Taylor and still select a qb high .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPP Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Tyrod Taylor 2017 Wk Opp A/C YDS TD 1 NYJ 16/28 224 2 2 Caro 17/25 125 0 3 Denv 20/26 213 2 4 Atl 12/20 182 1 5 Cinc 20/37 166 1 6 Bye 7 TBay 20/33 268 1 8 Oak 20/27 165 1 Are the Bills winning these games because of Taylors QB skills or are they winning because of their DEFENSE? Be honest here... Both sometimes moreso the defence in some games sometimes the offence in others......some advice....watch the actual games instead of analyzing stats and you come to your own conclusion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Both. ....aren't you defying the "logic(COUGH)" of the renowned "300 Yard Club"??.................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 ....aren't you defying the "logic(COUGH)" of the renowned "300 Yard Club"??.................... The special club that guarantees you win the game (with the exception of about 15 games this season). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 The special club that guarantees you win the game (with the exception of about 15 games this season). ....yup, them....and they certainly are "special"........................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Tyrod Taylor 2017 Wk Opp A/C YDS TD 1 NYJ 16/28 224 2 2 Caro 17/25 125 0 3 Denv 20/26 213 2 4 Atl 12/20 182 1 5 Cinc 20/37 166 1 6 Bye 7 TBay 20/33 268 1 8 Oak 20/27 165 1 Are the Bills winning these games because of Taylors QB skills or are they winning because of their DEFENSE? Be honest here... IMO the Defense is helping this team Win games. i of which I pointed to was the ATL game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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