Kirby Jackson Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 (edited) Bledsoe had NO D in 2002 and is the sole reason we got to 8-8. He smoked Kelly's single season passing record..... not something we have to look forward to with TT. ...and as good as he was the first half of 2002 he had 8 TDs and 10 INTs the second half of the year. He followed that with the worst quarterbacked year of the drought. As a member of the Bills he was 23-25 with a 59.1% completion, 55 TDs & 43 INTs and averaged 211 yards a game. He also got sacked 140 times and fumbled 35. People remember Bledsoe WAY more fondly than they should. He had a few good years in New England, 8 good games in Buffalo but in general was not good. He was bad in a Bills uniform. Additionally, he played with arguably the most talented teams of the drought. Edited July 24, 2017 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 ...and as good as he was the first half of 2002 he had 8 TDs and 10 INTs the second half of the year. He followed that with the worst quarterbacked year of the drought. As a member of the Bills he was 23-25 with a 59.1% completion, 55 TDs & 43 INTs and averaged 211 yards a game. He also got sacked 140 times and fumbled 35. People remember Bledsoe WAY more fondly than they should. He had a few good years in New England, 8 good games in Buffalo but in general was not good. He was bad in a Bills uniform. Additionally, he played with arguably the most talented teams of the drought. Oh I agree he played some bad ball but behind that line and with those weapons he's a pretty good pure passer probably. Â If just giving all pro style honors he's definitely not the guy. If assembling a team for a game, he probably bumps up the list a few spots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Oh I agree he played some bad ball but behind that line and with those weapons he's a pretty good pure passer probably. Â If just giving all pro style honors he's definitely not the guy. If assembling a team for a game, he probably bumps up the list a few spots He could always sling it. That's why he went 1. He couldn't move, wasn't very smart and couldn't handle the rush. In shorts and a t shirt he's one of the great QBs ever. He was a good QB at that time with all of those weapons (at least for a few weeks). Â I'd maybe have him 4th in the drought era behind Tyrod-Fitz and Orton. Bledsoe is a guy though that has largely been given a free pass for the drought even though he probably quarterbacked the best teams in that timeframe. That 2004 team was especially talented. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 They remember him for those first 8 games. Â He was good. After that, he blew chunks. Tyrod > Bledsoe(as a Bill) and it's not even close. But they could throw the ball!! Bledsoe averaged a whopping 2.6 more passing yards a game than Tyrod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 But they could throw the ball!! Bledsoe averaged a whopping 2.6 more passing yards a game than Tyrod. Â One thing of note: It's very recent but to some degree it's a different era-- both WRs and QBs are much more protected now. Comparatively it's the difference between 3-4 teams averaging under 200ypg passing last year vs more than a dozen in 2004. Â I'd probably go Tyrod if pressed for a real choice but I think it's closer than most consider if actually building a team for Sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 One thing of note: It's very recent but to some degree it's a different era-- both WRs and QBs are much more protected now. Comparatively it's the difference between 3-4 teams averaging under 200ypg passing last year vs more than a dozen in 2004. Â I'd probably go Tyrod if pressed for a real choice but I think it's closer than most consider if actually building a team for Sunday Despite the era difference Bledsoe averaged 4 more passing attempts a game. So while the league in general throws more now that isn't the case with the Bills. It is an easier time to throw the ball now but it's certainly offset some by the increased attempts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Josh Reed is first team suck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Absolutely Sammy over Lee Evans. I agree with Bmore. Sammy doesn't yet have enough games played. Also, for me, being so injury-prone is a big negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Is the first list for best dressed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Inspired by the most-underrated thread... 