Tomorrow's Vote in the House (vote postponed)

[Benjamin Franklin]

 

 

 

 

McConnell said his party's primary mission when Obama got elected was to make sure Obama didn't get a second term.

 

And that was based on objections to his agenda.

And Merrick Garland might have a thought on the nomination process.

 

It was the Dems idea that the voters should choose which President gets to do the nominating.

Let's not pretend any party is in the right here and putting us before party.

 

Yet we re elect congressman at a rate that would make a tenured professor jealous of their job security.

McConnell didn't point to Obama's agenda and say let's fight this or that. He said the party's first mission was to ensure Obama was a one term president.

 

That is putting party before people.

 

And on the Garland thing, your rationale is furthering the second grade BS. I don't care who started it. The Senate's job is to advise and consent on presidential nominees. Did they?

 

And so now the Dems are threatening their own symbolic filibuster to Gorsuch, who is an equally qualified candidate to Garland. They are both unquestionably excellent choices and both should have been/should be approved by overwhelming majorities.

 

Don't you see how assinine both parties are? How this helps no one? Saying "he started it" is only second in stupidity to actually participating in the process.

[grinreaper]

McConnell didn't point to Obama's agenda and say let's fight this or that. He said the party's first mission was to ensure Obama was a one term president.

 

That is putting party before people.

 

And on the Garland thing, your rationale is furthering the second grade BS. I don't care who started it. The Senate's job is to advise and consent on presidential nominees. Did they?

 

And so now the Dems are threatening their own symbolic filibuster to Gorsuch, who is an equally qualified candidate to Garland. They are both unquestionably excellent choices and both should have been/should be approved by overwhelming majorities.

 

Don't you see how assinine both parties are? How this helps no one? Saying "he started it" is only second in stupidity to actually participating in the process.

Why did he want Obama to be a one term president?

 

With a country so fractured it was best to let the next president choose the nominee. Trump would not have won without an opening on the Court.

[Doc Brown]

Judge Jeanine told Ryan to resign

LOL. Trump tweeted to watch her show. Fox should just change its name to TPN (Trump's Propaganda Network).

[Deranged Rhino]

McConnell didn't point to Obama's agenda and say let's fight this or that. He said the party's first mission was to ensure Obama was a one term president.

 

That is putting party before people.

 

 

This is true and it was absolutely putting party before country.

 

But this particular brand of toxic partisanship didn't begin with McConnell. It began with Newt and we've been steadily rolling downhill since that point.

 

I don't say that as if you don't know it already, I'm just throwing it out there as a reminder. This partisan hackery goes both ways, and has, for many, many years now. The way to stop it isn't to point out the other side's hypocrisy -- because they're both hypocrites -- but to get serious about campaign finance reform. Want to get the hyper-partisanship out of DC? It starts by restoring the republic to its true self and topple the oligarchy we're currently living under.

[B-Man]

YOU DON’T SAY: A Replica Of The Successful 2015 Obamacare Repeal Is Languishing In Committee.

 

 

 

Ted Poe Quits Freedom Caucus Over Healthcare Disagreement

 

To deliver on the conservative agenda we have promised the American people for eight years, we must come together to find solutions to move this country forward,” Poe said through his congressional office. “Saying no is easy, leading is hard, but that is what we were elected to do. Leaving this caucus will allow me to be a more effective member of Congress and advocate for the people of Texas. It is time to lead.”

(more…)

Edited March 26, 2017 by B-Man

[Magox]

YOU DON’T SAY: A Replica Of The Successful 2015 Obamacare Repeal Is Languishing In Committee.

 

 

 

Ted Poe Quits Freedom Caucus Over Healthcare Disagreement

 

To deliver on the conservative agenda we have promised the American people for eight years, we must come together to find solutions to move this country forward,” Poe said through his congressional office. “Saying no is easy, leading is hard, but that is what we were elected to do. Leaving this caucus will allow me to be a more effective member of Congress and advocate for the people of Texas. It is time to lead.”

(more…)

 

The author of that first article Andrea Ruth is either really delusional or just another conservative huckster.

 

The Republicans voted on many repeal bills, even one that was very similar to the ACHA in which Meadows co sponsored along with Tom Price. It was one thing for Republicans to beat their chest and scream "REPEAL OBAMACARE" and then take a meaningless inconsequential vote back in 2015 and it is another to then govern and then vote on something that could end up having a real impact on people's lives. I know I'm repeating myself over and over, but it has to be said because these hucksters can't possibly be this stupid. A vote on the bill was not voting on a final product. It would have had to have gone back to the Senate, they would have debated it for months, giving ample time for Freedom Caucus to huddle up with Cotton, Cruz, Lee and Paul and they would have had plenty of say in how they would have wanted to craft legislation in the Senate. And even if passed the Senate it still would have gone back to Conference where leadership of Senate and House would have come to an agreement on a proposal to bring back to their members and then it would have had to go back to the house for yet another vote.

