Friday Mock Draft Day!

[GunnerBill]

I wouldn't pretend to be Bandit either but my top 3 genuine corners (and I actually think Ramsey can be a #1 corner for a team - I just think he can be an all pro at safety) are:

 

- Hargreaves

- Apple

- Alexander

 

I think Burns and Jackson are behind those 3 and I have high 2nd round grades on both of them. I see Jackson as a really instinctive player but I think he overtrusts them and I can see offensive coordinators taking advantage of that especially early in his career.

[boyst]

 

Fair enough, but I just do not think Hargreaves gets to #19. I'd be shocked actually. I see him as the number one corner in the class and as far as I can see Baltimore at #6, Philly at #8, Tampa at #9, the Giants at #10, the Bears at #11, the Saints at #12, the Dolphins at #13 are all in play for Hargreaves. If he makes it past 13 then maybe, but I'd be surprised if none of those teams took him.

 

As for Jackson - I have a high second round grade on him. He is being pushed up a lot of boards because of his measurables and combine performance but he is only the 5th best corner that I have looked at. I think he will still be there at #19, but I wouldn't pick him there.

 

There is also no way Wentz makes it to #19 for my money. Even if Cleveland passes (and I don't believe they will), him getting to #19 is a stretch.

will apple, hargreaves and jackson all be gone by 19? that would leave a lot of great options for us at 19 if it goes defense that heavy, especially because it is deep with 2nd and 3rd level talent at cb.

 

dt isn't the strongest position in this draft, imo. wr is, and than cb.

[GunnerBill]

will apple, hargreaves and jackson all be gone by 19? that would leave a lot of great options for us at 19 if it goes defense that heavy, especially because it is deep with 2nd and 3rd level talent at cb.

 

dt isn't the strongest position in this draft, imo. wr is, and than cb.

I disagree on receiver being strong. I think it is deep but not particularly strong at the top end.

 

I think whichever way one stacks the corners there will be one available at #19. I'd expect Ramsey will be gone and Hargreaves too but then I'd say one more maximum and I could actually see all the others still being there.

[boyst]

I disagree on receiver being strong. I think it is deep but not particularly strong at the top end.

 

I think whichever way one stacks the corners there will be one available at #19. I'd expect Ramsey will be gone and Hargreaves too but then I'd say one more maximum and I could actually see all the others still being there.

yes i meant deepest.

 

would you trade gilmore for ? to get one of the three @19?

[GunnerBill]

yes i meant deepest.

 

would you trade gilmore for ? to get one of the three @19?

Hard to say without knowing how the negotiations are going on an extension. I wouldn't totally dismiss it but I also am not crazy about the idea.

[thebandit27]

 

Jackson is my #1 corner.

 

I admittedly haven't done the kind of work that Bandit and others have done on this draft class........we thank them for that........but I think Jackson will be a better pro than all of the more highly rated corners. But then I really value guys who make big interceptions and can take it to the house.

 

Some years certain positions get ranked pretty early as if set in stone......and then I think sometimes the draft experts become afraid of bumping players with lesser accolades up the board..........or in the case of a guy like Nkemdiche.......bumping high pedigree disappointments way down the board where they deserve to be.

Jackson is also my #1 corner for whatever that's worth

[boyst]

I really like NCSU CB Justin Burris. What is your take on him?

Jackson is also my #1 corner for whatever that's worth

19: R1P19

ILB DARRON LEE

OHIO STATE

49: R2P18

TE HUNTER HENRY

ARKANSAS

80: R3P17

DT WILLIE HENRY

MICHIGAN

118: R4P19

CB JUSTON BURRIS

NC STATE

140: R4P41

RB TYLER ERVIN

SAN JOSE STATE

157: R5P17

OLB DADI NICOLAS

VIRGINIA TECH

193: R6P17

OT SPENCER DRANGO

BAYLOR

219: R6P43

WR ROGER LEWIS

BOWLING GREEN

 

 

Edited March 27, 2016 by Boyst62

[Kirby Jackson]

Jackson is also my #1 corner for whatever that's worth

Was with my buddy this weekend whose uncle is Kevin Colbert. Apparently the Steelers LOVE Jackson.

