YoloinOhio Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) YOLO: Thanks for the input. Maybe I'm the clueless one. It just seems weird to me that if the agent's job is to get the best deal he can for the player he represents, the agent has to keep any offer received from team "A" a secret from other teams who might want to bid for the player's services. I wonder if the agent is free to disclose team "A'"s offer to the other 31 teams, but isn't supposed to disclose info about that offer to the media. Maybe NFL teams don't want to have to deal with the extra public relations issues that arise when their fans learn of unaccepted offers (as this thread somewhat demonstrates)? It could be as simple as NFL teams wanting to control the timing and manner in which they announce player contracts so that teams aren't blind-sided by media questions from reporters who got the inside scoop before it was publicly announced. That type of limited restriction on disclosure would still allow the agent to disclose Team "A'"s pending but unaccepted offer to the other 31 teams, but give teams control over how contracts that actually get signed are publicly announced. In any event, I'm curious about what the disclosure restrictions on agents about player offers/contracts really are, so if I have time I'll do a little digging and post back in this thread if I find anything. But right now, March Madness calls. so here is how it was explained today on the radio: teams are required to send all official offers to the NFLPA. The NFLPA doesnt grant access to the media. The agents do have access. Some media has gotten credentials from agents to see the info, and they report it. The media is not supposed to have access though. It benefits the agents to have the info reported which is why they share their credentials. The NFLPA had just put out a warning yesterday to the agents that if they share their credentials they will be suspended. They are very angry that this occurred. They did apparently make a human error in filing it, but the fact it was reported as such is against their rules. Edited March 16, 2017 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Moulds on my A** Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 so here is how it was explained today on the radio: teams are required to send all official offers to the NFLPA. The NFLPA doesnt grant access to the media. The agents do have access. Some media has gotten credentials from agents to see the info, and they report it. The media is not supposed to have access though. It benefits the agents to have the info reported which is why they share their credentials. The NFLPA had just put out a warning yesterday to the agents that if they share their credentials they will be suspended. They are very angry that this occurred. Angry That's just 1 thing we've got... in common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Those who are apparently in the wrong are the agent(s) sharing credentials with the media and Rodak for accessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) Someone stoke the fires of this scandal and lets see if we can waft the flames over to Rodak! Edited March 16, 2017 by ndirish1978 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 I already bought his jersey.... Figures See if the poster Holmz will buy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Moulds on my A** Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 See if the poster Holmz will buy it. I've given up on jerseys. I can no longer jinx this team. I got a Kiko jersey on my birthday, minutes after opening it he was injured and out for the entire season.. then promptly traded. I can only wear my Moorman jersey so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Ballstein Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 I've given up on jerseys. I can no longer jinx this team. I got a Kiko jersey on my birthday, minutes after opening it he was injured and out for the entire season.. then promptly traded. I can only wear my Moorman jersey so much. My gf bought me a Sammy for Xmas. I hated Fitz so much I can't stand to see that #14, I wish Sammy would realize it and change his number to obtain better health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuco Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) so here is how it was explained today on the radio: teams are required to send all official offers to the NFLPA. The NFLPA doesnt grant access to the media. The agents do have access. Some media has gotten credentials from agents to see the info, and they report it. The media is not supposed to have access though. It benefits the agents to have the info reported which is why they share their credentials. The NFLPA had just put out a warning yesterday to the agents that if they share their credentials they will be suspended. They are very angry that this occurred. They did apparently make a human error in filing it, but the fact it was reported as such is against their rules. I thought they said it was only reported because somebody at the NFLPA screwed up and put it with the "signed" contracts instead of with the other ones that have to be sent in but aren't signed yet. If that's the case it wasn't really the agent's fault at all. EDIT: I see now it looks like they probably aren't supposed to share the info from the signed ones either they just always do. So yeah, this is what happens when everybody has to be the first to report and the inside source screws up. Edited