truth on hold Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Cleveland soap opera is silly now. The should fire pettine and make manziel head coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 That. Or maybe they just realize he is 23 and his rehab obviously failed. A regular employee at a regular job would probably have issues if this happened two months out of rehab. His personal issues are far greater than his crappy QBing. I stated that already. Was in rehab per the NFL direction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 The dude is fresh out of a preseason rehab stint. He's got a problem. He does, but benching him for falling off the wagon?? be like being suspended from work for the same thing just dumb. Now if his play suffered then you do it but he has played very well for them and this is just a dumb dumb move. I stated that already. Was in rehab per the NFL direction? No, he went to rehab on his own resolve. It is not unusual for alcoholics to fall off the wagon especially early on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 @Mr_KevinJones: Browns player to me via text: "This season has been an absolute **** show." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share Posted November 24, 2015 He does, but benching him for falling off the wagon?? be like being suspended from work for the same thing just dumb. Now if his play suffered then you do it but he has played very well for them and this is just a dumb dumb move. It's further evidence of him being out of control and the team just can't rely on him. Sitting him down is the right move for him personally and for the team IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 It's further evidence of him being out of control and the team just can't rely on him. Sitting him down is the right move for him personally and for the team IMO. Disagree. Now they are going to go into another off season knowing if he is any good or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Maybe its because he is representing the Browns whenever he is out in public and this reflects negativly on the Browns. I know some companies have the right to discipline a worker if they are acting in a way outside of work that makes the company look bad CBF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 It's further evidence of him being out of control and the team just can't rely on him. Sitting him down is the right move for him personally and for the team IMO. I disagree. now they still will not know what they have and will cut him and he will go somewhere else where he will sit on the bench and learn while getting sober with support from the team. He has shown talent and flashes being a good QB, and Cleveland stinks so bad they cant afford keep screwing up on QB picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share Posted November 24, 2015 Disagree. Now they are going to go into another off season knowing if he is any good or not. He's not any good. He's still a runaround QB with little to no pocket discipline who makes an occasional splash play outside the design of the offense. Time to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Disagree. Now they are going to go into another off season knowing if he is any good or not. Im guessing that with this move they are simply ready to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanM.D. Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Let the kid let off some steam. He is not hurting anyone. Let him do what he enjoys. What is up with this hyper-sensitivity? Imo A rookie season filled with partying followed by a stint in rehab...followed by a quasi-domestic situation involving alcohol....followed by this is more than 'letting off steam.' I'm sure I did much worse in college/early twenties (save the fighting the girlfriend) so I'm not viewing his 'weekend of partying' as anything more. However, timing is everything. The Browns just 'handed' him the rest of the season to be the starter. He responded poorly given the circumstances/considerations and expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 He's not any good. He's still a runaround QB with little to no pocket discipline who makes an occasional splash play outside the design of the offense. Time to move on. If they thought that they would not have named him the starter for the rest of the season a week or two ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share Posted November 24, 2015 (edited) If they thought that they would not have named him the starter for the rest of the season a week or two ago. Regardless of what I think about him as a player, he still cannot be relied upon as a person and he's anything but a face of the franchise type who can represent the entire organization. Edited November 24, 2015 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Regardless of what I think about him as a player, he still cannot be relied upon as a person and he's anything but a face of the franchise type who can represent the entire organization. He's Tom Hanks compared to Haslam and Farmer and how they have been running their organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truth on hold Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 They remind of a faded celebrity who can only get notoriety trying to dump up controversy. They played this manziel card too many times.... Boring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share Posted November 24, 2015 He's Tom Hanks compared to Haslam and Farmer and how they have been running their organization. Say whatever you want....He's DONE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Regardless of what I think about him as a player, he still cannot be relied upon as a person and he's anything but a face of the franchise type who can represent the entire organization. That sums it up nicely. At some point you have to move on from situations like this. And "you" in this case means the Browns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Say whatever you want....He's DONE! Oh I don't think he has much of a chance either. I just think the Browns are as hopeless and helpless and stupid as he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Regardless of what I think about him as a player, he still cannot be relied upon as a person and he's anything but a face of the franchise type who can represent the entire organization. I will take a tplayer with Manziels issues over a Hardy issue any day. And I dont see Hardy playing time deminished at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 (edited) Disagree. Now they are going to go into another off season knowing if he is any good or not.i don't think they really care anymore tbh. They are going to move on. They just don't think he takes his role seriously and they think he's an addict. It's why they have been reluctant to play him. The coach told him to chill out over the bye week and not to do anything to embarrass the team and he couldn't do it for one week. Edited November 24, 2015 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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