[thebandit27]

Was with my buddy this weekend whose uncle is Kevin Colbert. Apparently the Steelers LOVE Jackson.

 

Thanks for the head's up....can't say I'm very surprised.

 

They badly need a young CB, and Jackson has coveted speed and ball skills.

[Kirby Jackson]

 

Thanks for the head's up....can't say I'm very surprised.

 

They badly need a young CB, and Jackson has coveted speed and ball skills.

They are almost definitely going CB. If he is there it sounds like he will be the pick. They like Apple some too. They don't think that they have a shot at the others.

[thebandit27]

They are almost definitely going CB. If he is there it sounds like he will be the pick. They like Apple some too. They don't think that they have a shot at the others.

 

When I started evaluating, I didn't think we'd see more than 1 CB in the top 15...now I'm thinking all of Hargreaves, Apple, and Alexander will end up going in the top 15

[Kirby Jackson]

 

When I started evaluating, I didn't think we'd see more than 1 CB in the top 15...now I'm thinking all of Hargreaves, Apple, and Alexander will end up going in the top 15

I think Hargreaves and Alexander for sure (plus Ramsey obviously depending on how you classify him). Apple is a bit of a wild card for me. I think that he can go anywhere from about 8 to the end of round 1. Corners are so valuable in today's NFL. Look at Denver, Seattle, etc...

[ExWNYer]

Used the 'With the First Pick' board because it was the most recently updated (3/26). No way this scenario plays out but I'd do cartwheels over this draft, if it did:

 

19: R1P19

ILB REGGIE RAGLAND

ALABAMA

49: R2P18

CB MACKENSIE ALEXANDER

CLEMSON

80: R3P17

DT CHRIS JONES

MISSISSIPPI STATE

118: R4P19

LB DARRON LEE

OHIO STATE

140: R4P41

K ROBERTO AGUAYO

FLORIDA STATE

157: R5P17

WR CHARONE PEAKE

CLEMSON

193: R6P17

DE RONALD BLAIR

APPALACHIAN STATE

219: R6P43

QB KEVIN HOGAN

STANFORD

[GunnerBill]

I know it is Monday not Friday, but hey, it's a public holiday.

 

I have had a go at another one with the Matt Miller board which I think is the most similar to my own rankings of guys. Same rules - acting as if the board is "my board" only straying outside the top 3 on the board once (Redmond was 4th on the board behind 3 running backs - I think he'd be a steal in the 4th). Didn't have to avoid anyone I thought would definitely be gone, although I know views are mixed on Fackrell and some have him going much earlier - grateful if those who know more about him could enlighten me as to whether I have actually broken my rule there.

 

19: R1P19

ILB DARRON LEE

OHIO STATE

49: R2P18

WR WILL FULLER

NOTRE DAME

80: R3P17

DT WILLIE HENRY

MICHIGAN

118: R4P19

CB WILL REDMOND

MISS. STATE

140: R4P41

QB CARDALE JONES

OHIO STATE

157: R5P17

LB KYLER FACKRELL

UTAH STATE

193: R6P17

OT JOHN THEUS

GEORGIA

219: R6P43

C AUSTIN BLYTHE

IOWA

 

No defensive end fell anywhere close to me is the downside of this draft but I'd still be relatively satisfied.

[BuffaloHokie13]

Used the composite board and things fell a bit differently this go around, but I'd be pretty happy with the results!

19: R1P19

DE EMMANUEL OGBAH

OKLAHOMA STATE

Pass Rushing DE

49: R2P18

OLB SU'A CRAVENS

USC

Coverage LB/SS Hybrid

80: R3P17

WR PHAROH COOPER

SOUTH CAROLINA

A WR who can take some focus off of Sammy or punish teams that don't.

