Deranged Rhino Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 That depends. What are you cooking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 That depends. What are you cooking? Thick pork chops in a creamy herb sauce ... legal herbs that is ... over onion garlic mashed spuds Nice plate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Oh look, someone who knows nothing about guns making a gun argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Thick pork chops in a creamy herb sauce ... legal herbs that is ... over onion garlic mashed spuds Herb is legal. Well at least here anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted February 25, 2017 Share Posted February 25, 2017 Herb is legal. Well at least here anyway. It's not legal anywhere in the United States. It's prohibited at the Federal level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blzrul Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 I think you'll find that while most people here tend to take a dim view of smoking weed, they are also largely against keeping it illegal. That said: Marijuana is illegal per federal law. Federal law supersedes state law. The Obama administration only decided to not enforce existing marijuana laws, they did not rescind them. People's problem lately is that they mischaracterize a law or policy, and then complain about it and criticize it. Get it right, for %$#% sake. Only then can you actually address it. 40 states allow medical marijuana, which it pretty much at this point what the feds have focused on. The recreational industry is a whole other ballgame. It should get interesting. But if you look at the $$$ in WA and CO related to the recreational industry, there ain't no way that passel of greedy bastards in DC are doing to shut it down.They'll do just what the states do, allow it and tax the hell out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 i agree with fraud chef, im not comfortable with stoners driving stoned all the time. its probably safer than booze driving but its still a hazard. id like to see them perfect a breath test or some other field test for weed before its legalized nationally They already do... And you haven't noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meathead Posted February 26, 2017 Author Share Posted February 26, 2017 they already do what? please provide links Don’t Hold Your Breath for a Marijuana “Breathalyzer” Test Technology closes in on a roadside device to check pot levels—but the definition of stoned driving remains elusive. Although many researchers and companies dream of fielding a roadside test for driving under the influence of cannabis, such a product may still remain years away from practical service use. Millions of dollars’ worth of speculative research will likely be needed to correlate data about consumption amounts with actual driver impairment. And the issue of stoned driving remains enormously complex, with experts still highly uncertain about marijuana’s precise effects on cognition and competence. This fall a California-based company called Hound Labs announced it has developed a portable breathalyzer-like device called the Hound that could quantify recent cannabis use in the breath—the latest in a series of claims in the field. But like its predecessors, this product will have to run a tough gauntlet of medical and legal complexities. “There’s a little bit of hype,” says Nick Morrow, a retired Los Angeles County Sheriff deputy and court-qualified expert in drug symptomatology who has taught a drug recognition course for officers. “The good thing about the U.S. is if there’s a way to make a dollar, you can bet people will be lined up around the block to make the next best mousetrap. That’s what’s going on with cannabis testing. Breath, oral, fluid, saliva—all of them are competing to come out with the easiest, greatest devices,” Morrow says. “Maybe those devices aren’t ready for prime time yet, but everybody wants to get the patents. As far as having something that really works, defense and prosecutors can agree—the science is not there yet.” https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/don-t-hold-your-breath-for-a-marijuana-breathalyzer-test/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Noooooo, I'm talking the ones that can take out a roomful of people in a matter of seconds, must be different ones we're talking about. Oh, you mean assault guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 People already drive stoned and you don't even notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 People already drive stoned and you don't even notice. Yes, we do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 40 states allow medical marijuana, which it pretty much at this point what the feds have focused on. The recreational industry is a whole other ballgame. It should get interesting. But if you look at the $$$ in WA and CO related to the recreational industry, there ain't no way that passel of greedy bastards in DC are doing to shut it down.They'll do just what the states do, allow it and tax the hell out of it. You didn't say anything about medical marijuana. You stated your belief in the possibility of the feds re-criminalizing marijuana (quoted in your points 1 & 2 below). Again, most here will not disagree that marijuana should be legal, but the fact remains that despite what states may decide to do with regard to marijuana laws, it will always be illegal until the feds revoke it's illegality. Even in states that legally allow medical marijuana, you'd damn well better have a prescription for it if you're caught with it or you're headed for jail. 1) If they re-criminalize weed, that means all those for-profit prisons will fill up again. Cha-CHING. 2) If they threaten to re-criminalize weed, it may scare the small business owners who make up the industry. Then the corporate interests can move in and take over. Cha-CHING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 People already drive stoned and you don't even notice. So you're cool with people driving impaired? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 (edited) So you're cool with people driving impaired?Doesn't matter most aren't good either way. I am not cool with other people driving at all. What I am saying is it is happening just as much now as it would even if it was legalized. TBH it might happen less... Edited February 26, 2017 by Beef Jerky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 So you're cool with people driving impaired? Some people probably drive better stoned. See what happened in New Orleans? Too bad that guy hadn't smoked instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorkington Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 If someone is a danger, they get pulled over, and if the officer sees that the driver is impaired, they take care of it the usual way. I don't really see how that's any different than now. There's two groups of people that would smoke when legal... those who already smoke, so they are already a possible 'danger' for impaired driving... and those who might give it a try since it's legal, but before hand were worried since it wasn't.... these people probably aren't the type to drive while impaired. Not really convinced that's a good argument for keeping marijuana illegal, if anything that's an argument for banning all substances that can impair driving (which also includes various legal medications, not just stuff like alcohol). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 . Not really convinced that's a good argument for keeping marijuana illegal, if anything that's an argument for banning all substances that can impair driving (which also includes various legal medications, not just stuff like alcohol). No, if anything it's an argument for prosecuting anyone who is caught driving under the influence of anything that impairs perception or reaction time. What people choose to do with their minds and bodies at home is fine, but once they bring that behavior into public they become a potential threat to others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 No, if anything it's an argument for prosecuting anyone who is caught driving under the influence of anything that impairs perception or reaction time. What people choose to do with their minds and bodies at home is fine, but once they bring that behavior into public they become a potential threat to others. Well that already happens... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Well that already happens... So keep it that way. No need to start being ambiguities like "driving stoned is different than driving drunk" into the conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Some people probably think they drive better stoned. Fixed Doesn't matter most aren't good either way. I am not cool with other people driving at all. What I am saying is it is happening just as much now as it would even if it was legalized. TBH it might happen less... Why less? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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