Buffalo Boy Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) Dont you think that has to do more with personnel then him?There were a couple he missed , I called it during the game( Atlanta) that he just has to hit. Maybe that is what I'm confusing on the Clay passes. There was no safety within ten yards, CB was on the outside and he dropped the ball on the outside when the inside was wide open and there for the taking.The kind of pass we see Brady shred us on repeatedly. Edited October 9, 2017 by Buffalo Boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grb Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) You got me..... but in my defense, I may have been self medicating with a frothy beverage.... or three Off topic joke : Every day a guy goes into a bar and orders up three shots in a row and downs them all. After weeks of this the bartender asks : What's with the three shots thing? The guy says two are for my two brothers, who are fighting overseas. Then the guy comes in and orders two shots. With a sinking feeling, the bartender asks if his brothers are OK Sure, the guy replies. But I quit drinking. Edited October 9, 2017 by grb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 He was wide open on neither. It's not a good thing that Taylor is only willing to attempt big boy passes to Clay. (Especially considering Clay is out for at least the next five games.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) It means they rushed him into starting and he got clobbered , never recovered, and had to transfer to PittsburghHis lack of recovery wasn't very apparent this pre season unless that is what caused him to get the ball out ASAP. Admittedly, whether or not he can stretch the field remains to be seen. He can hit the short stuff with precision though and on a WCO that is important. Off topic joke : Every day a guy goes into a bar and orders up three shots in a row and downs them all. After weeks of this the bartender asks : What's with the three shots thing? The guy says two are for my two brothers, who are fighting overseas. Then the guy comes in and orders two shots. With a sinking feeling, the bartender asks if his brothers are OK Sure, the guy replies. But I quit drinking. Consider your joke stolen😂 A burger walks into a bar and says , " Bartender, give me a beer." The bartender replies, " Sorry, we don't serve food here." Edited October 9, 2017 by Buffalo Boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Sigh. You made you pull out the calculator, damn you. Plus-twenty yard pass plays AFTER Cincinnati : Taylor : 12 out of 136. Taylor : .088 Dak : .073 Russell : .084 Deshaun : .103 Rodgers : .089 Stafford : .064 Rivers : .072 Alex S : .089 I appreciate you looking this up but like I said previously, pushing the ball downfield doesnt have to mean throwing it deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 His lack of recovery wasn't very apparent this pre season unless that is what caused him to get the ball out ASAP. Admittedly, whether or not he can stretch the field remains to be seen. He can hit the short stuff with precision though and on a WCO that is important. You are missing the point. He is still green. The last time he was thrust in when he was green it went very badly. If he has any chance of developing he must do it in practice first. Jeff Tuel got rid of the ball fast too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Available personnel or lack thereof is a big part of the equation. It doesn't mean he's suddenly incapable of making deep throws. I dont disagree to that point but he still has to find a way to try and move the ball through the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) You are missing the point. He is still green. The last time he was thrust in when he was green it went very badly. If he has any chance of developing he must do it in practice first. Jeff Tuel got rid of the ball fast too... I hope you can admit that Peterman looks better than Tuel.I get the whole, he's not ready thing but you don't know until you try. The kid has a moxie about him that is surprising for a rookie. Couple that with the recognition by many " Experts" as being the most Pro Ready QB in the past draft. Edited October 9, 2017 by Buffalo Boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 You are missing the point. He is still green. The last time he was thrust in when he was green it went very badly. If he has any chance of developing he must do it in practice first. Jeff Tuel got rid of the ball fast too... I'm not sure what's going on but every time I see you post, it's blank. Is it my server or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I'm not sure what's going on but every time I see you post, it's blank. Is it my server or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I'm not sure what's going on but every time I see you post, it's blank. Is it my server or something? That's weird... The Russians???? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) You are missing the point. He is still green. The last time he was thrust in when he was green it went very badly. If he has any chance of developing he must do it in practice first. Jeff Tuel got rid of the ball fast too... Peterman is seeing the football field very well for a rookie and made his time under center during the preseason look like just another day at the office IMO. Nathan Peterman and Jeff Tuel are miles apart... Edited October 9, 2017 by Figster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Peterman is seeing the football field very well for a rookie and made his time under center during the preseason look like just another day at the office IMO. Except when he faced pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) If I use the reply function on my iPhone, half the time it doesn't attach to the original quote and ends up two or three spaces down so I use the edit function instead....... or maybe you blocked me at the end of the Moron or Rex eras when I was being weenyish? Like this, four below the original quote Edited October 9, 2017 by