Refugee Crisis in the U. S. (?)

[Taro T]

9th Circuit DENIES Hawaii request for Emergency Injunction over Trump Travel Order

 

The 9th Circuit just issued an Order denying the State of Hawaiis Emergency Motion for an Injunction. For details on the motion, see our post earlier today, Hawaii seeks injunction from 9th Circuit to halt Trump application of SCOTUS Travel Ruling.

 

The Court issued its Order without even waiting for the Trump administration to respond, and was issued by the same panel of Judges as decided the original appeal, which the Supreme Court substantially overrode.

 

 

Even the 9th has thrown in the towel..................

Which is kinda cool, I guess.

 

But just curious why ~160 days into the new administration we need a 90 day temporary travel ban to review & upgrade vetting from these countries? Shouldn't the vetting be completed by now? Or was 90 days not long enough to complete the review? Or was it not started until the SCOTUS agreed to the stay to allow the ban to take place, in which case the Q is why didn't the vetting start when the initial EO was issued (regardless of whether travellers were still departing from those countries)?

Edited July 8, 2017 by Taro T

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Which is kinda cool, I guess.

 

But just curious why ~160 days into the new administration we need a 90 day temporary travel ban to review & upgrade vetting from these countries? Shouldn't the vetting be completed by now? Or was 90 days not long enough to complete the review? Or was it not started until the SCOTUS agreed to the stay to allow the ban to take place, in which case the Q is why didn't the vetting start when the initial EO was issued (regardless of whether travellers were still departing from those countries)?

At this point it's about politics as was the "resistance "

[Koko78]

At this point it's about politics as was the "resistance "

 

Which is kinda cool, I guess.

 

But just curious why ~160 days into the new administration we need a 90 day temporary travel ban to review & upgrade vetting from these countries? Shouldn't the vetting be completed by now? Or was 90 days not long enough to complete the review? Or was it not started until the SCOTUS agreed to the stay to allow the ban to take place, in which case the Q is why didn't the vetting start when the initial EO was issued (regardless of whether travellers were still departing from those countries)?

 

At this point, the case is about what the executive power actually is to issue this type of order, not the 90 day restriction itself.

[TakeYouToTasker]

 

 

At this point, the case is about what the executive power actually is to issue this type of order, not the 90 day restriction itself.

Exactly.

 

We're at a point in our history where we are long overdue for a real discussion about checks and balances, and the scope and authority of all branches at all levels of government. As Tom likes to point out, Donald Trump is shaping up to be a real catalyst for some national soul searching on the philosophy of how we govern ourselves.

 

And that's not a bad thing.

[B-Man]

[B-Man]

Maine Town Resorts To Hiring Americans As Visas Run Out

 

That really sounds like something out of The Onion, doesn’t it? I mean, a headline like that one has to be satire. And yet it’s a very real story brought to us by The Daily Caller this week. Their title, while a bit more direct, has the same impact. “Shortage Of Foreign Labor Forces Maine Businesses To Hire Local Workers.” The location is Bar Harbor, Maine, and yes, my friends… the struggle is real.

Businesses in Bar Harbor, Maine are turning to locals to make up for a shortage of foreign guest workers that normally fill summer jobs in the bustling seaside resort town.

Because the H-2B visa program has already reached its annual quota, Bar Harbor’s hotels, restaurants and shops can’t bring in any more foreign workers for the rest of the busy summer tourist season. Like hundreds of similar coastal resort towns, Bar Harbor has for many years depended on the H-2B visas for temporary workers. The program allows non-agricultural companies to bring in foreign labor if they are unable to find suitable employees domestically.

Now they are coming up with creative ways to attract local labor, reports the Bangor Daily News.

 

The use of temporary “guest worker” programs is problematic to begin with (at least for some of us) but at least on paper these jobs seem to qualify. If you look at the qualifying conditions for the program, so-called “seasonal work” is a valid reason to seek out H-2B visa holders. Still, in a capitalist society, it rings a bit of a sour note when you see a system which is actively built on using foreign workers before exhausting all possible hires of citizens.

The article describes some of the “creative ways to attract local labor” and they include things such as offering flexible hours and even… (gasp) higher wages. If your business is booming all summer to the degree that you can’t hire enough workers to meet the demand, then in a normal capitalist system the demand for labor would drive up the cost. Higher wages attract more and better workers… it’s really that simple. And if that enhanced compensation package is attracting more employees locally, why are you relying on the H-2B program to begin with?