118: R4P19

DT MATT IOANNIDIS

TEMPLE

2-gap run stopping specialist to free up Dareus & Ogbah

140: R4P41

OT KYLE MURPHY

STANFORD

RT Insurance

157: R5P17

OLB DADI NICOLAS

VIRGINIA TECH

Pass Rushing OLB because I'm a homer

193: R6P17

OLB TERRANCE SMITH

FSU

Athletically gifted LB worth developing

219: R6P43

QB BRANDON DOUGHTY

WESTERN KENTUCKY

Developmental QB with a quick release and a good head on his shoulders

[Bocephuz]

Went with "With First Pick" board as it was updated 3/26. Only quirk I see on that board is Darron Lee is ranked #70 overall .. other than that the rankings seemed updated and reasonable.

This mock is what I think the Bills would be likely to do.. not necessarily what I myself would do. (I myself would rank O Line higher priority and D Line lower priority but I don't think the Bills will see things that way)

19: R1P19 - ILB-REGGIE RAGLAND - ALABAMA
- Pre-Draft visit, Preston Brown has struggled as QB of Defense and Ragland seems to be a respected tough leader who would take over that role. ( I would not be unhappy if this was the pick.. however.. if I had to choose between Ragland and Leonard Floyd I'd probably go with Floyd due to Floyd's speed and positional versatility. However.. as stated earlier this is what I "think" the Bills will do)

49: R2P18 - DT VERNON BUTLER - LOUISIANA TECH

- Another Pre Draft visit, I think Rex will fall in love with his raw athletic ability and overlook lack of technique. Adding another versatile big man to the rotation should help free up Dareus and Meatball to go hunting. (Personally I think there will be many good versatile DTs available in later rounds and spending a pick on a DT in the first 2 rounds is a mistake ... unless Buckner falls to us of course)

80: R3P17 - S DARIAN THOMPSON - BOISE STATE

- Corey Graham is getting older, Rambo is most likely not coming back, Duke Williams was a disaster...this is a position of need.. especially with al lthe responsibilities the FS has in this defense. Thompson appears to have the smarts, size and athleticism to fit Rex's scheme. You can bet that Rex will want to get Ed Reed a project to work with and Thompson could be that guy (I think this is good value in RD 3 and would not have a problem if this was the pick here)

 

118: R4P19 - DT WILLIE HENRY - MICHIGAN

- Another versatile big strong D Lineman who can play NT or on the outside as 3-4 DE. Even though they've already drafted Butler in this mock..Henry is too good of a value to pass up here. (RD 4 is where I would start looking at DTs if it was up to me.. guys like Willie Henry, DJ Reader should be still available around this stage)



140: R4P41- C NICK MARTIN - NOTRE DAME

- Probably not going to start but he has a good chance to fill the Kraig Urbik swing C, G role.



157: R5P17 - K ROBERTO AGUAYO - FLORIDA STATE

- The Bills are up against the cap and can't really afford a FA kicker. This hopefully allows them to cut Carpenter and Gay freeing up a roster spot

 

193: R6P17 - WR TAJAE SHARPE - MASSACHUSETTS
- Rob Quinn at Building The Herd has a nice profile on this guy - http://buildingtheherd.com/scout-team/nfl-draft/scouting-umass-wr-tajae-sharpe-potential-buffalo-bills-2016-nfl-draft-target/ .



219: R6P43 - QB KEVIN HOGAN - STANFORD

- position of need, went to his pro day, knowledge of Roman offense, hopefully could develop into decent backup

Edited March 28, 2016 by Bocephuz

[BADOLBILZ]

Jackson is also my #1 corner for whatever that's worth

 

 

Yeah I've seen a lot of 2nd round grades on him and I just don't see every NFL team passing on him in round 1 so what Kirby says about Pitt doesn't surprise me.

