Virgil Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 I'm a TT guy and believe we have more pressing needs with our first three picks. In no particular order, OT, S, WR, DB are more pressing needs. We don't have a 4th round pick, so it'll be 5th or worse if we don't make trades. However, I'm all about making trades and picking up extra picks. To me, I think the QB's are all hit or miss in this draft and we could see a lot of guys fall to the 3rd or 4th round. With that being said, who would you like to see us grab in the 4th (with a trade) or 5th round? I think there's a chance that Webb falls to the late 3rd, but I don't see us drafting a guy we didn't interview. Overall, I see Peterman out of Pitt in the 5th round to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 One of the biggest playmakers that will come out of the 2017 NFL Draft will be O J Howard in my humble opinion OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber21 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 One of the biggest playmakers that will come out of the 2017 NFL Draft will be O J Howard in my humble opinion OP.I agree but I think the OP is looking for a QB conversation so I gonna say Chad Kelly with one of the 5th rounders. I'm a TT guy and believe we have more pressing needs with our first three picks. In no particular order, OT, S, WR, DB are more pressing needs. We don't have a 4th round pick, so it'll be 5th or worse if we don't make trades. However, I'm all about making trades and picking up extra picks. To me, I think the QB's are all hit or miss in this draft and we could see a lot of guys fall to the 3rd or 4th round. With that being said, who would you like to see us grab in the 4th (with a trade) or 5th round? I think there's a chance that Webb falls to the late 3rd, but I don't see us drafting a guy we didn't interview. Overall, I see Peterman out of Pitt in the 5th round to us. I think Peterman goes before the 5th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figster Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 I agree but I think the OP is looking for a QB conversation so I gonna say Chad Kelly with one of the 5th rounders. I was thinking along them lines before the surgery, now I'm not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Brad Kaaya, if he's there in the 4th. https://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2017/01/16/rsp-film-room-no-90-qb-brad-kaaya-extended-look/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 13, 2017 Author Share Posted April 13, 2017 I was thinking along them lines before the surgery, now I'm not sure. He's a 6th rounder at best. Probably undrafted at this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdonley1180 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 I just don't think there is anyway that if we take a late round flyer on a QB it isn't Chad Kelly. Not saying thats what i want but what 5-6 round pick could create more buzz within the media, and amoung fans during preseason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Beathard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 He's a 6th rounder at best. Probably undrafted at this point Kelly will not be undrafted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Josh Dobbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloFan68 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 If we don't take a QB within the first 3 (and that's a BIG if) then I could see us taking a late flyer on Chad. I'm really hoping for Williams, Adams or a QB at 10 though. Go Bills!!!!! I'm not a Dobbs fan but do like Webb but don't think Webb will last beyond the first 2 rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Wagon Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Josh Dobbs. Another vote for Dobbs I don't get the Peterman love, especially relative to Dobbs. Webb lost his job to Mahomes due to injury and wasn't going to get it back, but Dobbs just straight up beat out Peterman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 I'm a TT guy and believe we have more pressing needs with our first three picks. In no particular order, OT, S, WR, DB are more pressing needs. We don't have a 4th round pick, so it'll be 5th or worse if we don't make trades. However, I'm all about making trades and picking up extra picks. To me, I think the QB's are all hit or miss in this draft and we could see a lot of guys fall to the 3rd or 4th round. With that being said, who would you like to see us grab in the 4th (with a trade) or 5th round? I think there's a chance that Webb falls to the late 3rd, but I don't see us drafting a guy we didn't interview. Overall, I see Peterman out of Pitt in the 5th round to us. I like Peterman as an option but think we have to take him in Round 3 as don't think he be available after that to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 13, 2017 Author Share Posted April 13, 2017 I just don't see us drafting a QB we haven't set up a visit with. Hence, Peterman. As for Kelly going undrafted. I can see a 6th-undrafted. Couldn't do the combine. Only met with 3 teams. Off-field issues. At this points, he's a flyer pick. I can see the 6th only because he's a qb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 (edited) Another vote for Dobbs I don't get the Peterman love, especially relative to Dobbs. Webb lost his job to Mahomes due to injury and wasn't going to get it back, but Dobbs just straight up beat out Peterman. In college athletic QBs can be more dangerous and Dobbs is a superior athlete to Peterman. Yet Peterman played in a pro style offense at Pitt and has shown skills/intangibles that make him a good QB in the NFL. Specifically he can read a defense if his first option not open and has the ability to throw a WR open ie has the anticipation to throw the ball to a spot that the WR should be at when completes his route. While he doesn't have superior arm strength some have compared his skill set (minus the arm) to an Aaron Rodgers. Edited April 13, 2017 by The Jokeman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Brad Kaaya, if he's there in the 4th. https://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2017/01/16/rsp-film-room-no-90-qb-brad-kaaya-extended-look/ This guy is the definition of all the right physical tools but just a flat out poor football player. As a Hurricane fan, I can say with certainty that Kaaya will never be a successful NFL QB. He was terrible during big games all throughout his career mostly because he can't do anything under any sort of pressure. If he has all day and open lanes, he is great and has a rocket arm, but any sense of pressure and he panics, makes terrible reads, throws terrible passes. It was a repeating trait in all the games I watched (probably 5-7 Canes games each year and all the big ones). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 13, 2017 Author Share Posted April 13, 2017 This guy is the definition of all the right physical tools but just a flat out poor football player. As a Hurricane fan, I can say with certainty that Kaaya will never be a successful NFL QB. He was terrible during big games all throughout his career mostly because he can't do anything under any sort of pressure. If he has all day and open lanes, he is great and has a rocket arm, but any sense of pressure and he panics, makes terrible reads, throws terrible passes. It was a repeating trait in all the games I watched (probably 5-7 Canes games each year and all the big ones). Soooooo, EJ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 This guy is the definition of all the right physical tools but just a flat out poor football player. As a Hurricane fan, I can say with certainty that Kaaya will never be a successful NFL QB. He was terrible during big games all throughout his career mostly because he can't do anything under any sort of pressure. If he has all day and open lanes, he is great and has a rocket arm, but any sense of pressure and he panics, makes terrible reads, throws terrible passes. It was a repeating trait in all the games I watched (probably 5-7 Canes games each year and all the big ones). Hmmm...I got a different sense of his poise under pressure from watching a few games. Matt Waldman talks about it in this film breakdown: He had a great TE helping him sometimes, but he also flashed the ability to place the ball where only his receivers can get it, making them look good on many occasions. In the games I've watched, he may sense pressure too early sometimes, but he seems to make good decisions (i.e. throwing the ball away instead of taking a stupid sack) and he doesn't shy away from climbing the pocket, even when it's tight. What's your assessment of Miami's O-line? I'll take your word for it; maybe he showed more "skittishness" in other games I haven't seen. Miami was the most successful its been in a while with him at the helm, though, no? Plus, I think its a good sign that he improved every year, despite having 3 different coordinators. The fundamentals seem second nature to him, which is good for a mid-round prospect. He's definitely not a finished product, but if we're talking about a post-round 3 pick, he's the man I'm taking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderingsquid Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 I agree but I think the OP is looking for a QB conversation so I gonna say Chad Kelly with one of the 5th rounders. I think Peterman goes before the 5th True. If we are interested in Peterman we may have to trade our 5th's away to move up and take him in the 4th. Dobbs doesn't do it for me, seems a clumsier and taller version of Tyrod with a slower release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Im a huge OJ Howard fan....hope he is there at 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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