Remember that one of the requirements for a business to qualify to use H-2B workers is as follows:

Employing H-2B workers

will not adversely affect the wages and working conditions of similarly employed U.S. workers

.

 

 

If you can make your business model work during the busiest season by offering a better compensation package but you’re bringing in foreign workers who will do the job for less, isn’t that sort of undermining the purported reason for the program’s existence?

more at the link:http://hotair.com/archives/2017/07/15/maine-town-resorts-hiring-americans-visas-run/

[boyst]

most headlines spin it as they are missing, or endangered. it seems the whole robotics schtick was a rouse to leave their **** hole country.

 

http://time.com/4867560/burundi-missing-teens-canada-don-ingabire-audrey-mwamikazi/

 

Burundi Teens Missing After Robotics Competition in D.C. Seen Crossing Into Canada

Associated Press

5:20 PM ET

(WASHINGTON) — Police have received reports that two of the Burundi teenagers missing after an international robotics competition were seen crossing the border into Canada.

A search for all the teens is ongoing, but police have no indication of foul play in their disappearance, Metropolitan Police spokeswoman Aquita Brown said.

The teens seen crossing into Canada were 16-year-old Don Ingabire and 17-year-old Audrey Mwamikazi, Brown said.

There was no official indication Thursday that any of the teens were trying to avoid returning to their homes in Africa, but a leader in the Burundian community in the U.S. suggested that they may be intending to seek asylum. Immigration attorneys said an asylum application could take years to sort out.

 

[DC Tom]

most headlines spin it as they are missing, or endangered. it seems the whole robotics schtick was a rouse to leave their **** hole country.

 

http://time.com/4867560/burundi-missing-teens-canada-don-ingabire-audrey-mwamikazi/

 

 

They have a robotics team. How big a shithole can Burundi be?

[boyst]

 

They have a robotics team. How big a shithole can Burundi be?

it's probably nothing more than a blender hooked to an ice machine with a camera on it.

 

robotics these days for these kids isn't that intense like it used to be. friend was in to it. a lot of plug and play crap now.

[DC Tom]

it's probably nothing more than a blender hooked to an ice machine with a camera on it.

 

robotics these days for these kids isn't that intense like it used to be. friend was in to it. a lot of plug and play crap now.

 

Burundi's contest entry is Tom Servo?

[boyst]

 

Burundi's contest entry is Tom Servo?

honestly, if i was a judge for such a thing i would award them first prize and add them on linkdin immediately. they're going places.

[grinreaper]

http://www.kgw.com/news/woman-65-in-ne-portland-reports-sex-assault-break-in-and-car-burglary/459231264

 

20 deportations, several arrests and the sheriff won't hold him for ICE. So he breaks into a 65 year old woman's house, beats on her, sodomizes her and steals her car. He does get caught though when he holds a knife to another woman.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

http://www.kgw.com/news/woman-65-in-ne-portland-reports-sex-assault-break-in-and-car-burglary/459231264

 

20 deportations, several arrests and the sheriff won't hold him for ICE. So he breaks into a 65 year old woman's house, beats on her, sodomizes her and steals her car. He does get caught though when he holds a knife to another woman.

 

What a guy. Hooray illegal immigration and sanctuary cities.

[DC Tom]

http://www.kgw.com/news/woman-65-in-ne-portland-reports-sex-assault-break-in-and-car-burglary/459231264

 

20 deportations, several arrests and the sheriff won't hold him for ICE. So he breaks into a 65 year old woman's house, beats on her, sodomizes her and steals her car. He does get caught though when he holds a knife to another woman.

 

"This is the Republicans' fault, for cutting funding to programs that prevent violence against women." - some progressive, somewhere.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/idiot-student-brags-online-about-illegal-status-gets-unexpected-response/

 

Deport her.

[B-Man]

TODAY’S DEMOCRATS SEE 1984 AS A HOW-TO MANUAL, NOT A CAUTIONARY TALE:

Senator Harris lying ??..............who'd a thunk it ?

[Tiberius]

Trump's immigration proposal would only allow in immigrants that already know English. That's so stupid and a bigoted law.

[boyst]

Trumps law would be the best ever becuase when im in frint of that hispanic family in line ill know what theyre saying about me

[B-Man]

Jim Acosta And Stephen Miller Go Full Metal WWE At White House Press Briefing (VIDEO)

 

Earlier today, President Trump appeared with Senators Tom Cotton and David Perdue to try to jump start their immigration bill, called the RAISE Act.

 

The impending endorsement by Trump was the main subject of the daily White House press briefing where today’s guest star was presidential adviser and alleged author of the Trump ‘travel bans,’ Stephen Miller.

