HumbleAndHungry Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 With four siblings in the military and the soldiers who have paid the ultimate price to ensure America's freedom, I couldn't support someone who desecrate's a flag I hold so sacred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocLawless Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Sorry, let me be more like the racist guy with 32,000 posts and pretend like Kaep coming in won't be a problem with a large chunk of the fanbase because they can't handle a black man peacefully protesting oppression Oppression? You are media brainwashed pal. The media shows you only the instances of bad policing and rarely the instances of the dangers of the job and how often they are gunned down by crimimals. Should I consider all Black Lives Matter supporters terrorists because a group of them ambushed officers? That's just the problem I have with his protest, it generalizes an entire group because of the actions of a few bad apples in the police force. Cops come in all different races, religions, genders, etc.. some are bad and corrupt sure, but most are good people hoping to get home to their families every night, yet most would take a bullet for a stranger. Since when is generalizing an entire group ok? There are bad people in every walk of life. Police officers go out every day and night, for very little money mind you, and put their lives on the line for people like you who call them racist oppressors. It's a dangerous job, and when people like kaepernick push this false narrative of them being racist oppresors, it puts a target on their backs and makes their job that much more dangerous. So no, you shouldn't expect people who have family and friends serving in the force to want him anywhere near their favorite team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSOL Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 I think it's a safe bet that CK never plays another single down in football for the rest of his life. I'm pretty sure he's effectively blacklisted from the NFL. Right or wrong, I just think that is the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 I stopped reading at porn. Fair enough. No reason to read it if you can't dispute it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Fair enough. No reason to read it if you can't dispute it.no. You just have trouble understanding where you are. We aren't talking about whatever you're trying to bring up with the second amendment and ****. There is a thread in PPP for that angle of the story. Your crap doesnt belong in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Fair enough. No reason to read it if you can't dispute it. It's not that. It just gave him another idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 no. You just have trouble understanding where you are. We aren't talking about whatever you're trying to bring up with the second amendment and ****. There is a thread in PPP for that angle of the story. Your crap doesnt belong in this thread. I thought you stopped reading at porn. I guess not. For what it's worth, I know precisely where I am. Specifically, I'm in a thread where you adopted a photo of a t-shirt depicting a man with a target that has been placed on him because he has a point of view different from the creator of the t-shirt (and, apparently, yours). Whether one agrees or disagrees with Kaep is immaterial. The "target" stuff is the crap that doesn't belong. And this fact remains: you still can't dispute my points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 With four siblings in the military and the soldiers who have paid the ultimate price to ensure America's freedom, I couldn't support someone who desecrate's a flag I hold so sacred. I'm a veteran. My dad is a veteran, as was his father. My brother did 20 honorable years and retired from the Navy and my sister is also a veteran. Other than my grandfather, who's dead, all of us think Kaepernick should be on a roster. Under normal circumstances, i.e. - if all of our talent hadn't been traded away - I would have welcomed Kaep as a Bill and actually wanted the Bills to pursue him before the Taylor extension. I think he's far, far better than Taylor. As it stands now, thinking purely football, I wouldn't want Kaep. I'd rather either find a QB via the draft or get a FA who is better than he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 I thought you stopped reading at porn. I guess not. For what it's worth, I know precisely where I am. Specifically, I'm in a thread where you adopted a photo of a t-shirt depicting a man with a target that has been placed on him because he has a point of view different from the creator of the t-shirt (and, apparently, yours). Whether one agrees or disagrees with Kaep is immaterial. The "target" stuff is the crap that doesn't belong. And this fact remains: you still can't dispute my points. second amendment stood out. I only read your first sentence. You'll keep my attention longer if you hold off using the word porn until the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dezertbill Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Unfortunately with Kaep it's not a talent thing it's a distraction thing. Being a short term option definitely isn't worth the circus. If we were a playoff team maybe he's an option if TT and peterman are out long term and Yates crashes. Since we aren't I don't See the Bills wanting to bring that here to Buffalo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Unfortunately with Kaep it's not a talent thing it's a distraction thing. Being a short term option definitely isn't worth the circus. If we were a playoff team maybe he's an option if TT and peterman are out long term and Yates crashes. Since we aren't I don't See the Bills wanting to bring that here to Buffalo I agree that it is a distraction thing for teams with regards to CK. I'm