AJ1 Posted February 14, 2005 Share Posted February 14, 2005 I shall treat him no differently than I do any other Bill:he's got a 1 year/16 game grace period where I may question some of his individual plays, but I will not slam the individual. If he shows me at least something during that grace period, all will be fine. If he shows me nothing but bone-headed mistakes with no sign of improvement during that grace period, he will be slammed as soon as the grace period is over until he either turns things around or leaves town. Bottom line, you've got to royally suck for a long time to get on my sh--list, I'm fairly easy-going. 239137[/snapback] It's obvious to most of us that Drew's grace period expired. I guess there's a good sized minority who believe Ralph is a complete idiot. The scenario where Ralph says DB's getting no more starting money from me is too hard to believe? The Bills brass WANTS DB gone. They knew he would cut himself after being offered the second banana job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfladave Posted February 14, 2005 Share Posted February 14, 2005 If you're going to break numbers down, what are the numbers for the last 12 games of the season? Then what are those numbers if you take out his atrocious Ravens game? I bet they're nowhere near as bad; but I don't know that for a fact, so post both of those scenarios if you don't mind (and/or have time). CW 239102[/snapback] The average for the last 12 games: 178 yds/game 1.25 TDs/game 1.08 INT/game 1.58 sacks/game 75.84 QB rating The average against .500 or better clubs (we went 3-9 in those games): 189.8 yds/game 1TD/game 1.55 INT/game 2.5 sacks/game 69.7 QB rating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted February 14, 2005 Share Posted February 14, 2005 The average for the last 12 games:178 yds/game 1.25 TDs/game 1.08 INT/game 1.58 sacks/game 75.84 QB rating The average against .500 or better clubs (we went 3-9 in those games): 189.8 yds/game 1TD/game 1.55 INT/game 2.5 sacks/game 69.7 QB rating 239168[/snapback] What are "stats that suck for a supposedly Pro Bowl QB, Alex?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted February 14, 2005 Share Posted February 14, 2005 i'd much rather rip my hair out knowing JP is making rookie mistakes than rup it out over Drew making those same mistakes... 239017[/snapback] Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjeff215 Posted February 15, 2005 Share Posted February 15, 2005 You won't say one critical thing through 2006? DAMN.... 239031[/snapback] Critical is fine. Critical is healthy. There's absolutely nothing wrong with saying "Damn, he had the power in that one but didn't notice the rush... if he wouldn't have let it go, there wouldn't have been an int. Rookie mistake." There's a lot wrong with, "Bah! Gouge out his eyes and toss him to the jackals! JP=RJ!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted February 15, 2005 Share Posted February 15, 2005 you know i am in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 15, 2005 Share Posted February 15, 2005 So who would you be enamored with starting? 239225[/snapback] I don't think the QB he (or I) would be "enamored with" starting is on the roster. Personally, I'm still more comfortable with Bledsoe than Losman...but that's kind of like saying I'm more comfortable being hung upside down by my toes than being covered in honey and staked to an anthill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiderweb Posted February 15, 2005 Share Posted February 15, 2005 No we have to get to the playoffs this year. NO EXCUSES! We could get there this year if Drew comes back so we better get there with JP at the helm. 239052[/snapback] Exactly. I'll give this guy the same amount of time we give everyone else. Zero. Put up or be gone. He's inheriting a playoff caliber team. Anything less and he failed. There's a lot of pressure on this kid so we're gonna find out real quick what he's made of. I hopeful, but not optimistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted February 15, 2005 Share Posted February 15, 2005 I don't think the QB he (or I) would be "enamored with" starting is on the roster. Personally, I'm still more comfortable with Bledsoe than Losman...but that's kind of like saying I'm more comfortable being hung upside down by my toes than being covered in honey and staked to an anthill. 239228[/snapback] Bingo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted February 15, 2005 Share Posted February 15, 2005 Exactly. I'll give this guy the same amount of time we give everyone else. Zero. Put up or be gone. He's inheriting a playoff caliber team. Anything less and he failed. There's a lot of pressure on this kid so we're gonna find out real quick what he's made of. I hopeful, but not optimistic. 