I can’t do a transcript right now but these are the highlights.

The beginning.

Fact check. Statue of Liberty was dedicated in 1886. The Emma Lazarus poem was added in 1903. At that time Lazarus could not vote or hold office, so it doesn’t contain anything more than Lazarus’s opinion. The idea that poem represented American immigration policy at any point in our history is simply false.

 

The brouhaha got started when CNN reporter Jim Acosta asked presidential aide Stephen Miller whether the immigration proposal violated the principles engraved on the Statue of Liberty to “give me your tired, your poor” huddled masses seeking freedom.

When Mr. Miller said the poem was “added later” to the statue, Mr. Acosta retorted, “that sounds like some sort of National Park revisionism.”

 

 

Acosta: Hey, isn’t requiring immigrants to speak English racist or something?

MILLER: That you think only people from Great Britain or Australia would speak English is so insulting to millions of hardworking immigrants who do speak English from all over the world. Jim, have you honestly never met an immigrant from another country who speaks English outside of Great Britain and Australia? Is that your personal experience?

Acosta: But the Wall.

 

ACOSTA: Of course there are people who come in from other parts of the world.

MILLER: That’s not what you said and it shows your cosmopolitan bias.

ACOSTA: It just sounds like you’re trying to engineer the racial and ethnic flow of people into this country.

MILLER: That is one of the most outrageous, ignorant, insulting, and foolish things you’ve ever said.

 

 

I’m not a huge fan of Stephen Miller but Jim Acosta is a mouth-breathing twit who sold his soul at a Blue Light Special for this job. Like Miller or not, he’s not a guy to engage on immigration unless you’ve done some heavy duty research and know the issues. Acosta tried to paint a good first step as something nefarious and racist. He didn’t come away looking very bright.

 

Mr. Miller noted that migration levels have fluctuated historically, and he challenged the journalist to tell him “what years meet Jim Acosta’s definition” of adequate immigration numbers.

When Mr. Acosta brought up the president’s proposed border wall, Mr. Miller responded that the wall was to stop illegal immigration, not green card holders.

“Does CNN not know the difference” between green-card policy and illegal immigration? Mr. Miller asked.

 

 

Sean Spicier @sean_spicier

Hey @CNN
Jim Acosta will be late getting back to the office. He's stopping by the doctor to have Stephen Miller's foot removed from his ass

3:26 PM - Aug 2, 2017

 

 

Edited August 2, 2017 by B-Man

[B-Man]

Charles Krauthammer argued tonight that America should move to a skills-based immigration system, like that of Canada and Australia:

I love the hypocrisy of the liberals who are so shocked by this, people who swoon over Canada’s progressivism, with its national healthcare and its matinee star liberal Prime Minister, who want him to be the leader here.

All of a sudden when the U.S. proposes essentially the Canadian system, the merit-based system, are shocked at how mean and racist it is. This is a no-brainer.

Here’s the analogy: The United States is the place everybody wants to go, every immigrant. You find somebody on a raft on the South China Sea—where do they want to go? United States. We have the top 500 draft picks for the N.B.A. and instead we choose to pick people randomly out of the Karachi phonebook. This does not make sense. We should be doing what Canada and Australia are doing and cashing in on the fact that the world wants to come here.

This is so obvious, it’s almost amazing that we haven’t done this and that I think is the core of the issue.

 

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner

 

 

 

 

 

Re: Immigrant Skills vs. Numbers

FTA:

Immigrants’ lifetime fiscal impact — taxes paid minus services consumed, calculated as a “net present value” — is a great example. According to data from the National Academies of Science that Mark’s colleague Steven Camarota highlighted in February, immigrant high-school dropouts and probably high-school grads with no college are a net fiscal drain. An immigrant college grad, by contrast, is worth something like $183,000 to our government coffers.

Higher-skilled immigrants are easier to assimilate socially as well, and cause fewer problems. Immigrant college grads are more likely to speak English (very few don’t, in fact) and to value free speech. They also have fewer kids out of wedlock and commit fewer crimes. Indeed, on some of these measures they perform better than native-born Americans.

As I said in my piece yesterday, even with skilled immigrants there’s a limit to how many we can handle at once. That’s a reason, for example, I’d be skeptical of dramatically increasing overall immigration levels as the old Gang of Eight bill would have done. But reorienting the system around skills while keeping the overall numbers the same? That’s a huge victory and a result I can live with.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/450118/immigrants-are-too-low-skilled-not-too-many-number