not sure it's unfortunate exactly, but that's what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 ...a black man peacefully protesting oppression Is there a reason you're basing everything on the color of a man's skin? I mean, you seem go be the ONLY one talking about skin color. Don't you find that to be a bit, y'know, odd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtDart Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 (edited) I'm sure the Trump circlejerk forum will happily explain why a picture depicting a black man with a crosshair across his chest is not racist Lol, really. You are special. You really need to take a break from the internet. Edited August 28, 2017 by DirtDart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Is there a reason you're basing everything on the color of a man's skin? I mean, you seem go be the ONLY one talking about skin color. Don't you find that to be a bit, y'know, odd? So true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spurna Posted August 28, 2017 Author Share Posted August 28, 2017 Oppression? You are media brainwashed pal. Buffalo has the second-highest childhood poverty rate in America I'm glad you can go have a beer at Canalside and buy tickets for the Bills games, but most of the city lives in crippling poverty Stop trying to make it about *my family* or *America* or *law enforcement* - can't we all agree that black people are disadvantaged? Or should black people who speak out get their face on t-shirts with gun cross-hairs over their chests? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Oppression? You are media brainwashed pal. The media shows you only the instances of bad policing and rarely the instances of the dangers of the job and how often they are gunned down by crimimals. Should I consider all Black Lives Matter supporters terrorists because a group of them ambushed officers? That's just the problem I have with his protest, it generalizes an entire group because of the actions of a few bad apples in the police force. Cops come in all different races, religions, genders, etc.. some are bad and corrupt sure, but most are good people hoping to get home to their families every night, yet most would take a bullet for a stranger. Since when is generalizing an entire group ok? There are bad people in every walk of life. Police officers go out every day and night, for very little money mind you, and put their lives on the line for people like you who call them racist oppressors. It's a dangerous job, and when people like kaepernick push this false narrative of them being racist oppresors, it puts a target on their backs and makes their job that much more dangerous. So no, you shouldn't expect people who have family and friends serving in the force to want him anywhere near their favorite team. Well said... I don't care about the knee, but understand those that do. My question is if Kapernick is good enough to help the Bills is he worth the media circus and all the circle jerks posting above. I just don't think he is good enough. That being said, I don't care about his poilitical statements... this is football... can he play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Is there a reason you're basing everything on the color of a man's skin? I mean, you seem go be the ONLY one talking about skin color. Don't you find that to be a bit, y'know, odd? To be fair, nobody has responded to the Nate Boyer point. He's the vet (and JAG long snapper) who, if memory serves, came up with the compromise protest. I appreciate that Boyer doesn't protest himself, but he arguably created the pose. So why no animus toward him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HumbleAndHungry Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 I commend you and your family for your service Gugny, much respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 (edited) I'm a veteran. My dad is a veteran, as was his father. My brother did 20 honorable years and retired from the Navy and my sister is also a veteran. Other than my grandfather, who's dead, all of us think Kaepernick should be on a roster. Under normal circumstances, i.e. - if all of our talent hadn't been traded away - I would have welcomed Kaep as a Bill and actually wanted the Bills to pursue him before the Taylor extension. I think he's far, far better than Taylor. As it stands now, thinking purely football, I wouldn't want Kaep. I'd rather either find a QB via the draft or get a FA who is better than he is. Great post. It's funny how many people who actually served don't have a problem with Kaepernick's protest, because they understand that (1) they served to protect a country and its ideals, not a flag or a song, and (2) one of the things they fought for was to protect the rights of people like kaepernick (right or wrong) to peacefully protest. It seems to me that it's mostly people who never served (or who actively dodged the draft, like 45) who react like rabid animals to a man's peaceful protest. Edited August 28, 2017 by mannc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted August 28, 2017 Share Posted August 28, 2017 Great post. It's funny how many people who actually served don't have a problem with Kaepernick's protest, because they understand that (1) they served to protect a country and its ideals, not a flag or a song, and (2) one of the things they fought for was to protect the rights of people like kaepernick (right or wrong) to peacefully protest. It seems to me that it's mostly people who never served (or who actively dodged the draft, like 45) who like react like rabid animals to a man's peaceful protest. Well said. I'll add that maybe the flag means different things to different people. And that's ok. Just like it's ok to disagree about whether Kaep is done as an NFL QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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