26CornerBlitz Posted December 6, 2017 Author Share Posted December 6, 2017 Good to see Jarrah shunted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 On 11/19/2017 at 12:07 AM, cba fan said: Lets not make crap up. Goodell did nothing to help keep Bills in Buffalo. At best he was neutral but make no mistake, the Bills were going to high bidder regardless of whether they wanted to eventually move the Bills. It was all Pegs that saved the Bills for Buffalo. I am sure it pissed off Jerry Jones who openly commented the team needed to look at a higher potential revenue area like Toronto. Don't forget about Ralph Wilson and the language he had put into the trust. It brought the bids down substantially because moving the team was going to be difficult , the team was worth less $$ in Buffalo. Pegulas overbid just kind of sealed the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Goodell Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 I’d like to thank the entire ownership group for their continued support, and all the fans who have demonstrated their encouragement and appreciation. I look forward to continuing the process of evolving and improving the NFL experience for our players and fans alike for many years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 7, 2017 Author Share Posted December 7, 2017 3 minutes ago, Roger Goodell said: I’d like to thank the entire ownership group for their continued support, and all the fans who have demonstrated their encouragement and appreciation. I look forward to continuing the process of evolving and improving the NFL experience for our players and fans alike for many years to come. You sir are overpaid. Cheers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koko78 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Roger Goodell said: I’d like to thank the entire ownership group for their continued support, and all the fans who have demonstrated their encouragement and appreciation. I look forward to continuing the process of evolving and improving the NFL experience for our players and fans alike for many years to come. All 4 of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Roger gets the big bucks! AGAIN! Cheers, drinks on Roger! He can afford a round for the stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted December 7, 2017 Author Share Posted December 7, 2017 8 hours ago, Augie said: Roger gets the big bucks! AGAIN! Cheers, drinks on Roger! He can afford a round for the stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr. WEO Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Two kinds of people in the world: money makers and money takers. Goodell is the former, Brees the latter. Jerry crushed by his peers. He blew all of his capital on some dopey RB. Foolish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris66 Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 200 million kills the nfl is losing money theory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 (edited) 14 hours ago, Boatdrinks said: Don't forget about Ralph Wilson and the language he had put into the trust. It brought the bids down substantially because moving the team was going to be difficult , the team was worth less $$ in Buffalo. Pegulas overbid just kind of sealed the deal. Yes Ralph it made it more expensive to move the Bills immedialty but that roadblock was weak and temporary. But make no mistake the trust was bound by legal rules to sell to highest bidder for best return for the trust. Local feelings be damned. They had to sell to high bidder and if high bidder was the Jon Bon Jovi Toronto group they had combined as deep of pockets as Pegs and had no problem paying the large penalty for moving to Toronto early or waiting for the lease buyout to expire. There was a reason they scouted stadium sites in Toronto at same time they denied they would move the team.. This franchise was headed to Toronto sooner rather than later if Jon Bon Jovi won the bid. Jon Bon Jovi had this in the palm of his hands and only because he did not have the capital to be controlling owner doomed him. All he had to do was relax his overbearing ego and let the other multi billionaires from Toronto contribute more to the bid and be the majority controlling money contributors and they could have competed with Pegs. Toronto group then could have appointed Bon Jovi as President or what ever title he craved to be in control just like George Steinbrenner was a <5% owner of Yankees yet was the iron fisted controller. His screw up was Buffalo's gain. Thank the football Gods for Jon Bo Jovi ego killing his chance. He had it all. Lunch with Goodell, Jerry Jones and Kraft, on his side. What a Billsy thing Jon Bon Jovi did to himself in retrospect. https://www.buffalorumblings.com/buffalo-bills-news/2014/3/27/5552758/buffalo-bills-stadium-lease-relocation-fee-ralph-wilson New owner could have just waited for lease expiration in 2022 and moved for no penalty. This would have given Toronto group plenty of time to navigate Canada's complex stadium financing and approval process and get a new stadium built by 2022 with no temp home in Rogers Centre needed. Or lawsuit to move early and pay as little as 28 million. Even the 400 million would not stop some multibillionaires seeing gold in Toronto from moving to a much higher income producing area in Toronto or other city. Edited December 7, 2017 by cba fan error Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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papazoid Posted December 11, 2017 Share Posted December 11, 2017 jerrah not going quietly.... Jerry Jones put forth resolution to table Roger Goodell contract talks for 6 months, per memo "The owners who supported [Jones] are not exactly influencers and arm-twisters," one owner said. "They're just happy that Jerry wanted to talk to them." http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21733841/dallas-cowboys-owner-jerry-jones-put-forth-resolution-table-roger-goodell-contract-talks-6-months-per-memo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Jerry Jones isn’t done trying to get revenge on Roger Goodell Is Jones satisfied with the deal? "I'm not now," he told the Daily News. "But I will be." https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/jerry-jones-isn’t-done-trying-to-get-revenge-on-roger-goodell/ar-BBGFu7c?li=BBgET5V&ocid=spartanntp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Memorable league meeting expected in Dallas But the sense is that he’s (jerrah) got some other plan, unknown for now, to advance his agenda — and if necessary to create a little chaos. Eventually, it’s believed he’ll find a way to declare victory, even if the end result (in the eyes of most of his peers) is that the league, by virtue of the ugliest, most public fight among owners in years, has lost. