Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 19, 2017 Share Posted March 19, 2017 Hmmm...seems like the Chancellor, Kent Syverud, changed his stance on Boeheim in the wake of Hop jumping ship. I had heard from 2 different people that JB had previously requested a contract extension and was denied by Kent. Glad to learn GMac is staying put. Perhaps he had an offer on the table at Washington and decided to stay after Boeheim was extended? Who knows... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 (edited) I am wondering if JB wanted to stay, and Hopkins left so it wouldn't be an awkward situation with Kent effectively forcing him out. Maybe JB sticks for 4 more years, hangs it up on his own terms, and then Hop comes back then. Edit: from espn, this seems to confirm the above: One of the reasons Hopkins left, sources told ESPN, was to relieve Boeheim of the pressure of having to retire. Hopkins had a contract that stated he was set to take over after the 2017-18 season. Edited March 20, 2017 by JR in Pittsburgh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 I am wondering if JB wanted to stay, and Hopkins left so it wouldn't be an awkward situation with Kent effectively forcing him out. Maybe JB sticks for 4 more years, hangs it up on his own terms, and then Hop comes back then. Edit: from espn, this seems to confirm the above: One of the reasons Hopkins left, sources told ESPN, was to relieve Boeheim of the pressure of having to retire. Hopkins had a contract that stated he was set to take over after the 2017-18 season. Quite possibly true, but I wonder about the rumors surrounding the recruiting disagreements between JB and Hop. There also was an alleged disagreement between the two about how to handle the "Howard situation." Hop wanted him gone...JB overruled. But again...who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greybeard Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 I think this is a good move for Hopkins. Gives him time to establish himself out of JB's shadow. The pressure to win is going to be great after Boeheim. Never follow a legend. It won't be easy for anyone who comes next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 I think this is a good move for Hopkins. Gives him time to establish himself out of JB's shadow. The pressure to win is going to be great after Boeheim. Never follow a legend. It won't be easy for anyone who comes next. Hop deserves better and I wish him well. It appears that he got a total screw job by Syracuse University, landed nicely on his feet in a very good situation, and is behaving like a classy individual...as always. Great recruitor, and I hope he is an even better HC (as long as Wash is not playing SU). Get 'em Hop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 What's the use of naming a coach in waiting if it really doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 What's the use of naming a coach in waiting if it really doesn't matter. The whole idea was stupid to begin with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 What's the use of naming a coach in waiting if it really doesn't matter. Because the university was fully planning on Hop being the HC after next season when the decision was announced. Hop was squeezed out. There is a great deal of "information" flying around now as to how and why this happened, but based on what I have heard, I sincerely believe Hop fully expected to be the next HC of Syracuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 keep passing along whatever you hear. I have heard more than once, John Belein's name....can't we please get away from the consecutive vowels names(ei, ie)???? Can't imagine syracuse is a step up from michigan/big 10, despite his roots in the area Because the university was fully planning on Hop being the HC after next season when the decision was announced. Hop was squeezed out. There is a great deal of "information" flying around now as to how and why this happened, but based on what I have heard, I sincerely believe Hop fully expected to be the next HC of Syracuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 I think Hop was a great recruiter but wasn't too sure about his coaching acumen, and with how built up our program is, we should be able to lure a big name coach when JB decides to hang em up. Unless JB insists we hire someone who will run his 2-3 zone after him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 As an aside, reading comments on ESPN and the like, I never realized how many people out there hate on Cuse and Boeheim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 Boeheim is an easy target, he makes it easy for the haters As an aside, reading comments on ESPN and the like, I never realized how many people out there hate on Cuse and Boeheim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 (edited) He needs another year Brent AxeVerified account @BrentAxeMedia 5m5 minutes agoMore Brent Axe Retweeted Jon Rothstein That didn't take long. Brent Axe added, Jon RothsteinVerified account @JonRothstein Syracuse's Tyler Lydon will sign with an agent and enter the 2017 NBA Draft, per multiple sources. 