eball Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 @Sportsnet The Sacramento Kings have signed Vince Carter. http://sprtsnt.ca/2u6S6LR The ageless wonder. He's a freak of nature for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted July 12, 2017 Share Posted July 12, 2017 The ageless wonder. He's a freak of nature for sure. He slacked off 95% of the time for his Toronto years, so that didn't count against his energy level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 13, 2017 Share Posted July 13, 2017 Best player in the draft Lonzo Ball put on a show tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 @ShamsCharania Los Angeles Lakers' No. 2 overall pick Lonzo Ball has been named NBA Summer League MVP in Las Vegas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 And the lakers win the Summer league championship It of course will be the only championship the lakers win this year....however we appear to have had an excellent draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Best player in the draft Lonzo Ball put on a show tonight Pretty pretty good, but too early to claim this. Tatum, Dennis Smith Jr, Fultz will all bring it too. And the lakers win the Summer league championship It of course will be the only championship the lakers win this year....however we appear to have had an excellent draft Kuzma is a stud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 18, 2017 Author Share Posted July 18, 2017 (edited) Best player in the draft Lonzo Ball put on a show tonightits Summer League, bro [returns to watching Jason Tatum highlights on a loop] Edited July 18, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Summer League was pretty exciting. It's nice to see the influx of young talent entering the league. This was a great draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Ball really impressed me during Summer League. I know it is only summer league but I do enjoy his brand of basketball. Magic Johnson is the reason I am a Laker fan and I would emulate the no look passes on the playground. I love free flowing basketball so much more than half court sets. Passing is contagious as we saw from his team mates as well. I don't think they can climb out of the cellar quite yet in a ridiculously stacked west but Ball is the kind of player that might help actually attract players when the Lakers make their big move next year. I'm dreaming of LeBron to the Lakers still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 @SInow Dikembe Mutombo says he is working on putting together a group to buy the Rockets — 'It's really the right time' https://t.co/Zn8NFCXhy9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 @SInow Dikembe Mutombo says he is working on putting together a group to buy the Rockets — 'It's really the right time' https://t.co/Zn8NFCXhy9 I saw a tweet that James Harden will be paid 3 times as much as the Rockets owner did for the team when he bought them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 @WindhorstESPN Derrick Rose is in serious talks with the Cavs on a 1-year deal, sources tell @wojespn and me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 @WindhorstESPN Kyrie Irving asked the Cavs to trade him in a meeting last week, sources told ESPN. Story posting on http://ESPN.com shortly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 @WindhorstESPN Kyrie Irving asked the Cavs to trade him in a meeting last week, sources told ESPN. Story posting on http://ESPN.com shortly Frye & Kyrie for Porzingis & Melo Cavs start: Rose LeBron Melo Love Porzingis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 Kyrie doesn't get enough touches with the king around. Lololololol. Farewell Cavs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 Frye & Kyrie for Porzingis & Melo Cavs start: Rose LeBron Melo Love Porzingis It would certainly zig while the league is zagging. That big ball lineup would be tough for the smaller teams. However I would be concerned about ball movement and spacing with them. Let alone Roses knees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 (edited) It would certainly zig while the league is zagging. That big ball lineup would be tough for the smaller teams. However I would be concerned about ball movement and spacing with them. Let alone Roses knees The weird thing is (outside of Rose) they could really space the floor. He would attack like Kyrie but he can't shoot. The rest of those guys can all knock down shots. They probably can't defend anyone though. Edited July 21, 2017 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted July 21, 2017 Share Posted July 21, 2017 @ChrisBHaynes ESPN Sources: On Kyrie Irving front, Cavs were given four preferred landing spots: New York, Miami, San Antonio, Minnesota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 @ChrisBHaynes ESPN Sources: On Kyrie Irving front, Cavs were given four preferred landing spots: New York, Miami, San Antonio, Minnesota. The irony of Lebrons right hand man leaving him to go play with Wiggins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 22, 2017 Author Share Posted July 22, 2017 (edited) Kyrie is gone imo. I don't blame him either. This team is built around lebron's skill set, not his. He's a ball dominant PG who has been asked to play off the ball. There is no guarantee Lebron is back next year and kyrie lived through the non-Lebron years in Cleveland once already. The Cavs have no up and coming talent and have been adding old guys to be role players for years. He's smart. Taking charge of his career. He believes in the category of harden/Westbrook. Whether anyone agrees or not, he wants to go prove that somewhere. Bottom line - as a Celtics fan I'm loving it Edited July 22, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Kyrie is gone imo. I don't blame him either. This team is built around lebron's skill set, not his. He's a ball dominant PG who has been asked to play off the ball. There is no