 

People are stupid, seriously.

 

And good for Ted Poe. These groups like the Freedom caucus should be marginalized, they only have an interest in purity not in governance. Their proposals typically aren't proposals that have any shot at becoming law. All they know how to do is oppose, they are not a constructive force when it comes to governing.

[Meathead]

 

But this particular brand of toxic partisanship didn't begin with McConnell. It began with Newt and we've been steadily rolling downhill since that point.

 

 

i think 9/11 was a major influence on that as well

 

after the attacks everybody sort of went back to their roots in an attempt to find comfort and to assuage their suddenly roiling fear. for most americans that meant running back to conservatism. we saw this play out in the series of missteps taken by george junior that were based on nationalistic pride and the wide space that gave him to do what he wanted - and make mistakes

 

it didnt take long for ppl to remember why they abandoned that superficial and extreme conservatism in the first place, and a massive shift back towards liberalism started and commenced through obamas terms. we see the destruction that whipsawing caused in the neofacist liberalism that infected our college campuses

 

so now we are left with the holdouts on both sides, clutching desperately to their ideologies as they try to find comfort, and warring with anyone who challenges them bc they see it as an existential crisis

 

its the legacy of extremism. and in a way its exactly what the extremists wanted

[DC Tom]

 

i think 9/11 was a major influence on that as well

 

after the attacks everybody sort of went back to their roots in an attempt to find comfort and to assuage their suddenly roiling fear. for most americans that meant running back to conservatism. we saw this play out in the series of missteps taken by george junior that were based on nationalistic pride and the wide space that gave him to do what he wanted - and make mistakes

 

it didnt take long for ppl to remember why they abandoned that superficial and extreme conservatism in the first place, and a massive shift back towards liberalism started and commenced through obamas terms. we see the destruction that whipsawing caused in the neofacist liberalism that infected our college campuses

 

so now we are left with the holdouts on both sides, clutching desperately to their ideologies as they try to find comfort, and warring with anyone who challenges them bc they see it as an existential crisis

 

its the legacy of extremism. and in a way its exactly what the extremists wanted

 

You really are a meathead.

[boyst]

 

Current state of affair really sucks right now, Trump is seen as a wholly unacceptable partner to work with from the perspective of the Democratic party. The Democrats are about as red hot as the Republicans were in 2010. Their base is in no mood to hand Trump a victory, just like Republicans were with Obama., just that it is even worse now than then., which was pretty !@#$ing bad.

 

There really needs to be a one on one outreach to lots of Democrats in the house and Senate and talk with them, and see if there really is a compromise to be had. Also, if Trump is truly willing to work with Democrats than he needs to say publicly that he is willing to work with Democrats and spell out some of the popular things that Republicans are proposing and compromises that they are willing to make. Schumer and Pelosi have both stated that they are willing to work with Republicans, I think that they are full of ****, but he can call their bluff in a very public manner. There is a compromise to be had that can appease reasonable people from both sides of the aisle.

 

You can definitely introduce some market based reforms and keep the main tenants of Obamacare in place, such as financial assistance and covering people with Pre existing conditions. I don't think they should do that now, they need to try to get him a tax reform bill to pass, I don't think it will be as comprehensive as they had hoped because of this first bill failing, which took out nearly a Trillion dollars worth of cuts in that bill that would have helped fund the tax reform. The Freedom Caucus and a few others really screwed up the agenda for 2017 and now Trump and leadership will have to see how they can navigate around the carnage of the failed bill.

republicans only began to create backlash after Obama began circumventing and ignoring bi partisan politics and poked the bear. They gave him a chance. Trump has no chance and the retarded masses think it is great, sucking up every drop like tasker in the men's room.

 

Things could change now but this is the next 4 yrs

The road to hell is paved with this kind of politithink.

the road to politics is checks and balances. Something disgusting swine democrats have forgotten

[ExiledInIllinois]

Things could change now but this is the next 4 yrs

the road to politics is checks and balances. Something disgusting swine democrats have forgotten

They are all dusgusting swine, both Repubs & Dems.

 

Politics is also a dirty, nasty game... Suck it up Snowflake. You will have your monent to glisten in the sun, beam with specialness.

 

This is what happens when the play moved to a scorch earth game. Snowflakes melt. Now, you want a win-win game after going zero-sum. Now everybody gets lose-lose. Again, suck it up.

 

No quarter asked. NONE given!

Edited March 27, 2017 by ExiledInIllinois