Doc Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 A precedent so horribly bad that even the NFL competition committee wouldn't be that stupid. Not even close to "bad" much less "horribly bad." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Not even close to "bad" much less "horribly bad." Really? Changing the result of a game the next day? You seriously want to open that can of worms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Really? Changing the result of a game the next day? You seriously want to open that can of worms? If it's a mistake on the final play, I'd have no problem with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 I contemplated starting a thread about a really concerning play in the Bills game on Thursday. Did anyone notice that one play where they called for a first down measurement for the Jets and then didn't even extend the chains fully? It was completely ridiculous. I wish I could find it online. They measured for barely half a second and called it a first down when it was clearly short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 If it's a mistake on the final play, I'd have no problem with it. Just like instant replay, right? Take a quick look and overturn the obvious mistakes. What could possibly go wrong? So what happens in the 2012 Seattle-GB game? We sit around all day on Tuesday waiting to see if the NFL bows to pressure from websites and sportswriters to overturn a game based on a judgement call? Officiating will continue to get worse the longer the NFL tries to pretend there are only 22 humans on the field rather than 29. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Just like instant replay, right? Take a quick look and overturn the obvious mistakes. What could possibly go wrong? So what happens in the 2012 Seattle-GB game? We sit around all day on Tuesday waiting to see if the NFL bows to pressure from websites and sportswriters to overturn a game based on a judgement call? Officiating will continue to get worse the longer the NFL tries to pretend there are only 22 humans on the field rather than 29. The NFL issued their statement today. So obviously it wasn't a "quick look." If NFL comes to the conclusion that the final play was botched, and goes so far as to issue a statement on it, the other team should be given the win and the officiating crew penalized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) Ravens should have won game. Could affect their draft position if not Wildcard implications for Jax Ravens penalized for grabbing face mask @jeffzrebiecsun: According to NFL spokesman Michael Signora, the officials erred on that final play, which should have not happened and Ravens would have won Said Signora: "The correct call in this case would have been to penalize the offense for a false start because all 11 players were not set, and whistle to stop the play. The ensuing 10-second runoff should have ended the game." Doesn't this happen on a weekly basis now? Not the refs screwing up, that happens way more frequently. I mean them actually admitting that they hosed somebody. I think that when coaches correctly challenge a call they should be given the option to either get their timeout back or to punch all the officials in the balls. Line them up and just whale each one in the crotch. ESPN could make up a stat to track coaches ball punching efficiency, call it BPR (Ball Puncher Rating). The NFL is constantly looking to keep viewer interest, there is no way I'm changing the channel or walking away from my TV set during a review if there's a decent chance of that outcome. https://youtu.be/WQBc8yxjdSs?t=10 Or this outcome... Edited November 17, 2015 by That's No Moon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 A precedent so horribly bad that even the NFL competition committee wouldn't be that stupid. If it were the Pats that were screwed, I wouldn't put it past them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) Since the call would have ended the game, they can absolutely award the game to the Ravens. Absolutely not. For the following reason. What happens if the play happens on a 4th down late in the game where they have no timeouts left where the offense should be penalized but instead convert, then go on to win? Since the other team would have gotten the ball and would be able to do 2 or 3 kneel downs to win, they would argue they should be awarded the win. What happens if the same scenario happens during a tie game and instead of going to OT, one team wins in regulation? Do they get the two teams back together to play OT on Monday? What happens if the penalty should have been on the defense on a 4th down late in the game? Does the other team get awarded the 1st down and then they have to replay the rest of the game from that point? There are a million situations that could occur where a wrong call late in the game cost a team the game. It happens. Can't reverse it. Otherwise you open yourself up for a plethora of other situations where a team has a legitimate complaint as to how is this different from their situation. Edited November 17, 2015 by matter2003 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 (edited) Doesn't this happen on a weekly basis now? Not the refs screwing up, that happens way more frequently. I mean them actually admitting that they hosed somebody. I think that when coaches correctly challenge a call they should be given the option to either get their timeout back or to punch all the officials in the balls. Line them up and just whale each one in the crotch. ESPN could make up a stat to track coaches ball punching efficiency, call it BPR (Ball Puncher Rating). You are not living in the modern world for there are literally referees without balls. Edited November 17, 2015 by Koolaid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talley56 Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 So first the BS pass interference call against Robey on their game winning drive against us and then this. The refs cheating for the Jaguars now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 It will be news when the refs admit they should have called the Pats* for holding on one of their game winning drives in the last decade.....any of them....or probably all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 Absolutely not. For the following reason. What happens if the play happens on a 4th down late in the game where they have no timeouts left where the offense should be penalized but instead convert, then go on to win? Since the other team would have gotten the ball and would be able to do 2 or 3 kneel downs to win, they would argue they should be awarded the win. What happens if the same scenario happens during a tie game and instead of going to OT, one team wins in regulation? Do they get the two teams back together to play OT on Monday? What happens if the penalty should have been on the defense on a 4th down late in the game? Does the other team get awarded the 1st down and then they have to replay the rest of the game from that point? There are a million situations that could occur where a wrong call late in the game cost a team the game. It happens. Can't reverse it. Otherwise you open yourself up for a plethora of other situations where a team has a legitimate complaint as to how is this different from their situation. I suppose. It just drives me crazy that teams can lose games like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 If it's a mistake on the final play, I'd have no problem with it. While that seems on the surface like a fair way of doing it, I don' think it necessarily is. Why do mistakes on the final play of the game matter more than mistakes earlier? What if a ref's mistake cost the Jags points earlier? Then perhaps they wouldn't have needed to come from behind. Yet the league is going to change one play and not another? They need to limit ref's mistakes but going back in and changing the outcome of games isn't a good idea, even on the last play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 17, 2015 Share Posted November 17, 2015 You are not living in the modern world for there are literally referees without balls. Nice lips...and I bet she knows how to use them...maybe she can star in a new porno with some of th NFL players called "Locker room penalties", lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QB Bills Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Nice lips...and I bet she knows how to use them...maybe she can star in a new porno with some of th NFL players called "Locker room penalties", lolWow. Stay classy, you putz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonborn10 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 The only solution is to allow a coaches challenge for every play regardless of time, situation, or penalty. That challenge is reviewed by an independent ref or team of refs. In at least two games the outcomes have been decided by blown calls, this game and the Seahawks/Lions game. In 162 games one call likely will not change the outcome of the season. It has ruined perfect games but not standings. In the NFL that is not true. As others have said 8-8 vs 9-7 could mean everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 18, 2015 Author Share Posted November 18, 2015 @ProFootballTalk: NFL wont suspend officials for latest mistake (and they were already on Jags-Ravens, so its hard to demote them) https://t.co/kgKddrvIZ5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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