March 16, 2017 by Tuco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 (edited) so here is how it was explained today on the radio: teams are required to send all official offers to the NFLPA. The NFLPA doesnt grant access to the media. The agents do have access. Some media has gotten credentials from agents to see the info, and they report it. The media is not supposed to have access though. It benefits the agents to have the info reported which is why they share their credentials. The NFLPA had just put out a warning yesterday to the agents that if they share their credentials they will be suspended. They are very angry that this occurred. They did apparently make a human error in filing it, but the fact it was reported as such is against their rules. The more I think about this, the more questions I have about the PA's practice of disclosing offers. I don't think there is a problem with permitting access to offers made to a certain player during a single negotiating cycle AFTER that player has signed. But it seems like offers are disclosed BEFORE the player signs. That, to me, is dangerous. Players are in competition with each other for jobs. Why encourage them to undercut each other? This is a real mess, and I would be livid if I was the player. Edited March 16, 2017 by SectionC3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Moulds on my A** Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 My gf bought me a Sammy for Xmas. I hated Fitz so much I can't stand to see that #14, I wish Sammy would realize it and change his number to obtain better health. Man, I've got that sick feeling Sammy will be leaving us in no time and go on to dominate the league ala Marshawn. Maybe opt for hoodies or those cheap Target tshirts with the number on it. I'd be willing to bet you can get a nice EJ T for cheap. Haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 The more I think about this, the more questions I have about the PA's practice of disclosing offers. I don't think there is a problem with permitting access to offers made to a certain player during a single negotiating cycle AFTER that player has signed. But it seems like offers are disclosed BEFORE the player signs. That, to me, is dangerous. Players are in competition with each other for jobs. Why encourage them to undercut each other? This is a real mess, and I would be livid if I was the player. This is confusing but I think the agents only have access to offers after they have been signed. They give media access to these so they are reported. In this case, it was incorrectly filed as signed and that was the only way anyone saw it. Normally, no one, not even agents, have access to the un-signed offers. Obviously the agent of the player who got the offer would know what it is, but that's it. This is how it sounds to me, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 This is confusing but I think the agents only have access to offers after they have been signed. They give media access to these so they are reported. In this case, it was incorrectly filed as signed and that was the only way anyone saw it. Normally, no one, not even agents, have access to the un-signed offers. Obviously the agent of the player who got the offer would know what it is, but that's it. This is how it sounds to me, anyway. Good clarification. I've long felt that all agents should be lawyers. This mess reinforces that view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Moulds on my A** Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Good clarification. I've long felt that all agents should be lawyers. This mess reinforces that view. If the pen is blue we must pursue. Pen is black, the offer we retract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Mike GarafoloVerified account @MikeGarafolo 25m25 minutes ago WR Andre Holmes is headed to Buffalo today for a visit with the Bills, source says. As of now a deal is (still) not done, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Mike GarafoloVerified account @MikeGarafolo 25m25 minutes ago WR Andre Holmes is headed to Buffalo today for a visit with the Bills, source says. As of now a deal is (still) not done, though. Would be a solid pickup.............. IF it actually takes place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Would be a solid pickup.............. IF it actually takes place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 I think he could be our #2 next year. Philly our slot. Yeah people will complain but let's find out about Watkins before we spend more 1st round picks on WRs. You can always draft a WR high in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Would be a solid pickup.............. IF it actually takes place true... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 I don't get why grown men wear shirts with the names of other, younger men, on their backs. But it seems to be popular, so what do I know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 Mike GarafoloVerified account @MikeGarafolo 25m25 minutes ago WR Andre Holmes is headed to Buffalo today for a visit with the Bills, source says. As of now a deal is (still) not done, though. Holmes just announced on Twitter that he is NOT visiting Buffalo today; apparently he was discussing POTENTIAL flight and hotel options with his agent but NOTHING HAS BEEN BOOKED YET. So stay tuned, he may end up finding a lower fare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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