Buffalo Boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Peterman is seeing the football field very well for a rookie and made his time under center during the preseason look like just another day at the office IMO. Well he came from an offense where he was under center all the time. He should be comfortable He needs to adjust to the speed. Not pre season speed. Real NFL speed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctk232 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 At the end of the day Taylor simply isn't a fit for this offense and what Dennison/McD are trying to do. They have been fortunate to win with smoke and mirrors so far and I certainly don't blame Taylor for the injuries that are piling up right on cue this time of year in Buffalo, but at the end of the day you have to give your offensive skill players a chance and Taylor doesn't do that. The book is out on this offense and the days of seeing McCoy and the running game go for 150+ a week are long over and not coming back until we can prove we can get the ball downfield and find guys in the middle open. And once again Taylor proved he can't lead a 4th quarter comeback and turned the ball over the first chance he's actually taken in weeks. It's time for a change and both fans and the Bills organization is kidding themselves if they believe otherwise. We're 3-2, I know others have said here, but that's pretty good in the league right now. Is 4-1 better? Sure, so's 5-0, point is they aren't in a place to just hand it over when they've only played 5 games with TT in their new offense. Everything's still taking shape. And idk what you mean by offensive skill players...right now Shady is the only one. Clay finally showed up this year, but he went down yesterday. Matthews is our only WR skill player by default but having watched him in Philly every week prior to his trade and my personal move across the country, he's a solid WR2 on a playoff worthy team. And he can't lead a 4th quarter comeback 100% of the time. It's more the lack of consistency in getting an offense to convert first downs more than 60% of your possessions. I can't remember the last time I watched out offense take the field and feel confident in the fact that they will move the ball. But again, new year, system, and plenty of injuries providing variables. Just wait and see what comes out the other end of the bye week. Two weeks to prepare for TB at home (two roommates are bucs fans and this is a very beatable team, but easy to lose to if we don't come out focused). Great trial game for us to see how the new regime handles regrouping at the bye week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 I hope you can admit that Peterman looks better than Tuel. I get the whole, he's not ready thing but you don't know until you try. The kid has a moxie about him that is surprising for a rookie. Couple that with the recognition by many " Experts" as being the most Pro Ready QB in the past draft. He's pro ready because he spent tons of time under center in a pro style offense. He was almost viewed as a guaranteed backup. He has a high floor. He is ready to be a backup right now He needs to adjust to the speed of the game. Let him sit a year. Look what it did for simian. He is obviously a better QB than Jeff Tuel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 Well he came from an offense where he was under center all the time. He should be comfortable He needs to adjust to the speed. Not pre season speed. Real NFL speed I think Ravens 1st line of defenders were coming at N Peterman with bad intentions during the preseason and the concerned look on the face of the opposing DC on the opposite sideline said it all as the kid continued to make plays against them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 We're 3-2, I know others have said here, but that's pretty good in the league right now. Is 4-1 better? Sure, so's 5-0, point is they aren't in a place to just hand it over when they've only played 5 games with TT in their new offense. Everything's still taking shape. And idk what you mean by offensive skill players...right now Shady is the only one. Clay finally showed up this year, but he went down yesterday. Matthews is our only WR skill player by default but having watched him in Philly every week prior to his trade and my personal move across the country, he's a solid WR2 on a playoff worthy team. And he can't lead a 4th quarter comeback 100% of the time. It's more the lack of consistency in getting an offense to convert first downs more than 60% of your possessions. I can't remember the last time I watched out offense take the field and feel confident in the fact that they will move the ball. But again, new year, system, and plenty of injuries providing variables. Just wait and see what comes out the other end of the bye week. Two weeks to prepare for TB at home (two roommates are bucs fans and this is a very beatable team, but easy to lose to if we don't come out focused). Great trial game for us to see how the new regime handles regrouping at the bye week. Seven of sixteen AFC teams are 3-2. No 4-1 and one 5-0. Today's NFL which gives the illusion of having a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 9, 2017 Share Posted October 9, 2017 (edited) He was a 4.54 guy with a low of 4.44. He could run. Not a huge speed guy of course but 4.5 at 6-5 is a dangerous player. He could get open, too. I think Ravens 1st line of defenders were coming at N Peterman with bad intentions during the preseason and the concerned look on the face of the opposing DC on the opposite sideline said it all as the kid continued to make plays against them.Even McDermott said it's just preseason. It means nothing. It will end up badly for the kid if we throw him to the wolves with no line, no run game and no reliable receivers. It was preseason. He was a 5th round pick. Let him sit. 1st round QBs used to sit back in the day Edited October 9, 2017 by Buffalo716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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