cåblelady Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 Upon further review, isn't it possible that TD is the source his own self?DeCeserie correctly points out, TD has a history of not being very loyal to his players. 248451[/snapback] So TD's a bastard, too ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmicBills Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 So TD's a bastard, too ? 248461[/snapback] I thought you knew by now, all men are bastards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cåblelady Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 I thought you knew by now, all men are bastards 248465[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 I thought you knew by now, all men are bastards 248465[/snapback] No just the ones that she marries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cåblelady Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 No just the ones that she marries. 248471[/snapback] .......and divorces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake-Fat Sunny Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 I thought you knew by now, all men are bastards 248465[/snapback] I agree. i for one would never marry a man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 I agree. i for one would never marry a man. 248481[/snapback] I should hope not. I'd imagine Olean isn't open to that kind of lifestyle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 I'm not saying the wind cost the Bills the game. I'm saying it speaks volumes about Drew if he goes out there and intentionally disobeyes the coaches. It goes beyond arrogant. It is flat out poor leadership. How could you possibly defend Drew's actions? Combine that with Drew's PC and comments about JP, and it shows me there was a lot of trouble brewing behind the scenes that we weren't privy too. I'm not saying Drew is a bad guy, but it seems to me like he had worn out his welcome with teammates and coaches. So, I say again, good riddence. 248435[/snapback] The wind was not a factor that day at all. But since King made a point of introducing it as a major factor for coaches being pi&&ed at Bledsoe, at least he should have checked the facts. My theory of the rat is Donahoe himself, aided by the coaching staff. King zeroed in on three games where DB was absolutely pathetic, where a caual fan could observe that the defense & special teams didn't bail him out. I can only imagine what the coaches dissecting in the post-game film room. The reason I think the administration is trashing DB is the hard stance he took in his contract renegotiation last year. To get a $8mil payday in '04, after a horrendous '03 was truly bizarre to me, and I'm sure it didn't sit well with Wilson as well. I'm guessing that much of the sour grapes emanating from OBD are contract related, and people who spend $8mil on a bum, should have the right to quietly call the guy a bum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-biscut Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 The wind was not a factor that day at all. But since King made a point of introducing it as a major factor for coaches being pi&&ed at Bledsoe, at least he should have checked the facts. My theory of the rat is Donahoe himself, aided by the coaching staff. King zeroed in on three games where DB was absolutely pathetic, where a caual fan could observe that the defense & special teams didn't bail him out. I can only imagine what the coaches dissecting in the post-game film room. The reason I think the administration is trashing DB is the hard stance he took in his contract renegotiation last year. To get a $8mil payday in '04, after a horrendous '03 was truly bizarre to me, and I'm sure it didn't sit well with Wilson as well. I'm guessing that much of the sour grapes emanating from OBD are contract related, and people who spend $8mil on a bum, should have the right to quietly call the guy a bum 248506[/snapback] Its just seems odd that all the important facts in this story are wrong. Becasue of this I can't really take the story seriously. I don't doubt that Drew often felt the presure pull out the big play led to some of his problems, but I have never heard of him intentionally going over a coaches head in the 12 years he's been in the league. Drew got old, his brain was writing check his arm was no longer able to cash. End of story. If the Bills were so upset with his character, why did MM and TD try so hard to get him to stay as a back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted February 22, 2005 Author Share Posted February 22, 2005 The wind was not a factor that day at all. But since King made a point of introducing it as a major factor for coaches being pi&&ed at Bledsoe, at least he should have checked the facts. My theory of the rat is Donahoe himself, aided by the coaching staff. King zeroed in on three games where DB was absolutely pathetic, where a caual fan could observe that the defense & special teams didn't bail him out. I can only imagine what the coaches dissecting in the post-game film room. The reason I think the administration is trashing DB is the hard stance he took in his contract renegotiation last year. To get a $8mil payday in '04, after a horrendous '03 was truly bizarre to me, and I'm sure it didn't sit well with Wilson as well. I'm guessing that much of the sour grapes emanating from OBD are contract related, and people who spend $8mil on a bum, should have the right to quietly call the guy a bum 248506[/snapback] gerry, i really don't think it was donohoe - it's really not his style. when he lets someone go, he's very tightlipped (rob johnson, neil o'donnell, holocek, henry jones, etc.) and has a longstanding reputation of keeping in touch with former players (sending them cards and letters). my sense is that he's pretty straitlaced when it comes to these matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted February 22, 2005 Author Share Posted February 22, 2005 I give your theory some creedance (I have my source at One Bills Drive), but my only question would be, hasn't Peter King been one of Bledsoe's biggest national media supporters? I could be wrong, but I seem to remember him gushing over all things Bledsoe over the years... 