DrDawkinstein Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Buffalo's hockey team is now an NHL laughingstock. If the Pegula's hire another incompetent we will lose Jack Eichel. And I think that would be the final straw for me. How? He's a RFA and we'll certainly match any deal offered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 How? He's a RFA and we'll certainly match any deal offered. When he hits Free Agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 What about Cal Peterson - I would expect him to go the free agency route, just like Vescey. Maybe. If he does decide to leave school this year, a new GM will have no time to even try to get him signed. But maybe he will also see some opportunity here now. The new GM won't be tied to Lehner like Murray was. ,an I sure hope we get him signed though. I still think he could be our future franchise goaltender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spurna Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Pegulas have no idea what they're doing and the Bills and Sabres will never win a championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Guys Whaley isn't getting fired. The draft is in 7 days. He is safe for this year at least, but he's gotta know his seat is very very warm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 When he hits Free Agency. So, in like, another 8 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockpile233 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 There is a hockey thread in Off the wall. Personally I think Pegulas should look closely at options when lease expires for stadium. Press and certain portion of "fan base" will never be happy. This is total garbage. Win and everyone is happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Pegulas have no idea what they're doing and the Bills and Sabres will never win a championship good for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 So, in like, another 8 years? No, I believe teams have 7 years of control of draft picks. Eichel has spent 2 years here. So in 5 years if we are still bad he will leave. He will be 25 years old and in his prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBuff423 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I don't see how that helps. Polian? Coughlin? No, we'll end up with some dinosaur past their prime. I disagree because I think a sort of Czar can effective empower the GM in both franchises and assist in locating the HC for both franchises while not necessarily running their day to day activities. So, when there's staff meetings to discuss the actual sport side of the business the Pegulas have their rep asking the right questions, getting the answers appropriately and providing improved direction - essentially appointing a trustee of sorts while they merely sit back and enjoy being owners while the Czar is the only one with total access to them, if they enforce a chain-of-command. To me, this provides clarity for the owner and to the staff since the staff know they're getting good sport side information and insight. As far as dinosaur, for a Czar what you want is experience, but you also need one who knows their role - which is NOT a defacto GM, instead an overseer.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Pegulas have no idea what they're doing and the Bills and Sabres will never win a championship That's the spirit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I disagree because I think a sort of Czar can effective empower the GM in both franchises and assist in locating the HC for both franchises while not necessarily running their day to day activities. So, when there's staff meetings to discuss the actual sport side of the business the Pegulas have their rep asking the right questions, getting the answers appropriately and providing improved direction - essentially appointing a trustee of sorts while they merely sit back and enjoy being owners while the Czar is the only one with total access to them, if they enforce a chain-of-command. To me, this provides clarity for the owner and to the staff since the staff know they're getting good sport side information and insight. As far as dinosaur, for a Czar what you want is experience, but you also need one who knows their role - which is NOT a defacto GM, instead an overseer.... Look at Jacksonville. Coughlin is the puppet master. If we had hire Polian he would have installed his son as GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted April 20, 2017 Author Share Posted April 20, 2017 Let's be honest. Ralph's entire ownership reign was failure after failure with one small window of getting lucky in the middle. The Bills were a joke in the 60s, 70s, and early 80s. Did ok from late-80s through the 90s, then right back to being the same joke team that lost to the Dolphins for a decade straight (70s), and then the Pats for almost 2 decades straight. um.. no. Bills were great/League best from '63-'66, had winning seasons early-mid 70's including playoff. Got better by the end of the 70's and were serious contenders through the strike in '82. But I share your overall grief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Like A Mofo Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Okay sorry the better part of half a century. I have told you I have a very good friend that has had in the past dealings with the Sabres/Bills(more so the Sabres). He has even flown a couple times on Pegulas private jet with the Pegulas. He says Rusty has more to do with this sh*t show than anybody wants to admit. No offense to you or Kirby but I tend to believe my friend(he has no reason to lie) I agree with this and Russ Brandon is like a snake in the grass....behind the scenes and he is more involved then he should be. Until Russ Brandon is shown the door, I will view the Pegulas as clueless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 um.. no. Bills were great/League best from '63-'66, had winning seasons early-mid 70's including playoff. Got better by the end of the 70's and were serious contenders through the strike in '82. But I share your overall grief I appreciate that the Bills were good in the 60's. But for most fans that was before they were born. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 No, I believe teams have 7 years of control of draft picks. Eichel has spent 2 years here. So in 5 years if we are still bad he will leave. He will be 25 years old and in his prime. he has 1 more season on his rookie contract. after that he is an RFA and we control his rights. we will match any offer given (which doesnt happen much in the NHL) and retain him. Maybe after that second contract when he is a UFA, but we'll see where the team is then. Not much to worry about with Jack right now, his side has little to no power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 he has 1 more season on his rookie contract. after that he is an RFA and we control his rights. we will match any offer given (which doesnt happen much in the NHL) and retain him. Maybe after that second contract when he is a UFA, but we'll see where the team is then. Not much to worry about with Jack right now, his side has little to no power. I am not worried about next year. But if we pick a bad GM (and based on Pegulas track record very possible) Jack will be on his way to Boston or New York. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM2009 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Look at Jacksonville. Coughlin is the puppet master. If we had hire Polian he would have installed his son as GM. Coughlin is a legit football guy and would have given Buffalo instant credibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Coughlin is a legit football guy and would have given Buffalo instant credibility. I don't care about credibility. Being a great coach doesn't make one a great president or GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry Jabber Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Nick Bakay Retweeted Alex @aw67307 2h2 hours ago More Breaking News: Dan Bylsma, Tim Murray, sign with the New England Patriots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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