BuffaloBill Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Jerry Hughes may well be the most talented player on the defense. He also has a maddening propensity for ill-timed and stupid penalties. Should the coaching staff just let him play? Should he be benched for a game(s)? Should the team take some other sort of action with him? Is he accountable for his actions? Does his play outweigh the penalties? What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PO16FFS Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 This year he has been more invisible than ever. ( The whole D-line has been ) But boy oh boy does one half change perception. HE WAS A GAME CHANGER YESTERDAY. BUT: Penalties are part of the game and this guy takes the dumbest penalties ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 He hasn't been invisible, just not as many sacks. He has been plenty disruptive this season, but hasnt been able to get to the QB as much to put up the sack numbers. I still say he has 10 sacks by the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xsoldier54 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) Hughes changed the game yesterday, but he has got to get smarter when it comes to the penalties. How many times does he need to get flagged before he figures it out? Edited November 9, 2015 by xsoldier54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Jerry Hughes may well be the most talented player on the defense. He also has a maddening propensity for ill-timed and stupid penalties. Should the coaching staff just let him play? Should he be benched for a game(s)? Should the team take some other sort of action with him? Is he accountable for his actions? Does his play outweigh the penalties? What do you think? No, that's ridiculous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 No, that's ridiculous Nah. Bench the entire DLine until they get their sack stats up! That'll teach 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 jerry hughes isn't even in the top 3 of defensive lineman on his own team. he will get you beat with his mental lapses. he has twice as many drive extending personal fouls (6) as sacks (3). his $10.5 salary cap hit for the next three years is much too high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 jerry hughes isn't even in the top 3 of defensive lineman on his own team. he will get you beat with his mental lapses. he has twice as many drive extending personal fouls (6) as sacks (3). his $10.5 salary cap hit for the next three years is much too high. and he pretty much dominated the 2nd half and made a huge play that turned the game around........but yes, let's sit him down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Storm Front Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 I think he is having a nice season. I wish he wasn't so aggressive after the play ends sometimes. Also, there were a couple instances where he was robbed of a sack due to a penalty on a play. I think he fits in with Rex's defense, much like he did under Pettine's defense. With Hughes, you take the good with the bad. The good is really good, and the bad can be easily fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 and he pretty much dominated the 2nd half and made a huge play that turned the game around........but yes, let's sit him down and every now and then, EJ throws a perfect ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 and every now and then, EJ throws a perfect ball. Seriously, comparing Hughes to Manuel? I get it, you don't like him but that is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Talented guy with no impulse control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) Jerry Hughes may well be the most talented player on the defense. He also has a maddening propensity for ill-timed and stupid penalties. Should the coaching staff just let him play? Should he be benched for a game(s)? Should the team take some other sort of action with him? Is he accountable for his actions? Does his play outweigh the penalties? What do you think? I'll take a personal foul every game if it comes along with 2 sacks and a fumble recovery. Edited November 9, 2015 by dorquemada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 The good is really good, and the bad can be easily fixed. this is jerry's third year of playing like a dummy. if his bad can be easily fixed, he's had enough time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tu-Toned Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Hopefully he can start to contain himself on the penalties, cause the dude is an absolute force. He drew at least one holding call, and there should have been several more. We all saw the hold on the final Jags play too, the guy is unstoppable at times. How many more sacks would he have if they were not holding him all day, and that, and the refs apparently targeting him, is why he gets so frustrated. He did have that sack strip of Brady earlier as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Greg Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 jerry hughes isn't even in the top 3 of defensive lineman on his own team. he will get you beat with his mental lapses. he has twice as many drive extending personal fouls (6) as sacks (3). his $10.5 salary cap hit for the next three years is much too high. Except his mental lapses have never got us beat, but you can make a much stronger argument that his play has been the single most important factor to win a number of games. There are very few defensive lineman who have that kind of impact in the league. I think coaches need to keep working with him to clean up the penalties, but he is by far one of our best defensive players. If you don't see that, I don't think I can help you. He is as responsible as any single player for a win yesterday. Lot of fans wish he wouldn't be so good so they could be right about him being cut or benched. In the meantime, he proves you wrong again and again. My general thoughts on people who have that ax to grind are something like this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) Every good D has (or should have) that one player who is good for 1 personal foul penalty a game. The guy that plays on the edge of insanity, and sometimes crosses over it. If it werent for all the other stupid penalties, and non-penalties, that get called on us this wouldnt be such a big deal. I understand how and why it can be frustrating sometimes, but his regular play is worth it. I had a whole row of jabronies in front of me yesterday calling for him to be cut... until the 2nd half happened. Then it was immediately "I always liked that Jerry Hughes, he should be on the field every play!" He's this year's Brandon Spikes. And if he was playing in the same scheme and had the sexy sack numbers, no one would have much of a problem with it. EDIT: My ONLY problem with his play is that he didnt make his personal foul COUNT. If you are going to hit the QB 5 yards out of bounds and draw a flag, then at least take out his knee. Edited November 9, 2015 by DrDareustein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Greg Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) Every good D has (or should have) that one player who is good for 1 personal foul penalty a game. The guy that plays on the edge of insanity, and sometimes crosses over it. If it werent for all the other stupid penalties, and non-penalties, that get called on us this wouldnt be such a big deal. I understand how and why it can be frustrating sometimes, but his regular play is worth it. I had a whole row of jabronies in front of me yesterday calling for him to be cut... until the 2nd half happened. Then it was immediately "I always liked that Jerry Hughes, he should be on the field every play!" He's this year's Brandon Spikes. And if he was playing in the same scheme and had the sexy sack numbers, no one would have much of a problem with it. Good post. I think people who have played the game kind of get that. You never want to see personal fouls, but you like the edge that player brings. It's a fine line, but Hughes is clearly on the side of "hell yeah" and it's not even close. Those "fans" should lose their opinion license. They're probably the same ones who still want to see EJ start because he's such a darn nice fella. Some folks would rather cheer for lovable losers than the type of play that you need to win. Edited November 9, 2015 by DC Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Glad he's still here until he's a Free Agent in 2020 / UFA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted November 9, 2015 Share Posted November 9, 2015 Good post. I think people who have played the game kind of get that. You never want to see personal fouls, but you like the edge that player brings. It's a fine line, but Hughes is clearly on the side of "hell yeah" and it's not even close. Those "fans" should lose their opinion license. They're probably the same ones who still want to see EJ start because he's such a darn nice fella. Some folks would rather cheer for lovable losers than the type of play that you need to win. Thanks. To go one step further, I'd say the Special Teams penalties are WAY WORSE and more unforgivable. They have to stop, or Crossman has to go asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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