26CornerBlitz Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 @AP_Top25 BREAKING: NCAA orders Notre Dame to vacate wins from 2012-13 and 2013-14 football seasons in academic misconduct case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Oh boy this should be interesting. Honestly I'm not sure how good schools like ND or Stanford can compete without some sort of academic agreements in place to keep the players eligible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Bahahaha this guy. @LakeLitman What culpability does the head coach have in this case? Brian Kelly: "Zero. Absolutely none." #asusual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Why do they just vacate the wins? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 vacating wins is a joke. It's like something from a George Orwell book: "these wins never happened." Talk about re-writing history. It's not like they give wins to the teams they beat, it's like the games never happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Why do they just vacate the wins? i like your style. as a Bills fan, can we vacate our last 30 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 (edited) vacating wins is a joke. It's like something from a George Orwell book: "these wins never happened." Talk about re-writing history. It's not like they give wins to the teams they beat, it's like the games never happened. except for Kelly, whose coaching record will now be absent those wins. He has to be done there, right? Manti Teo thinks they still exist though Edited November 22, 2016 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Oh boy this should be interesting. Honestly I'm not sure how good schools like ND or Stanford can compete without some sort of academic agreements in place to keep the players eligible. That's why they have such a hard time competing any more against the top teams. Why do they just vacate the wins? Dumbest 'punishment' ever, be it Carroll's USC team, ND or anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 i like your style. as a Bills fan, can we vacate our last 30 seasons. I would like to vacate any season with the dark blue jerseys. That was a sad time in our history Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 22, 2016 Author Share Posted November 22, 2016 @EHansenNDI Coach Brian Kelly said Notre Dame will appeal the NCAA penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 (edited) Oh boy this should be interesting. Honestly I'm not sure how good schools like ND or Stanford can compete without some sort of academic agreements in place to keep the players eligible. I couldn't more. Stanford and ND are great schools, but people shouldn't believe for a second that the same admissions standards apply to football as the rest of the student body. If that were the case they would be in division three. Even the great academic schools bend the rules. It really doesn't matter if you are Stanford or FSU, either way you'll need to cheat to keep guys elgible. Edited November 22, 2016 by DriveFor1Outta5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l< j Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Manti Teo thinks they still exist though Too good to allow to be buried. Comment of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 22, 2016 Author Share Posted November 22, 2016 Too good to allow to be buried. Comment of the week. Leave the poor guy alone. @JeffEisenband Manti Te'o: "It was so great when I won 12 games in 2012." Reporters: "Those wins don't exist." Manti Te'o: "Are you kidding me? Not again." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kkspike Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Lucky the Irish 4-7 record this year means they are still bowl eligible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Of course Kelly says this effects his standing with the university in no way, shape, or form. Gives him another chance to blame his players with a smile on his face. I hope he gets the LSU job and leaves. At this point, I think I would rather have Weis or even Willingham back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagel Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I couldn't more. Stanford and ND are great schools, but people shouldn't believe for a second that the same admissions standards apply to football as the rest of the student body. If that were the case they would be in division three. Even the great academic schools bend the rules. It really doesn't matter if you are Stanford or FSU, either way you'll need to cheat to keep guys elgible. I don't know what you are basing this on, but having taught athletes at Stanford -- including Stanford football players -- I can assure you that this is not my experience. I determined their grades and there was no "cheating" to keep them eligible. I was not involved with admissions, but once on campus Stanford football players took the same courses and met the same academic requirements as their fellow Stanford students. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I don't know what you are basing this on, but having taught athletes at Stanford -- including Stanford football players -- I can assure you that this is not my experience. I determined their grades and there was no "cheating" to keep them eligible. I was not involved with admissions, but once on campus Stanford football players took the same courses and met the same academic requirements as their fellow Stanford students. That was always what i thought...ND, Stanford, the Ivy's...you might be able to get in with lowered standards than the average bear...but once there it is sink or swim. Granted, they have academic advisors on every team, and i assume on revenue teams like BB and Football...like a ratio of 3 athletes per advisor/tutor. My daughter is Senior this year and was recruited in a non-revenue sport..her coach always said 3 seconds faster in a 200 is worth more than extra 100 on the SAT...and man is that ever true! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DriveFor1Outta5 Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 That was always what i thought...ND, Stanford, the Ivy's...you might be able to get in with lowered standards than the average bear...but once there it is sink or swim. Granted, they have academic advisors on every team, and i assume on revenue teams like BB and Football...like a ratio of 3 athletes per advisor/tutor. My daughter is Senior this year and was recruited in a non-revenue sport..her coach always said 3 seconds faster in a 200 is worth more than extra 100 on the SAT...and man is that ever true! Doesn't ND vacating these wins due to academic agreements prove that these schools aren't always "sink or swim" for athletes? I don't know what you are basing this on, but having taught athletes at Stanford -- including Stanford football players -- I can assure you that this is not my experience. I determined their grades and there was no "cheating" to keep them eligible. I was not involved with admissions, but once on campus Stanford football players took the same courses and met the same academic requirements as their fellow Stanford students. I'm bashing ND for what just came out. I'm also bashing the people who claim this never happens at "good" schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Seems, to me, to be an excessive penalty. Meanwhile, what has happened to NC this time around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Seems, to me, to be an excessive penalty. Meanwhile, what has happened to NC this time around? They have to call themselves "NC State West Campus?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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