jr1 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 another failed whiz kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 The Chargers have wasted Phillip Rivers career since 2009. The Chargers have had 1 playoff appearance since 2009 and have not had a record better than 9-7 since 2009 either. The Chargers results from 2010 to 2015 aren't terrible if they were a team struggling to find a QB but they had a prime true franchise QB (Unarguably a top 7 QB if not higher) during that period. Having a franchise QB is such a devastating advantage in the NFL you should be consistently in the playoffs and over 10 wins a year. The Chargers are just awful they need to clean house now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 I predict they will beat Denver at home on TNF, prolonging the McCoy nightmare. If they lose he's finally gone IMO. They will win and the fans will be pissed. They have Ken WhisenPunt lurking in the shadows waiting to be named interim HC. Denver is the team they will beat?? Ok.. Anyway, Rivers and the Charger have a long history of choking that extends back before McCoy was named HC.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 12, 2016 Author Share Posted October 12, 2016 (edited) could not disagree more...everything you point out are players making physical mistakes...how is that related to coaching? Now , may be they need a change ...but dude can coach. As an aside, i feel awful for Charger fans. This year is so critical to them staying there...and if they were 4-1 instead of 1-4..maybe they got a chance. I always think ole Flutie saved our beloved Bills with his 98 season, think the Chargers are having the exact opposite Amazing how good coaches don't have these type of things happen while poor coaches always seem to have these things happen... After seeing time and time again how much of a difference a good coach or manager can make with the exact same employees I seriously don't understand how someone can look at results like this and say they have nothing to do with coaching. You've obviously never been involved in seeing first hand what a difference going from a bad leader to a good leader can make and vice versa...I have many times, and I am telling without a doubt his poor leadership plays a very large, if not the biggest role in this. Edited October 12, 2016 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Hoodie wins without a QB. What were they, 10-6 the year Brady went down in game 1? 3-1 this year without Brady. 11-5 I believe with Cassel. Just nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Rivers throws too many picks. -Period. I get that he's fantasy GOLD, but that doesn't equate to elite status on the field in real time... Talks too much trash... Poor leader. (perhaps as a result of the aforementioned).... and again, Rivers throws WAY too many picks at critical points in close games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 could not disagree more...everything you point out are players making physical mistakes...how is that related to coaching? Now , may be they need a change ...but dude can coach. As an aside, i feel awful for Charger fans. This year is so critical to them staying there...and if they were 4-1 instead of 1-4..maybe they got a chance. I always think ole Flutie saved our beloved Bills with his 98 season, think the Chargers are having the exact opposite I agree, Paul, on all counts (including Flutie playing a role in saving the Bills). It's absolutely mind-blowing how the Bolts have lost these games and I can't put the blame on coaching. For crissake, last week the punter let a perfect snap go right through his hands on the tying FG attempt. They talk about teams you "don't want to play" -- I'm very glad the Bills don't play SD this year. They will ruin somebody's season (besides their own). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Mike McCoy had the Chargers in the playoffs in his first year as HC after Norv Turner destroyed a Marty Schottenheimer built playoff team. Anyway, what to me is incredible is the way Phillip Rivers can win some games all by himself with a bad defense and a non-existent run game. (last year) Last years stats, 667 passing attempts vs 393 rushing attempts. Yikes! This season it's not as bad with 173 passing vs 124 rushing and the offense under SD OC Ken Whisenhunt is #2 in points and #8 in yards. Meanwhile, another Pagano like the Colts HC that should be fired is John Pagano the Chargers DC! That Charger defense is ranked 28 in points allowed and 23 in yards allowed. Another thing is half the team is on IR already and one-third of the remaining players look to be questionable. Right now Mike McCoy is 23-30 and won't have a job much longer if he doesn't fix that defense. He should start by firing Pagano. JMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 12, 2016 Author Share Posted October 12, 2016 San Diego did set a dubious mark a few years ago by being the #1 offense and #1 defense in the NFL and still missed the playoffs which is unfathomable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 Amazing how good coaches don't have these type of things happen while poor coaches always seem to have these things happen... After seeing time and time again how much of a difference a good coach or manager can make with the exact same employees I seriously don't understand how someone can look at results like this and say they have nothing to do with coaching. You've obviously never been involved in seeing first hand what a difference going from a bad leader to a good leader can make and vice versa...I have many times, and I am telling without a doubt his poor leadership plays a very large, if not the biggest role in this. bad coaches do not put people in situations where they can be successful....good coaches do.As McCoy has done.But it is up to the players to perform physically. McCoy has that team in positon to win every single week, and the players have lost them games through physical mistakes. If these were all mental mistakes..or even some of them were ..on McCoy. Physical is on the player plain and simple. Ans please do not suggest i don't know what it takes to win on high level of competition...I do! And sports is not business, or volunteer groups, or any other kind of organization in any way, shape, or form. I know i made more than one bone -headed play that had nothing to do with coaching..had everything to do with me not getting the job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Lamb Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 (edited) The problem resides with ownership - no commitment to excellence - like so many teams The Spanos family is replaying a version of "Major League" in their foolish quest for a new stadium. Edited October 13, 2016 by Bob Lamb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 There is no accountability from the top down. They turn the ball over too much too. That said - their color rush jerseys are niceee and I hope they win tonight over the donkeys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Lamb Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 The Broncos are wearing all orange - that should be visually painful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Instead of betting on the Chargers or Broncos, you should bet how soon Mike McCoy gets fired http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2016/10/13/13268708/2016-nfl-picks-predictions-chargers-vs-broncos-betting-spread-week-6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Lamb Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Firing the coach will not address the Chargers' ills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoho Posted October 13, 2016 Share Posted October 13, 2016 Firing the coach will not address the Chargers' ills Prodigy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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