1st Team, All-Drought Stars WR Eric Moulds WR Sammy Watkins TE Charles Clay T Jason Peters T Cordy Glenn G Richie Incognito G Andy Levitre C Eric Wood QB Tyrod Taylor RB LeSean McCoy FB Sam Gash (can't help it) DE Mario Williams DE Jerry Hughes DT Pat Williams DT Marcell Dareus LB London Fletcher LB Takeo Spikes LB Sam Cowart (can't help it) CB Nate Clements CB Terrence McGee S Jairus Byrd S Lawyer Milloy    I think this is pretty close. I can't not have Kyle in... so he goes in for Pat Williams who I only remember right at the tail end of his Bills career. I'd also go Greer and Gilmore over McGee (who I always thought was overrated). I think at receiver I agree with Moulds and Sammy, but Evans and Stevie have legitimate shots. Stevie gets a lot of heat and deservedly for some of his antics at times but his 3 back to back 1,000 yard seasons with 23 touchdowns in that time is one of the best, most consistent, periods of play by a receiver in franchise history. I think there is a danger people forget how good he was on a team that basically had no other legitimate receiving threat at the time and as a result Stevie saw a lot of double coverage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Nice job, Rico! Damn, our '1st team' could win multiple Super Bowls! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Inspired by the most-underrated thread... 1st Team, All-Drought Stars WR Eric Moulds WR Sammy Watkins TE Charles Clay T Jason Peters T Cordy Glenn G Richie Incognito G Andy Levitre C Eric Wood QB Tyrod Taylor RB LeSean McCoy FB Sam Gash (can't help it) DE Mario Williams DE Jerry Hughes DT Pat Williams DT Marcell Dareus LB London Fletcher LB Takeo Spikes LB Sam Cowart (can't help it) CB Nate Clements CB Terrence McGee S Jairus Byrd S Lawyer Milloy   2nd Team, All-Drought Stars WR Lee Evans WR Steve Johnson TE Scott Chandler T Jonas Jennings T Langston Walker (?) G Ruben Brown G Brad Butler C Trey Teague QB Ryan Fitzpatrick RB Fred Jackson FB Jerome Felton (?) DE Aaron Schobel DE Phil Hansen DT Kyle Williams DT Sam Adams LB Lorenzo Alexander LB Kiko Alonso LB John Holecek CB Jabari Greer CB Stephon Gilmore S Aaron Williams S George Wilson   1st Team, All-Drought Suck WR T.J. Graham WR Ruvell Martin TE Robert Royal T Greg Jerman T Mike Williams G Colin Brown G Mike Pucillo C Duke Preston QB EJ Manuel RB Reggie Bush FB Glenn Gronkowski DE Aaron Maybin DE Chris Kelsay DT John McCargo DT Tiny Tim Anderson LB Corey Moore LB Keith Ellison LB Eddie Robinson CB Justin Rogers CB Chris Watson S Lil Donte Whitner (captain) S Coy Wire  2nd Team, All-Drought Suck WR James Hardy WR Bobby Shaw (?) TE Tim Euhus (?) T Cornell Green T Ed Wang G Bennie Anderson G Erik Pears C Melvin Fowler QB J.P. Losman RB Bryce Brown FB Phillip Crosby (?) DE Chris Ellis DE Erik Flowers DT Lauvale Sape (!) DT Torell Troup LB John DiGiorgio LB Kelvin Sheppard LB Leon Joe (!) CB Leodis McKelvin (sorry) CB Drayton Florence (?) S Traveras Tillman S Jonathan Meeks  For my first team, I'd want Moulds/Price with Bledsoe.  I'd definitely put Alonso on one of the suck teams.  This is a cool thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlottebillsfan2 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Great post, Adding some Head coaches to the gong show!  1st Team, All-Drought Stars Wade Phillips, I get it he was there in 98 but he was also there for the start of the draught. Has to be your HC  2nd Team, All-Drought Stars Mike Mularkey  1st Team, All-Drought Suck Dick Jauron  2nd Team, All-Drought Suck Chan Galley .333 win percentage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Great post, Adding some Head coaches to the gong show!  1st Team, All-Drought Stars Wade Phillips, I get it he was there in 98 but he was also there for the start of the draught. Has to be your HC  2nd Team, All-Drought Stars Mike Mularkey  1st Team, All-Drought Suck Dick Jauron  2nd Team, All-Drought Suck Chan Galley .333 win percentage I'd have Wade (if he counts) then Marone next followed by Gailey.  All suck is Rex 1st team & Jauron 2nd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 I'd have Wade (if he counts) then Marone next followed by Gailey.  All suck is Rex 1st team & Jauron 2nd  Same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogger Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 (edited) great list, but here's what I'd change. where is Winfield? 1st team. I'd replace Butler with Chris Villarrial, his time with Buffalo was short, but he was solid. Flowers all sucks more than Kelsey, Kelsey was fairly solid, Flowers was a bust. I might replace Walker with Gandy for 2nd team, again, Gandy wasn't great, but he was a inexpensive option that outplayed his contract. Crowell over Kiko  Ko Simpson should be all sucks too Edited July 24, 2017 by frogger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 (edited) There's been some good discussion and constructive criticism in this thread since the OP.But I've got to say I'm awed by Rico's original lists. Not because they're perfect, but because Rico can remember all those guys. Â I think I could put together a pretty good first team All Drought Stars from memory. But Rico's 2nd Team All-Drought Suck list?!?!? I'd happily forgotten most of those guys. Â Nice job, Rico! Edited July 24, 2017 by hondo in seattle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 willis freaking mcgahee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 How many games would those all I know teams win? 0? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlottebillsfan2 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 I think Mashawn Lynch has to be number 2 rb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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