guarantee Lebron is back next year and lived through the non-Lebron years in Cleveland once already. He's smart. Taking charge of his career. He believes in the category of harden/Westbrook. Whether anyone agrees or not, he wants to go prove that somewhere.I agree with all of this. The Cavs are in a really weird spot here. They have to trade him at this point. There are some moves out there that actually close the gap with Golden State. The Cavs, as presently constructed cannot beat the Warriors. With that being said, if they make a move like that and LeBron leaves next year anyways those moves won't matter. Do they play for this year and hope that LeBron stays? Do they use Kyrie to return young talent? I have no idea what I would do in their situation. Is it better for the franchise to get Melo & Bledsoe or something like Murray, Harris and Lyles? I've been playing on the trade machine for like 15 straight hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 22, 2017 Author Share Posted July 22, 2017 I agree with all of this. The Cavs are in a really weird spot here. They have to trade him at this point. There are some moves out there that actually close the gap with Golden State. The Cavs, as presently constructed cannot beat the Warriors. With that being said, if they make a move like that and LeBron leaves next year anyways those moves won't matter. Do they play for this year and hope that LeBron stays? Do they use Kyrie to return young talent? I have no idea what I would do in their situation. Is it better for the franchise to get Melo & Bledsoe or something like Murray, Harris and Lyles? I've been playing on the trade machine for like 15 straight hours. Kyrie for Mike Conley Jr. straight up? Not sure if money would work but Dan already pays the luxury tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Kyrie for Mike Conley Jr. straight up? Not sure if money would work but Dan already pays the luxury tax.I'm not sure I would want that Conley contract (although I've seen it mentioned). Should the Pelicans offer Boogie? The Heat, Whiteside? What about the Sixers using Fultz or Simmons? If I had to guess I would think that Bledsoe & Melo is what they end up doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 Without Kyrie the Cavs aren't very good, period. Bunch of softies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 22, 2017 Author Share Posted July 22, 2017 Without Kyrie the Cavs aren't very good, period. Bunch of softies.and old guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 I'm not sure I would want that Conley contract (although I've seen it mentioned). Should the Pelicans offer Boogie? The Heat, Whiteside? What about the Sixers using Fultz or Simmons? If I had to guess I would think that Bledsoe & Melo is what they end up doing. Why would the Suns give up Bledsoe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 (edited) Without Kyrie the Cavs aren't very good, period. Bunch of softies.He's a phenomenal offensive talent and has a killer mentality. He's one of the worst defensive players in the league. He's a ball dominant guard that hasn't been able to lead when LeBeon leaves the floor. The Cavs have no shot against Golden State at the moment. They stupidly tried to build a team to try to trade buckets with them. Kyrie is a huge part of that offensive firepower. The teams that have given GS trouble (if you can call it that) have been able to switch all over the court. The Celtics may be the best example. If they could turn Kyrie & Frye into something like Middleton, Parker and Maker they may be better for it (assuming Middleton is healthy). Kyrie is a better player than all of those guys individually but they may match up better. The Cavs should use this as a chance to remake their roster (including signing Rose). If they make the deal that I suggested above they can look something like this: 1st unit: - LeBron, Middleton, Parker, Love, Thompson Bench - Rose, JR, Shumpert, Jefferson, Maker, Calderon, Korver, Osman, Derrick Williams (or something like that). Maybe they try to turn Shumpert into a big but you get the point. Kyrie is certainly better than any of those guys but I'm not sure that isn't a better Cavs roster. From the Bucks standpoint they are trying to keep Giannis and adding a 2nd star may do that. Why would the Suns give up Bledsoe?He's been on the block for about a year. They'd prefer to deal Knight but they are probably stuck with him. Edited July 22, 2017 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 He's a phenomenal offensive talent and has a killer mentality. He's one of the worst defensive players in the league. He's a ball dominant guard that hasn't been able to lead when LeBeon leaves the floor. The Cavs have no shot against Golden State at the moment. They stupidly tried to build a team to try to trade buckets with them. Kyrie is a huge part of that offensive firepower. The teams that have given GS trouble (if you can call it that) have been able to switch all over the court. The Celtics may be the best example. If they could turn Kyrie & Frye into something like Middleton, Parker and Maker they may be better for it (assuming Middleton is healthy). Kyrie is a better player than all of those guys individually but they may match up better. The Cavs should use this as a chance to remake their roster (including signing Rose). If they make the deal that I suggested above they can look something like this: 1st unit: - LeBron, Middleton, Parker, Love, Thompson Bench - Rose, JR, Shumpert, Jefferson, Maker, Calderon, Korver, Osman, Derrick Williams (or something like that). Maybe they try to turn Shumpert into a big but you get the point. Kyrie is certainly better than any of those guys but I'm not sure that isn't a better Cavs roster. From the Bucks standpoint they are trying to keep Giannis and adding a 2nd star may do that. He's been on the block for about a year. They'd prefer to deal Knight but they are probably