248436[/snapback] king hasn't said anything nice lately about bledsoe, though. he was positively withering in his assessment of bledsoe's play in the pittsburgh game (which king attended): http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/writ...03/mmqb.week17/ Goat of the Week Buffalo QB Drew Bledsoe. A grim, dinosaur-like performance by a guy who, when confronted by a confusing, attacking defense (New England, Pittsburgh) looks too old to be really good anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obie_wan Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 The wind was not a factor that day at all. But since King made a point of introducing it as a major factor for coaches being pi&&ed at Bledsoe, at least he should have checked the facts. My theory of the rat is Donahoe himself, aided by the coaching staff. King zeroed in on three games where DB was absolutely pathetic, where a caual fan could observe that the defense & special teams didn't bail him out. I can only imagine what the coaches dissecting in the post-game film room. The reason I think the administration is trashing DB is the hard stance he took in his contract renegotiation last year. To get a $8mil payday in '04, after a horrendous '03 was truly bizarre to me, and I'm sure it didn't sit well with Wilson as well. I'm guessing that much of the sour grapes emanating from OBD are contract related, and people who spend $8mil on a bum, should have the right to quietly call the guy a bum 248506[/snapback] absolutely correct. If Drew was such a standup team guy, he would have voluntarily deferred that $2 mil option payment from November 2004 to the end of the year and played under his old contract. Good play would have resulted in a good contract. Instead, he forced the Bills to extend him and cut his pay to $8.75 mil. For the effort, TD expected to get at least marginal production for 2004 and 2005. Now, he has to eat the dead money because Drew is more of a liablility than an asset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 I don't care anymore what DB did or said during his tenure here in Buffalo. I don't care if he screwed up the coin flip, stunk up the john, drinks PBR, has no pocket presence, can't move, etc.... WHO FUGGIN' CARES...He is ancient history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 I dont see TD, Wyche, JP or anybody with a name leaking this story. it makes no sense. It seems to me like a water boy or Billy Buffalo leaked this story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 I don't care anymore what DB did or said during his tenure here in Buffalo. I don't care if he screwed up the coin flip, stunk up the john, drinks PBR, has no pocket presence, can't move, etc.... WHO FUGGIN' CARES...He is ancient history. 248715[/snapback] WHY THE FUG is his name still on the 2005 roster on buffalobills.com?I want it gone by 5 PM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 WHY THE FUG is his name still on the 2005 roster on buffalobills.com?I want it gone by 5 PM! 248722[/snapback] Once again, I blame the midget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 I'm not saying the wind cost the Bills the game. I'm saying it speaks volumes about Drew if he goes out there and intentionally disobeyes the coaches. It goes beyond arrogant. It is flat out poor leadership. How could you possibly defend Drew's actions? Combine that with Drew's PC and comments about JP, and it shows me there was a lot of trouble brewing behind the scenes that we weren't privy too. I'm not saying Drew is a bad guy, but it seems to me like he had worn out his welcome with teammates and coaches. So, I say again, good riddence. 248435[/snapback] The reaction to that story just shows that the ant-Drew hysteria still lingers on even after he is gone. Even if you believe King who thus far is the only source that this event happened at all, the story he told is that when he got out on the field Drew thought the wind was coming from a different direction than they thought. Now, if you are Drew and the wind is coming from the opposite direction than was thought once you got out to the field, what would you do? Would you conclude that your ability to sense wind direction was somehow freakishly defective and just blindly go with the original call despite all your senses telling you the wind direction had changed? Or, would you conclude that as your senses tell you, the wind has in fact changed? It isn't like he had a bat phone to pick up and ask MM: "Hey, the wind out here is coming from the opposite direction, what should I do?" It wasn't a "stunt" it was a judgment call he made on the spot based on what he believed to be true. If a sweep to the right is called and in the middle of the play Willis cuts the opposite way because, as he percieved it, the called direction of the play was going nowhere, would you accuse him of pulling off a "stunt"?? The eagerness