239267[/snapback] Bit unrealistic isn't it? A 10+ year vet got 3 years to show that he couldn't get the job done...why would you give JP anything less? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSNBDSC Posted February 15, 2005 Share Posted February 15, 2005 ... I'm in ! ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaska Darin Posted February 15, 2005 Share Posted February 15, 2005 Bit unrealistic isn't it? A 10+ year vet got 3 years to show that he couldn't get the job done...why would you give JP anything less? 239277[/snapback] There is that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAL Posted February 15, 2005 Share Posted February 15, 2005 What the hell is wrong with most of you people? We were 9 -7 last season. Why in blazes should we be satisfied with anything less? If JP doesn't give us the best chance to win next season, then keep his butt holding the clip board. Drew may have squandered the #1 special teams, and the #2 defense, but why does being a rookie make it okay for JP to do worse than that? 6 - 10 sucks. Anything less than playoffs next year sucks. Aren't you guys sick of not making the playoffs? I know I am. If JP is a step backwards at QB, then we are really wasting the defense and special teams. Who knows, by the time he does figure things out, our defense and ST might be sh--. What good is that? If Donahoe and Mularkey don't think we will be a playoff caliber team with JP at the helm next year, then he doesn't need to be starting. End of Rant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fla Bills Fan Posted February 15, 2005 Share Posted February 15, 2005 If we go 5-11 or 6-10 it will undoubtably be because Losman did not step up to the plate and collapsed under the pressure. I will not be all warm and fuzzy if this is the case. Is it that hard to ask Losman to not be a hero and take care of the ball???? That is all he has to do and it isn't asking a whole lot if you ask me. You seem to forget that we have a hellacious defense, running game and special teams. We have to make the playoffs or Losman no doubt gets tagged the goat. If he's not comfortable with this or does not want to put in the neccessary hours of practice than he should quit now. The Bills are no longer in a rebuilding phase compadre. 239042[/snapback] I agree totally with you. He should at least match Bledsoes 9-7. I think it speaks volumes that a SoCal guy showed up in Buffalo in Febuary to work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABills Posted February 15, 2005 Share Posted February 15, 2005 i'd much rather rip my hair out knowing JP is making rookie mistakes than rup it out over Drew making those same mistakes... 239017[/snapback] He isn't a rookie anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted February 15, 2005 Share Posted February 15, 2005 Hm.So, basically you think Losman is going to BUST, but Drew would only be slightly better? Thats got to be tough as a Bills fan to accept. 239323[/snapback] Yes, I do. And yes, it is. Unpleasant, to say the least...but I've survived Vince Ferragamo, Bruce Mathison, Clod Tollins, Doug Flutie, and Rob Johnson. I can survive another few years with either of these two until they get a capable QB on the roster. I don't have to like it, but I can survive it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njsue Posted February 15, 2005 Share Posted February 15, 2005 Guarantee you it wont last. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted February 15, 2005 Share Posted February 15, 2005 Bledsoe should be gone for the simple reason that the coaches needed a fuggin' ALARM CLOCK in practice. The sheer embarrassment should have inspired retirement to the woods of Montana at the very least.... The thought a supposed "HOF" QB needing an alarm clock to tell when to throw is about as absurd as it gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted February 15, 2005 Share Posted February 15, 2005 Bledsoe should be gone for the simple reason that the coaches needed a fuggin' ALARM CLOCK in practice. The sheer embarrassment should have inspired retirement to the woods of Montana at the very least.... The thought a supposed "HOF" QB needing an alarm clock to tell when to throw is about as absurd as it gets. 239368[/snapback] He'll be able to chuckle about it when he's up at the podium in Canton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted February 15, 2005 Share Posted February 15, 2005 He'll be able to chuckle about it when he's up at the podium in Canton. 239383[/snapback] Who is he going to introduce? Bill Belichek? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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