 

He's really good on the field and has all the measurables on top of it.

 

I am generally against letting good home-grown talent get away but as good as Gilmore is, I get the feeling that he wouldn't live up to a long term $12M-$16M deal.

 

Wouldn't be against taking Jackson at #19 and dealing Gilmore for value........which due to his enormous cap figure and pending FA status is probably only an early 3rd round pick.

 

Tough call but it's going to be hard to pay everyone and I am inclined to plan on franchising Tyrod next season so if they don't think Gilmore is worth $15M he may walk.

 

Get Glenn done long term......he's been more durable so I feel better about a long deal there.

 

Take the immediate $11M cap savings from Gilmore and patch the D with vets like Dansby(who would need to be signed well before the draft) and Calvin Pace and Cromartie.........and add Jahri Evans and possibly Harvin (or a Josh Gordon trade) to give the offense an immediate boost while resolving depth issues.

 

Even if they planned on keeping Gilmore, Jackson would be my pick if he's the bpa at a big $ position.

 

CB must be talent stocked in RR defense and my confidence in Gilmore making it thru a 16 game season and playoffs is not great.

[GG]

 

 

Yeah I've seen a lot of 2nd round grades on him and I just don't see every NFL team passing on him in round 1 so what Kirby says about Pitt doesn't surprise me.

 

He's really good on the field and has all the measurables on top of it.

 

I am generally against letting good home-grown talent get away but as good as Gilmore is, I get the feeling that he wouldn't live up to a long term $12M-$16M deal.

 

Wouldn't be against taking Jackson at #19 and dealing Gilmore for value........which due to his enormous cap figure and pending FA status is probably only an early 3rd round pick.

 

Tough call but it's going to be hard to pay everyone and I am inclined to plan on franchising Tyrod next season so if they don't think Gilmore is worth $15M he may walk.

 

Get Glenn done long term......he's been more durable so I feel better about a long deal there.

 

Take the immediate $11M cap savings from Gilmore and patch the D with vets like Dansby(who would need to be signed well before the draft) and Calvin Pace and Cromartie.........and add Jahri Evans and possibly Harvin (or a Josh Gordon trade) to give the offense an immediate boost while resolving depth issues.

 

Even if they planned on keeping Gilmore, Jackson would be my pick if he's the bpa at a big $ position.

 

CB must be talent stocked in RR defense and my confidence in Gilmore making it thru a 16 game season and playoffs is not great.

I guess you're ok with losing Bill as a friend?

[JoeF]

Used the new board on Fanspeak. Kevin Crabbs Draft Scout--traded down twice..ended up with this..

 

48: R2P17

DE KEVIN DODD

CLEMSON

49: R2P18

DT A'SHAWN ROBINSON

ALABAMA

76: R3P13

WR COREY COLEMAN

BAYLOR

80: R3P17

ILB REGGIE RAGLAND

ALABAMA

111: R4P12

RB DERRICK HENRY

ALABAMA

117: R4P18

DE KYLER FACKRELL

UTAH STATE

118: R4P19

OLB JAMES BURGESS

LOUISVILLE

140: R4P41

S TYVIS POWELL

OHIO STATE

157: R5P17

QB DAK PRESCOTT

MISSISSIPPI STATE

193: R6P17

OT LE'RAVEN CLARK

TEXAS TECH

219: R6P43

CB HARLAN MILLER

SE LOUISIANA STATE

Edited March 28, 2016 by JoeF

[BADOLBILZ]

I guess you're ok with losing Bill as a friend?

 

I'm hating the idea of drafting a CB as well........but the only elite PHYSICAL talent you need on a Rex D is at corner.

 

As I've noted before.......when RR D started to decline in NY it was when they started worrying about getting more gifted in the front 7 and lost focus on their boundary corners.

 

I'd much rather go offense.........QB would always be my pick if I had the choice........but I'd say the likelihood that the BPA at #19 is a defensive player is very high. Not a great offensive draft.