SectionC3 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, BillStime said: You should have no problem providing a link to the unredacted report. I looked at the report and it appears that there are a lot of redactions - some for personal privacy, some for investigative techniques, and some for grand jury evidence. Bottom line: GJ material appears to have been included in the report, and the public has not seen an unredacted copy of the report. BillStime, 1, Washed up Psycho, 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: Good point. You made a claim I could see the unredacted report. Back it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Just now, SectionC3 said: I looked at the report and it appears that there are a lot of redactions - some for personal privacy, some for investigative techniques, and some for grand jury evidence. Bottom line: GJ material appears to have been included in the report, and the public has not seen an unredacted copy of the report. BillStime, 1, Washed up Psycho, 0. Chance for you to show your legal chops: why was it problematic for the Mueller team to do this? What are the long term implications to the grand jury system itself if it's allowed to be revealed (without charges being brought from said material, which Mueller had the opportunity to do but did not)? Once you answer that, you'll have to revise your scoreboard. Unless you're fake news. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: Chance for you to show your legal chops: why was it problematic for the Mueller team to do this? What are the long term implications to the grand jury system itself if it's allowed to be revealed (without charges being brought from said material, which Mueller had the opportunity to do but did not)? Once you answer that, you'll have to revise your scoreboard. Unless you're fake news. Where is the link to the unredacted report? Stop moving the goal posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Reality Check Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 If the Russia conspiracy theorists really think that General Flynn will be going to prison, they are going to be sadly disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bdutton Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 16 minutes ago, Tiberius said: I love wikkileaks! Trump was working with the Russians and Putin while Putin was hacking the DNC, spreading Russian propaganda and hacking election systems to help Trump. Those are all facts. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tiberius Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, bdutton said: Just shows you cannot handle the truth. Pure and simple. Weak person you are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 19 hours ago, SectionC3 said: I read it, too. Amicus can do whatever the court wants. And here the court wants to see if there is a legal reason for the government's change in position (which there could be, if Flynn was rope-a-doped in the plea machinations). Absent a legal reason, however, we'll be left with the stink of political influence. And the court likely will deny the application to withdraw the plea. See, that's where you're wrong here. This isn't just a prosecution anymore. To my knowledge (I haven't followed this closely), we have a conviction. And the judge has jurisdiction to determine whether to vacate the plea of guilty yielding the conviction. It's fair for the judge to seek information with respect to the prosecution's change in position. The judge's fidelity is to the rule of law, and if the judge feels that the change in position is politically motivated, it's within his discretion to deny the application to vacate the plea. Wait a second...you're telling me I'm wrong because you've opted to guess about the status? While that's a bold play, I politely decline to engage in speculation as to my knowledge, there has been no conviction. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 37 minutes ago, BillStime said: You should have no problem providing a link to the unredacted report. In other words, "Mommy, will you wipe me"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: In other words, "Mommy, will you wipe me"? The next time you'll say something about having mommy handle your wine cork. 26 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: Wait a second...you're telling me I'm wrong because you've opted to guess about the status? While that's a bold play, I politely decline to engage in speculation as to my knowledge, there has been no conviction. I'll guess again. You're going to play the "But there's no judgment!" game, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 1 hour ago, SectionC3 said: You're right. Makes total sense. Trying to undo a guilty plea with respect to a nonviolent crime deserves attention equal to that given to competing world public health and economic crises. As much as I despise communicating with you 3rd Chair, (one of the reasons being that you always want to discuss my dick) I'm not going to let the above pass. Is trying to undo a guilty plea all you see here? Are you really that dense and so partisan that you'll let part of the biggest scandal in our history go by the wayside? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Just now, 3rdnlng said: As much as I despise communicating with you 3rd Chair, (one of the reasons being that you always want to discuss my dick) I'm not going to let the above pass. Is trying to undo a guilty plea all you see here? Are you really that dense and so partisan that you'll let part of the biggest scandal in our history go by the wayside? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, 3rdnlng said: As much as I despise communicating with you 3rd Chair, (one of the reasons being that you always want to discuss my dick) I'm not going to let the above pass. Is trying to undo a guilty plea all you see here? Are you really that dense and so partisan that you'll let part of the biggest scandal in our history go by the wayside? I made no mention of your "member." You keep on bringing that up. I read something about penis envy when I was in a college psych class. Maybe that's your problem. Also, FYI, you get more flies with honey. If you're nice to others, they're much more likely to be nice to you. Edited May 15, 2020 by SectionC3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: The next time you'll say something about having mommy handle your wine cork. I'll guess again. You're going to play the "But there's no judgment!" game, right? You are a waste of oxygen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said: You are a waste of oxygen. Hoax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 1 minute ago, SectionC3 said: I made no mention of your "member." You keep on brining that up. I read something about penis envy when I was in a college psych class. Maybe that's your problem. Also, FYI, you get more flies with honey. If you're nice to others, they're much more likely to be nice to you. Stop with the salty language. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 1 minute ago, 3rdnlng said: Stop with the salty language. I know nothing about salty. But I have to say that response was a good one. It made me laugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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