stuck with him. But what would they be getting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 But what would they be getting?A first (or 2 1sts) from the Knicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 I'm not sure I would want that Conley contract (although I've seen it mentioned). Should the Pelicans offer Boogie? The Heat, Whiteside? What about the Sixers using Fultz or Simmons? If I had to guess I would think that Bledsoe & Melo is what they end up doing. Conley is a stud. I enjoy his game. For me boogie for kyrie is the play. Kyrie and AD can do work and Boogie can dominate the east. Just need to get Tristan Kardashian out of there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 22, 2017 Author Share Posted July 22, 2017 Conley is a stud. I enjoy his game. For me boogie for kyrie is the play. Kyrie and AD can do work and Boogie can dominate the east. Just need to get Tristan Kardashian out of there for all the bashing of Dan Gilbert for getting rid of Griff, that Tristan Thompson contract was brutal. Though I'm not sure Lebron wasn't the one who was in charge there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 (edited) for all the bashing of Dan Gilbert for getting rid of Griff, that Tristan Thompson contract was brutal. Though I'm not sure Lebron wasn't the one who was in charge there.Swish and Kardashian both were lebron the Gm guys. I hate hearing Gilbert get blamed (even though quicken loans is beyond shady). Lebron runs everything, hope he loses 4 more titles. Edited July 22, 2017 by Maury Ballstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 (edited) There's a rumor that my brother-in-law told me that LeBron wanted Kyrie traded for CP this offseason. When Kyrie found out he was pretty pissed and asked to be traded. Somewhere along the way this was why Griffin left as well. LeBron's people leaked Kyrie wanting to be traded to Windhorst to kind of deflect from the reason it started. At any rate it sounds like that 3 team deal is in the works with the Suns and Knicks. I don't know how true it is my brother-in-law is a diehard Cleveland sports fan and is pretty much on top of what's going on. I believe this story. Edited July 23, 2017 by Kirby Jackson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 23, 2017 Author Share Posted July 23, 2017 I believe that story as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Makes me love Kyrie. Lebron is a bad GM, CP3 is not a killer. Lebron needs a killer by his side. Wade was a killer, Kyrie was a killer when he was allowed to be. Lebron has had some big games in the past few post seasons but I still don't see him as the guy that will battle back on his own when he is being overwhelmed by a superior team. Still a front runner to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 There's a rumor that my brother-in-law told me that LeBron wanted Kyrie traded for CP this offseason. When Kyrie found out he was pretty pissed and asked to be traded. Somewhere along the way this was why Griffin left as well. LeBron's people leaked Kyrie wanting to be traded to Windhorst to kind of deflect from the reason it started. At any rate it sounds like that 3 team deal is in the works with the Suns and Knicks. I don't know how true it is my brother-in-law is a diehard Cleveland sports fan and is pretty much on top of what's going on. I believe this story. What a B, Kyrie just won him a ring the year before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 Makes me love Kyrie. Lebron is a bad GM, CP3 is not a killer. Lebron needs a killer by his side. Wade was a killer, Kyrie was a killer when he was allowed to be. Lebron has had some big games in the past few post seasons but I still don't see him as the guy that will battle back on his own when he is being overwhelmed by a superior team. Still a front runner to me. CP has been a killer his whole career. He has been a GREAT big game player; he just played with garbage. Griffin and Jordan may be the two most overrated players in the league. The guy that has struggled in big games, ironically enough, is his new teammate Harden. What a B, Kyrie just won him a ring the year before.If that story is true (and I believe it) that's bad. How could Kyrie ever trust that dude again? I was just thinking about it and if I were the Cavs I'd trade Kyrie to the Lakers so that LeBron won't go there. Ha ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 I need the Knick to acquire Kyrie without moving Melo. They might win a ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 I need the Knick to acquire Kyrie without moving Melo. They might win a ring.They might deal Melo without Kyrie. At this point, I can't see the Knicks getting Kyrie without Porzingis. They've supposedly already offered Melo and multiple firsts. That hasn't gained any traction. This really is a fascinating move. Kyrie is a star, that's 25 and on a great contract. He wants to leave however. I would think that just about every team will pick up the phone. It's up to the Cavs then to navigate the offers and try to get the best offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 They might deal Melo without Kyrie. At this point, I can't see the Knicks getting Kyrie without Porzingis. They've supposedly already offered Melo and multiple firsts. That hasn't gained any traction. This really is a fascinating move. Kyrie is a star, that's 25 and on a great contract. He wants to leave however. I would think that just about every team will pick up the phone. It's up to the Cavs then to navigate the offers and try to get the best offer. No way! You're giving the Cavs way too much leverage that they don't really have. Kyrie is demanding a trade. Look at what OKC had to give up for PG, and all he said is he wants to test FA when his contract ends. The Cavs will be lucky to get 2 starters for Kyrie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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