Big C Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 (edited) I honestly think the bills ceiling is 13-3 and the Super Bowl. I honestly believe that. I wanna say their floor is 8-8. But the Bills definitely have that "I'll believe it when I see it" stigma attached to them- which they should. IF Tyrod Taylor can even be Russell Wilson lite, which I think he can be, AND they stay healthy, there's absolutely no reason the Bills can't be a legitimate Super Bowl contender this season. I'm with you! Elliott Harrison is very knowledgeable, but I think he is off the mark here. Making too much out of McCoy's injury and saying the best case scenario has Sammy over 1000 yards and the #1 or #2 defense gives us 10 wins is silly. Once Tyrod tears up the first few games, it'll be pretty clear. Edited September 2, 2015 by Big C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffismagic Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 The national media is clueless about Buffalo. They thought the 9-7 record was us getting lucky. They have no idea how horrible the play calling, offensive coaching, and guard play was last year. The Bills have upgraded the offense big time. Because of injuries we could go 8-8. I see 8-8 as the floor and 12-4 as the ceiling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kipers Hair Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Upshot - 12-4...Downside 8-8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Maybe I'm just blinded by science homerism, but I see the ceiling as something like 14-2 in a miracle season, and more like 12-4 in a realistic best-case scenario. Dick Jauron's Bears went 13-3 one year, thanks largely to luck. This Bills team is better than that team IMO. And it's very feasible that Tyrod (or even EJ if Tyrod gets hurt or falters) provides better QB play than the Bears' QBs (mostly Jim Miller) did: 59.7%, 3,072 yds, 20 TDs, 16 INTs, 5.8 Y/A, 5.2 adjusted Y/A. (To be honest, I thought those numbers would be way better before I looked them up just now. 5.8 yards per attempt is terrible.) But, to be fair, probably any NFL team could go 13-3 with a historically lucky season. What about a more realistic best-case prediction, where the Bills are only medium lucky - i.e., no losses due to bad calls, no or few major injuries, etc.? I still say we could hit 12-4. That relies on Taylor stepping up and being at least league average, maybe a notch better. We can debate all day how likely that is, but in my mind, there's at least a realistic chance of it. There's also a realistic scenario where he falls flat on his face, or gets hurt then EJ falls flat on his face, so the 6-10 seems about right as the floor. I think that would also take some injuries on the defensive side, but that's not very far-fetched. The national media is clueless about Buffalo. They thought the 9-7 record was us getting lucky. They have no idea how horrible the play calling, offensive coaching, and guard play was last year. The Bills have upgraded the offense big time. Because of injuries we could go 8-8. I see 8-8 as the floor and 12-4 as the ceiling. Well, getting to play against backups in Week 17 counts as lucky... we were really 8-7 with a bye last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Well, getting to play against backups in Week 17 counts as lucky... we were really 8-7 with a bye last year. Tom Brady* was as frustrated as I have seen him for half of that 'bye' last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted September 2, 2015 Share Posted September 2, 2015 Well, getting to play against backups in Week 17 counts as lucky... we were really 8-7 with a bye last year. i love how this is the excuse on why we won last year. even with orton in we were handling that game start to finish. if ej would have won i think we'd have blown them away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Where's the 19-0 ceiling???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLFan Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Ceiling/floor for each AFC team in 2015 He has the Bills at 10-6 and 6-10. Quite a bold prediction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) Maybe I'm just blinded by science homerism, but I see the ceiling as something like 14-2 in a miracle season, and more like 12-4 in a realistic best-case scenario. Dick Jauron's Bears went 13-3 one year, thanks largely to luck. This Bills team is better than that team IMO. And it's very feasible that Tyrod (or even EJ if Tyrod gets hurt or falters) provides better QB play than the Bears' QBs (mostly Jim Miller) did: 59.7%, 3,072 yds, 20 TDs, 16 INTs, 5.8 Y/A, 5.2 adjusted Y/A. (To be honest, I thought those numbers would be way better before I looked them up just now. 5.8 yards per attempt is terrible.) But, to be fair, probably any NFL team could go 13-3 with a historically lucky season. What about a more realistic best-case prediction, where the Bills are only medium lucky - i.e., no losses due to bad calls, no or few major injuries, etc.? I still say we could hit 12-4. That relies on Taylor stepping up and being at least league average, maybe a notch better. We can debate all day how likely that is, but in my mind, there's at least a realistic chance of it. There's also a realistic scenario where he falls flat on his face, or gets hurt then EJ falls flat on his face, so the 6-10 seems about right as the floor. I think that would also take some injuries on the defensive side, but that's not very far-fetched. Well, getting to play against backups in Week 17 counts as lucky... we were really 8-7 with a bye last year. I just can't see 12-4. "It's hard to win in the NFL" haha. All kidding aside, it is hard to win in the NFL and especially when you don't have a solid, consistent QB. The best record in the NFL last season was 12-4. IMO our schedule was slightly easier than it appears to be this year though it's sometimes hard to predict how some teams will do from year to year based on injuries. I think an upside of 10-6 and a downside of 6-10 is very fare. Edited September 3, 2015 by bobobonators Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibs Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Let's see... Last year 9-7 This year...better OL, RBs, TEs, WRs....theoretically better coaches/coaching, QBs....same Defense and ST. Sure, 10-6 is obviously our ceiling this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 The ceiling is 10-6?! Ouch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 The ceiling is 10-6?! Ouch Safe to say we expect to do some remodeling. How do you feel about tray ceilings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 Safe to say we expect to do some remodeling. How do you feel about tray ceilings? Go vaulted or go home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I don't see why it's impossible to reach 11-5. Ceiling implies that everything goes well and you stay healthy. Why couldn't that be 11-5? Conversely, if everything went wrong for the Pats, they could fare worse than 9-7. This kind of stuff is just fluff to give football-starved fans something to read. It's the equivalent of a Golf Digest sitting by the toilet at a repair shop. Toilet yes but closer to stuff written on toilet wall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenigmusx Posted September 3, 2015 Share Posted September 3, 2015 I think our floor is 9-7 and our ceiling is 12-4. Suck it random NFL staffer. ^^^^^this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 I predict somewhere in the 0-16 to 16-0 range.jokes on you. 0-0-16 for the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 jokes on you. 0-0-16 for the season. first ever undefeated team to miss the playoffs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 first ever undefeated team to miss the playoffs?Why not? Aren't the bills usually good at seeing records you wish they hadn't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cash Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 I just can't see 12-4. "It's hard to win in the NFL" haha. All kidding aside, it is hard to win in the NFL and especially when you don't have a solid, consistent QB. The best record in the NFL last season was 12-4. IMO our schedule was slightly easier than it appears to be this year though it's sometimes hard to predict how some teams will do from year to year based on injuries. I think an upside of 10-6 and a downside of 6-10 is very fare. Yeah, but the best case scenario is that Taylor plays almost as well in the regular season as he did in the preseason. That *would* give us a solid, consistent QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted September 4, 2015 Share Posted September 4, 2015 cieling 12-4 floor 8-8 likely 11-5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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