Tenhigh Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 I was just thinking about the great mistake that the collective fanbase made when Rex was hired, and how we all assumed that our defense would be equal or better than it was in 2014 with him at the helm. This has me reasonably concerned that we are making the same mistake with the offense, assuming that TT and Co will be able to run Dennison's offense nearly as efficiently as they were able to run the Roman/Lynn offense. Where do you think that our offense ends up in the standings this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 About where they were last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 (edited) I was just thinking about the great mistake that the collective fanbase made when Rex was hired, and how we all assumed that our defense would be equal or better than it was in 2014 with him at the helm. This has me reasonably concerned that we are making the same mistake with the offense, assuming that TT and Co will be able to run Dennison's offense nearly as efficiently as they were able to run the Roman/Lynn offense. Where do you think that our offense ends up in the standings this year? The problem is people are really underrating Greg Roman. Roman was the run coordinator for Harbaugh and helped the 49ers and Kaepernick get to a Superbowl. Dennison at this point is a souped up Modkins. He had more input but Kubiak was in charge. As for the points argument, all year it was Tyrod ='s points. Well, when the real games begin we will see this argument look kind of silly. If a CB like Gilmore intercepts the ball and takes the ball to the 3 yard line and Shady run it in, points. Points are important but reflect many moving parts. I expect Tyrod to have some nice games against crap teams and to again struggle against .500 teams or better as he did last year. It also means I expect Bills to lose lots of close games as Tyrod cannot make the throws necessary in the 4th quarter when other teams know he has to throw. Edited May 4, 2017 by jeffismagic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 The problem is people are really underrating Greg Roman. Roman was the run coordinator for Harbaugh and helped the 49ers and Kaepernick get to a Superbowl. Dennison at this point is a souped up Modkins. He had more input but Kubiak was in charge. As for the points argument, all year it was Tyrod ='s points. Well, when the real games begin we will see this argument look kind of silly. If a CB like Gilmore intercepts the ball and takes the ball to the 3 yard line and Shady run it in, points. Points are important but reflect many moving parts. I expect Tyrod to have some nice games against crap teams and to again struggle against .500 teams or better as he did last year. It also means I expect Bills to lose lots of close games as Tyrod cannot make the throws necessary in the 4th quarter when other teams know he has to throw. the real question is whether or not our defense will struggle against miami and the jets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 the real question is whether or not our defense will struggle against miami and the jets? Our defense won't be good, let's put it that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Our defense won't be good, let's put it that way. i know...you're predicting lots of injuries and they will get worse in the new scheme. if healthy i think they can be better in this new scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 I never assumed that our defense would be as good or better under Rex - in fact, I had a feeling it would be like Gregg Williams dismantling a great defense to implement his own scheme, and failing miserably because the personnel didn't match the scheme. Sadly, I was right. As for the offense under Dennison, it's hard to predict, since he wasn't the play-caller under Kubiak. But it looks like the offense he runs is pretty compatible with the BIlls' personnel. http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2017/1/20/14331974/rick-dennison-buffalo-bills-offensive-coordinator-tyrod-taylor-all-22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 To be fair to McD , he needs at least 1 more draft and free agency to fill in the blanks. New system O and D , player turnover , going back to 4-3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 i know...you're predicting lots of injuries and they will get worse in the new scheme. if healthy i think they can be better in this new scheme. I didn't predict injuries. What I said is that just a few injuries could make our defense bottom 5 as there is no depth on the roster. We just had a draft loaded with talent where Bills gave away picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Sean is serious while Rex was doing his Louie Anderson shtick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 I didn't predict injuries. What I said is that just a few injuries could make our defense bottom 5 as there is no depth on the roster. We just had a draft loaded with talent where Bills gave away picks. ahh the depth argument. weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 ahh the depth argument. weak. The Bills back 7 is a mess depth wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 The Bills back 7 is a mess depth wise. depends. if darby gets back to 2015 form and white plays well along with hyde our secondary looks grat. if rags is healthy we also look pretty good there. a couple ifs but i think we'll be ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Back to the offense, it would be so Bills to improve slightly in the pass game but get worse in the run game under Dennison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Hopefully the run D doesn't allow 200 yard rush performances every other week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 i told you dummies that the defense would be a trainrex with Rex. it takes 2 years to get the right players and 3 years to master a defensive system. now we are going back to the 4-3 but we don't have the LB's for it and we have man-to-man corners that are now going to be playing zone and need to provide help in the run game but combined they weigh less than me. anyone that expects immediate success is in for a surprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 I expect the O to end up in the top 12, but with more balance. ~35 Pass Attempts per game and ~25 Rush Attempts per game as opposed to last year's 29/31 split. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 i told you dummies that the defense would be a trainrex with Rex. it takes 2 years to get the right players and 3 years to master a defensive system. now we are going back to the 4-3 but we don't have the LB's for it and we have man-to-man corners that are now going to be playing zone and need to provide help in the run game but combined they weigh less than me. anyone that expects immediate success is in for a surprise And when Sean hasn't hit .500 in two years he is gone and a new scheme change. I expect the O to end up in the top 12, but with more balance. ~35 Pass Attempts per game and ~25 Rush Attempts per game as opposed to last year's 29/31 split. No way Tyrod throws 35 times a game. Unless you are trying to get a top 5 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 And when Sean hasn't hit .500 in two years he is gone and a new scheme change. and around and around we go. i'm getting dizzy, someone get me off of this ride! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 No way Tyrod throws 35 times a game. Unless you are trying to get a top 5 pick. If only we had an eyeroll emoji... Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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