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/12/13/memorable-league-meeting-expected-in-dallas/ (I love me some billionaire on billionaire crime) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Boatdrinks Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 (edited) On 12/7/2017 at 11:49 AM, cba fan said: Yes Ralph it made it more expensive to move the Bills immedialty but that roadblock was weak and temporary. But make no mistake the trust was bound by legal rules to sell to highest bidder for best return for the trust. Local feelings be damned. They had to sell to high bidder and if high bidder was the Jon Bon Jovi Toronto group they had combined as deep of pockets as Pegs and had no problem paying the large penalty for moving to Toronto early or waiting for the lease buyout to expire. There was a reason they scouted stadium sites in Toronto at same time they denied they would move the team.. This franchise was headed to Toronto sooner rather than later if Jon Bon Jovi won the bid. Jon Bon Jovi had this in the palm of his hands and only because he did not have the capital to be controlling owner doomed him. All he had to do was relax his overbearing ego and let the other multi billionaires from Toronto contribute more to the bid and be the majority controlling money contributors and they could have competed with Pegs. Toronto group then could have appointed Bon Jovi as President or what ever title he craved to be in control just like George Steinbrenner was a <5% owner of Yankees yet was the iron fisted controller. His screw up was Buffalo's gain. Thank the football Gods for Jon Bo Jovi ego killing his chance. He had it all. Lunch with Goodell, Jerry Jones and Kraft, on his side. What a Billsy thing Jon Bon Jovi did to himself in retrospect. https://www.buffalorumblings.com/buffalo-bills-news/2014/3/27/5552758/buffalo-bills-stadium-lease-relocation-fee-ralph-wilson New owner could have just waited for lease expiration in 2022 and moved for no penalty. This would have given Toronto group plenty of time to navigate Canada's complex stadium financing and approval process and get a new stadium built by 2022 with no temp home in Rogers Centre needed. Or lawsuit to move early and pay as little as 28 million. Even the 400 million would not stop some multibillionaires seeing gold in Toronto from moving to a much higher income producing area in Toronto or other city. It's not a revelation that the trust had fiduciary obligation to sell to the highest bidder. That was well known, and local feelings were never going to be an influence. However, the details put in by Ralph made the team less palatable to outsiders. Temporary or minor as you make them out to be , they had their desired effect. If the deep pocketed Toronto group had wanted to, they could have kicked Bon Jovi ( likely the least moneyed of the group) to the curb and formed their own group and bid whatever they wished. They didn't want to ,apparently . It was widely reported that the bids were going to come in lower after details of the trust were made known to the interested parties. The additional $$ and the lower potential ROI with the franchise in Buffalo was a large factor in that outcome. Edited December 13, 2017 by Boatdrinks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said: It's not a revelation that the trust had fiduciary obligation to sell to the highest bidder. That was well known, and local feelings were never going to be an influence. However, the details put in by Ralph made the team less palatable to outsiders. Temporary or minor as you make them out to be , they had their desired effect. If the deep pocketed Toronto group had wanted to, they could have kicked Bon Jovi ( likely the least moneyed of the group) to the curb and formed their own group and bid whatever they wished. They didn't want to ,apparently . It was widely reported that the bids were going to come in lower after details of the trust were made known to the interested parties. The additional $$ and the lower potential ROI with the franchise in Buffalo was a large factor in that outcome. Can't and won't argue anything you just mentioned. We agree pretty close. Big thing was the Toronto group passed on it's chance and unclear as to exactly why as they have never commented, but absolutely yes Ralph setup a temporary road block that in the end appeared to work out in favor of Bills fans in Buffalo. We all got lucky Pegs was willing to bid. Greatest day in my Bills fan life when it was announced Pegs was buying. Edited December 13, 2017 by cba fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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26CornerBlitz Posted December 14, 2017 Author Share Posted December 14, 2017 Goodell: My relationship with Jerry Jones is great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 2 hours ago, 26CornerBlitz said: Goodell: My relationship with Jerry Jones is great ...he exclaimed as his wrist breached Jerry Jones's anus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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May Day 10 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 (edited) 21 hours ago, cba fan said: Can't and won't argue anything you just mentioned. We agree pretty close. Big thing was the Toronto group passed on it's chance and unclear as to exactly why as they have never commented, but absolutely yes Ralph setup a temporary road block that in the end appeared to work out in favor of Bills fans in Buffalo. We all got lucky Pegs was willing to bid. Greatest day in my Bills fan life when it was announced Pegs was buying. Temporary.... things could have been very different if Mr Wilson passed away, say in 2017 or 2018... MLSE, does not have the liquid assets to compete with Terry Pegula. whether Jon Bon Jovi was the front, back, or side. Rogers also has their money tied up with various family matters after the old man's death. They also blew a ton of money on the NHL contracts and are paying for it. I do remember other interests rumored to come in and kick the tires.... an individual or group from Chicago comes to my memory. It seems they were likely scared off by the NRA with the lease. Combined with a relocation fee, and the price of building a stadium (presumably in Toronto).... it would make a $2 Million bid into $4 million very quickly. It was all timing. The paint wasn't even dry on the RWS renovations when all this came into action. Also, the emergence of the Pegula family with their liquid wealth and commitment to the city was a monster factor. I truly appreciate Ralph Wilson and his family for creating the Bills and maintaining them through more than 50 years. Ralph Wilson is the father of the Buffalo Bills. However, I do not subscribe to the thought that he had some sort of master plan to screw the NFL and force the team to remain in Buffalo. If that were the case, he would have fought for a 50 year NRA and the state/county would have gladly accepted. The State/County side were the ones pushing for the $ penalty for breaking the lease and length of time. The Bills didnt have too much leverage, as no way Wilson was going to sell the team at that point and take the tax hits. Edited December 14, 2017 by May Day 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Goodell Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 I am humbled by the trust and friendship extended to me by Jerry Jones, the Compensation Committee, the players and the fans of our great league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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