1 reply0 retweets2 likes Reply 1 Retweet Like 2 Edited March 20, 2017 by The Poojer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 He needs another year Capture.JPG Brent AxeVerified account @BrentAxeMedia 5m5 minutes agoMore Brent Axe Retweeted Jon Rothstein That didn't take long. Brent Axe added, Jon RothsteinVerified account @JonRothstein Syracuse's Tyler Lydon will sign with an agent and enter the 2017 NBA Draft, per multiple sources. 1 reply0 retweets2 likes Reply 1 Retweet Like 2 Geez. He needs another 2 years. He's not D-League ready, IMO. I don't get why he signed with an agent too. Loses all flexibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 he's listed as a power forward and i just don't see the skill set even being close to some of the starters in the league, AD, Kristop, Dario etc...hell, even the small forwards are completely out of his current league....i guess my hope is he plays for against the 87ers in Delaware so i get the opportunity to see him, cus i sure as hell won't be seeing him the Wells Fargo anytime soon Geez. He needs another 2 years. He's not D-League ready, IMO. I don't get why he signed with an agent too. Loses all flexibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Geez. He needs another 2 years. He's not D-League ready, IMO. I don't get why he signed with an agent too. Loses all flexibility. He informed his team in the locker room after the Ole Miss game. I have eluded to the "toxicity" that has existed behind the scenes not only between the players, but between the coaching staff. This is one of the main reasons Tyler is leaving. If he could play right away elsewhere, I think he would transfer. Shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 do you get the sense that this is mostly on Boeheim? I can't believe that someone in his position would be that 'pigheaded' to throw his hall of fame career down the drain, or is this something maybe where Hop might have pushed the limits too much and possible stepped over the line? He informed his team in the locker room after the Ole Miss game. I have eluded to the "toxicity" that has existed behind the scenes not only between the players, but between the coaching staff. This is one of the main reasons Tyler is leaving. If he could play right away elsewhere, I think he would transfer. Shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Hammersticks Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 do you get the sense that this is mostly on Boeheim? I can't believe that someone in his position would be that 'pigheaded' to throw his hall of fame career down the drain, or is this something maybe where Hop might have pushed the limits too much and possible stepped over the line? do you get the sense that this is mostly on Boeheim? I can't believe that someone in his position would be that 'pigheaded' to throw his hall of fame career down the drain, or is this something maybe where Hop might have pushed the limits too much and possible stepped over the line? The situation between JB and Hop, from what I can gather, was that Hop felt that JB should have been giving him more latitude in making decisions that would affect the roster for the next few seasons. I mentioned the 2 JUCO transfers that Hop wanted to offer, but was overruled by Boeheim. There also was the situation with Frank Howard. Hop went to the AD and Chancellor and wanted him off the team. JB then went to bat and overruled. Hop took offense. It is my understanding their relationship has been strained for a while now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 He needs another year Capture.JPG Brent AxeVerified account @BrentAxeMedia 5m5 minutes agoMore Brent Axe Retweeted Jon Rothstein That didn't take long. Brent Axe added, Jon RothsteinVerified account @JonRothstein Syracuse's Tyler Lydon will sign with an agent and enter the 2017 NBA Draft, per multiple sources. 1 reply0 retweets2 likes Reply 1 Retweet Like 2 Noooooo say it aint so! Way to ruin my day............ The situation between JB and Hop, from what I can gather, was that Hop felt that JB should have been giving him more latitude in making decisions that would affect the roster for the next few seasons. I mentioned the 2 JUCO transfers that Hop wanted to offer, but was overruled by Boeheim. There also was the situation with Frank Howard. Hop went to the AD and Chancellor and wanted him off the team. JB then went to bat and overruled. Hop took offense. It is my understanding their relationship has been strained for a while now. Why did he want Howard off the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Poojer Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 i think Hammer told us Howard did something boneheaded that ran a recruit away recently Noooooo say it aint so! Way to ruin my day............ Why did he want Howard off the team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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