Magox Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 mmhmmm Yep, I'm sure if the White House just allowed people to go right up to it, that everything would be kosher. Kumbaya, you name it. 1 1
B-Man Posted June 4, 2020 Author Posted June 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jaraxxus said: Can't really have an honest conversation with people on the left or in this movement, because they begin from a point of dishonesty. Amen. 3
Dante Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 (edited) One positive out all this bullshite. For all the hard work the left has done at gun grabbing, this has set it back 30 years. In fact, they are going to be more popular than ever. All the fake mass shooting. The constant fear tactics traumatizing young kids in elementary schools with active shooter drills. On and on, all for not. No one in their right mind would give up personal protection now. Edited June 4, 2020 by Dante 7
Deranged Rhino Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, Magox said: mmhmmm Yep, I'm sure if the White House just allowed people to go right up to it, that everything would be kosher. Kumbaya, you name it. It's so transparent... Why does she want this? To spark more riots near the White House. Why does she want that? To get people to storm the grounds. Why does she want that? So that when those people storm the grounds they get turned to mist by the USSS. Why does she want that? Imagine the propaganda and photo ops that would bring. 4 1
billsfan1959 Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Well said. The standard for the use of deadly physical force appears in Penal Law article 35 in New York State. And, at least in NYS, officer-initiated deaths are reviewed by the AG’s office so as to take local politics out of the equation. As those instances should be. We’re all equal at the foot of the cross. But, according to bunker boy, we have to honor those who fought for inequality. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/president-trump-rails-against-removal-beautiful-confederate-statues-n793451 Right on the outside review. It should always happen. As for the issue of confederate statues, I am somewhat conflicted. I am not a big fan of erasing history and I feel it is a slippery slope. I also recognize that we don't want to glorify something as horrific as slavery. I think distinctions can be made. There are statues and monuments that were erected specifically to endorse white supremacy and the inferiority of the black race. I have no problem doing away with those because of the intent behind their construction. I am not a fan of eradicating statues/monuments/etc. of people that were created to honor their contributions to this country, simply because they also held a belief we might find reprehensible today, but was not that uncommon in their time. Lots of honest dialogue on that issue.
bilzfancy Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, Magox said: mmhmmm Yep, I'm sure if the White House just allowed people to go right up to it, that everything would be kosher. Kumbaya, you name it. Is one of the requirements of being mayor in DC is crack addict? 2
Unforgiven Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 1 hour ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said: Wow Democrats are crazy. We need the police to help us all out. We need the police to protect us from the hollywood crazies. 1
bilzfancy Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Deranged Rhino said: Then Holder can use drug cartels that he armed so well for security 1
SectionC3 Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 7 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: Right on the outside review. It should always happen. As for the issue of confederate statues, I am somewhat conflicted. I am not a big fan of erasing history and I feel it is a slippery slope. I also recognize that we don't want to glorify something as horrific as slavery. I think distinctions can be made. There are statues and monuments that were erected specifically to endorse white supremacy and the inferiority of the black race. I have no problem doing away with those because of the intent behind their construction. I am not a fan of eradicating statues/monuments/etc. of people that were created to honor their contributions to this country, simply because they also held a belief we might find reprehensible today, but was not that uncommon in their time. Lots of honest dialogue on that issue. Those are some fair points. I was a history major, and I’m very interested in American history and Civil War history. On the one hand, I agree with you. We shouldn’t destroy anything of historical value in the passions of the moment. On the other hand, I can’t say that I think it appropriate to literally elevate Robert E. Lee in Richmond. Maybe there’s a better way to do it without making the statutes shrines or gathering points. I don’t have a good explanation of what that should be - perhaps the Smithsonian? I don’t know. But I do know that the time to change the “monumental” character of those things has long since passed. 1
whatdrought Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 19 minutes ago, Magox said: mmhmmm Yep, I'm sure if the White House just allowed people to go right up to it, that everything would be kosher. Kumbaya, you name it. I guarantee this idiot has no less than 2 armed security officers around her at all time and doesn't shop for her own groceries. 2
bilzfancy Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 1 minute ago, SectionC3 said: Those are some fair points. I was a history major, and I’m very interested in American history and Civil War history. On the one hand, I agree with you. We shouldn’t destroy anything of historical value in the passions of the moment. On the other hand, I can’t say that I think it appropriate to literally elevate Robert E. Lee in Richmond. Maybe there’s a better way to do it without making the statutes shrines or gathering points. I don’t have a good explanation of what that should be - perhaps the Smithsonian? I don’t know. But I do know that the time to change the “monumental” character of those things has long since passed. If you know civil war history then you know it really wasn't fought over slavery. If we're to erase anyone who had anything to do with slavery then we'll lose George Washington, Jefferson etc. 1 1
Deranged Rhino Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 1 minute ago, bilzfancy said: If you know civil war history then you know it really wasn't fought over slavery. If we're to erase anyone who had anything to do with slavery then we'll lose George Washington, Jefferson etc. Don't bring facts and logic to a Feelz fight. 1 1
muppy Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 modern remix of an older song listen to the words they are powerful.
Chandemonium Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 3 hours ago, Buffalo_Gal said: I don't see any laughing. ?♂️ Lots of "stay home" responses. Hey, that is what we were told for the covid "crisis," same should apply here. How exactly does one “actively pass out?” 3
B-Man Posted June 4, 2020 Author Posted June 4, 2020 ANALYSIS: TRUE. Protests Expose Lockdowns And Social Distancing Shaming As A Farce. Related: ‘We’ve All Been Played:’ Bethany Mandel takes the Left and their ‘scandal of the century’ APART in just two brutal tweets. 5
bilzfancy Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 3 minutes ago, Margarita said: modern remix of an older song listen to the words they are powerful. A better one is Barry McGuire's Eve of Destruction
billsfan1959 Posted June 4, 2020 Posted June 4, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: Those are some fair points. I was a history major, and I’m very interested in American history and Civil War history. On the one hand, I agree with you. We shouldn’t destroy anything of historical value in the passions of the moment. On the other hand, I can’t say that I think it appropriate to literally elevate Robert E. Lee in Richmond. Maybe there’s a better way to do it without making the statutes shrines or gathering points. I don’t have a good explanation of what that should be - perhaps the Smithsonian? I don’t know. But I do know that the time to change the “monumental” character of those things has long since passed. It really is a tough issue. I am very interested in American history myself and I have no problems with the existence of anything that honors the memory of Robert E. Lee, as I 'm sure you don't either. It is why people choose to honor him and elevate him that is the issue. That is what the constant struggle is for. Destroying things of historical value to stop the malevolent ways in which they are used is like tearing down windmills to stop damaging winds. Edited June 4, 2020 by billsfan1959 1
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