with which so many here have embraced this unsourced gossip from King as gospel truth and of sufficient truth to blast Bledsoe is shameful. We watched this guy lead the team for 3 years and, say what you want about his foot speed or touch on short passes, he always conducted himself honorably and with dignity. To accept as true a gossipy story from a hack like King that completely flies in the face of what we have seen up close now for 3 years is childish. It sounds to me like the worst kind of scapegoating after one of the most embarassing losses in franchise history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 The reaction to that story just shows that the ant-Drew hysteria still lingers on even after he is gone. Even if you believe King who thus far is the only source that this event happened at all, the story he told is that when he got out on the field Drew thought the wind was coming from a different direction than they thought. Now, if you are Drew and the wind is coming from the opposite direction than was thought once you got out to the field, what would you do? Would you conclude that your ability to sense wind direction was somehow freakishly defective and just blindly go with the original call despite all your senses telling you the wind direction had changed? Or, would you conclude that as your senses tell you, the wind has in fact changed? It isn't like he had a bat phone to pick up and ask MM: "Hey, the wind out here is coming from the opposite direction, what should I do?" It wasn't a "stunt" it was a judgment call he made on the spot based on what he believed to be true. If a sweep to the right is called and in the middle of the play Willis cuts the opposite way because, as he percieved it, the called direction of the play was going nowhere, would you accuse him of pulling off a "stunt"?? The eagerness with which so many here have embraced this unsourced gossip from King as gospel truth and of sufficient truth to blast Bledsoe is shameful. We watched this guy lead the team for 3 years and, say what you want about his foot speed or touch on short passes, he always conducted himself honorably and with dignity. To accept as true a gossipy story from a hack like King that completely flies in the face of what we have seen up close now for 3 years is childish. It sounds to me like the worst kind of scapegoating after one of the most embarassing losses in franchise history. 248770[/snapback] Here, here! Leave it to Mickey to get it right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 The reaction to that story just shows that the ant-Drew hysteria still lingers on even after he is gone. Even if you believe King who thus far is the only source that this event happened at all, the story he told is that when he got out on the field Drew thought the wind was coming from a different direction than they thought. Now, if you are Drew and the wind is coming from the opposite direction than was thought once you got out to the field, what would you do? Would you conclude that your ability to sense wind direction was somehow freakishly defective and just blindly go with the original call despite all your senses telling you the wind direction had changed? Or, would you conclude that as your senses tell you, the wind has in fact changed? It isn't like he had a bat phone to pick up and ask MM: "Hey, the wind out here is coming from the opposite direction, what should I do?" It wasn't a "stunt" it was a judgment call he made on the spot based on what he believed to be true. If a sweep to the right is called and in the middle of the play Willis cuts the opposite way because, as he percieved it, the called direction of the play was going nowhere, would you accuse him of pulling off a "stunt"?? The eagerness with which so many here have embraced this unsourced gossip from King as gospel truth and of sufficient truth to blast Bledsoe is shameful. We watched this guy lead the team for 3 years and, say what you want about his foot speed or touch on short passes, he always conducted himself honorably and with dignity. To accept as true a gossipy story from a hack like King that completely flies in the face of what we have seen up close now for 3 years is childish. It sounds to me like the worst kind of scapegoating after one of the most embarassing losses in franchise history. 248770[/snapback] Finally. Someone who makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawgg Posted February 22, 2005 Share Posted February 22, 2005 I disagree. I think this is a very minor point and had little to do with the outcome of the Steelers loss. However, the point King makes (and he makes this relatively clear) was that this parallels a problem that many coaches have found with Drew Bledsoe: he is stubborn. It is virtually impossible to get him to settle for that dump off pass when the big play isn't there... all too often, he sits back looking for a big play even when instructed not to. Look at the Pittsburgh game when he fumbled the ball away for a TD. Same thing happened against New England. Bottom line, Bledsoe is stubborn. And that was the point the article was making. And as far as that assessment is concerned, I agree. To accept as true a gossipy story from a hack like King that completely flies in the face of what we have seen up close now for 3 years is childish.It sounds to me like the worst kind of scapegoating after one of the most embarassing losses in franchise history. 248770[/snapback] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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