Deranged Rhino Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 i feel like thats stretching it. no one is worried about miles on him week 1 of this year but here or with the eagles a 5 year deal is a big commitment to a guy with a lot of carries. thats not to say hes over the hill, but even you must admit hes had a ton of touches. Oh, I fully admit he has a lot of carries. What I was trying to say was no one was concerned about that number, especially in Philly, until the trade. It was never an issue because of the way he ran and his lack of injuries in the NFL. But as soon as he got dealt to Buffalo, that narrative changed to McCoy not only having a lot of miles -- but being on the decline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhitewalkerInPhilly Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 Oh, I fully admit he has a lot of carries. What I was trying to say was no one was concerned about that number, especially in Philly, until the trade. It was never an issue because of the way he ran and his lack of injuries in the NFL. But as soon as he got dealt to Buffalo, that narrative changed to McCoy not only having a lot of miles -- but being on the decline. I would also like to point out that McCoy's "decline" year was for 1300 yards. He'd had a record year the year before but I wish all of our RBs "declined" like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Jerky Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 i feel like thats stretching it. no one is worried about miles on him week 1 of this year but here or with the eagles a 5 year deal is a big commitment to a guy with a lot of carries. thats not to say hes over the hill, but even you must admit hes had a ton of touches. Isn't it only three years worth of guaranteed money? Which is all that matters anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Hoping to be able to draft both of them in fantasy football. Probably won't get to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 15, 2015 Author Share Posted July 15, 2015 Hoping to be able to draft both of them in fantasy football. Probably won't get to. i might go McCoy if I draft late in the first. At some point all the bellcow RBs are gone and its RBBC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 Isn't it only three years worth of guaranteed money? Which is all that matters anymore. Dead money does too, if you want to actually eat over 5m in dead money you can cut him year 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 i might go McCoy if I draft late in the first. At some point all the bellcow RBs are gone and its RBBC. I really like McCoy from a fantasy perspective esp if you are PPR. For one the Bills defense is going to be good enough where they will be in close games thus they will most likely be running the ball throughout the game. Bills O-line is a concern but I think Kujo and InCog will be useful additions along with an improvement in coaching and scheme. The Bills also will likely have a conservative passing game and will be dumping it down to McCoy a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJasper Probincrux III Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 I would also like to point out that McCoy's "decline" year was for 1300 yards. He'd had a record year the year before but I wish all of our RBs "declined" like that. I'd also like to point out that the Eagles offensive line was decimated by injuries and suspensions. The narrative in Philly is that McCoy didn't fit Chip's system and danced too much...but nobody had that issue the year before when he had half a line...in Chip's system. The way Eagle fans have thrown him aside and speak about him as though he were a bum is disgraceful. He didn't ask to be traded, in fact he was pissed when he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 I'd also like to point out that the Eagles offensive line was decimated by injuries and suspensions. The narrative in Philly is that McCoy didn't fit Chip's system and danced too much...but nobody had that issue the year before when he had half a line...in Chip's system. The way Eagle fans have thrown him aside and speak about him as though he were a bum is disgraceful. He didn't ask to be traded, in fact he was pissed when he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Kiko plus Murray is greater than Shady. The eagles improved their team. So did the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Kiko plus Murray is greater than Shady. The eagles improved their team. So did the Bills. Maybe. But Murray was never in the equation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDS73 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 (edited) Well, McCoy avoids contact like the plague, so I guess he does have that going for him. His body isn't as beaten up as Murray's. But McCoy relies on speed and elusiveness to get his yards. When guys like that start to lose a step, the fall is usually hard and fast. Guess it all depends on what kind of offense you want to run. If it's a ground and pound style offense, Murray is my choice every time. But if it's more a west coast offense where the RB will be catching the ball a lot too, I'd go with McCoy easily. He's deadly in open space and makes guys miss. Kiko plus Murray is greater than Shady. The eagles improved their team. So did the Bills. They were also able to sign Ryan Mathews because of the McCoy trade. They now have a young stud linebacker and the scariest rb corp in the league because of that trade. Not bad at all. Edited July 16, 2015 by KDS73 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJasper Probincrux III Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Well, McCoy avoids contact like the plague, so I guess he does have that going for him. His body isn't as beaten up as Murray's. But McCoy relies on speed and elusiveness to get his yards. When guys like that start to lose a step, the fall is usually hard and fast. Guess it all depends on what kind of offense you want to run. If it's a ground and pound style offense, Murray is my choice every time. But if it's more a west coast offense where the RB will be catching the ball a lot too, I'd go with McCoy easily. He's deadly in open space and makes guys miss. They were also able to sign Ryan Mathews because of the McCoy trade. They now have a young stud linebacker and the scariest rb corp in the league because of that trade. Not bad at all. None of us have seen Kiko play since his second ACL injury to the same knee. Is he 100%? Will he be able to get back to the same level? Assuming he comes back at 100% is hopeful at a minimum. Ryan Matthews hasn't been able to stay healthy for his whole career so assuming that he will be healthy this year is again, hopeful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 bull ****. The only team that fears Romo is rhe Cowboys. Great comment. The fans in TX that I know also fear Romo and would be happy to move him to which I have only ever replied with our starter for your straight up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 16, 2015 Author Share Posted July 16, 2015 Great comment. The fans in TX that I know also fear Romo and would be happy to move him to which I have only ever replied with our starter for your straight up. there are only a handful of teams whose fans are actually happy with their QB. Andy Dalton played in the celebrity softball game in Cincy before the all-star game and was mercilessly booed. Broncos fans can't wait for manning to retire. Charges fans think Rivers is done. I don't know how it feels to hate my playoff franchise QB. I want to hate my franchise Playoff QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Kiko plus Murray is greater than Shady. The eagles improved their team. So did the Bills. Kiko is a joke. So overrated it's not funny. Damaged goods and way over-hyped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 there are only a handful of teams whose fans are actually happy with their QB. Andy Dalton played in the celebrity softball game in Cincy before the all-star game and was mercilessly booed. Broncos fans can't wait for manning to retire. Charges fans think Rivers is done. I don't know how it feels to hate my playoff franchise QB. I want to hate my franchise Playoff QB. LOL I want to hate my franchise Playoff QB also. In fact some of us already do! But I still have hope in EJ. Or Tyrod. Or Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Kiko is a joke. So overrated it's not funny. Damaged goods and way over-hyped. Funny how no one in Buffalo thought so until he got traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDS73 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 None of us have seen Kiko play since his second ACL injury to the same knee. Is he 100%? Will he be able to get back to the same level? Assuming he comes back at 100% is hopeful at a minimum. Ryan Matthews hasn't been able to stay healthy for his whole career so assuming that he will be healthy this year is again, hopeful. Yeah, I think Chip Kelly has a lot of faith in his sports science program to get guys healthy. Which, I have to admit, seems to be working for the most part. Worked wonders for Jeremy Maclin last year anyway. He was coming off his second ACL tear in the same knee and had a great year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Funny how no one in Buffalo thought so until he got traded. I think plenty of people thought that prior to his trade. Based on overall performance and games missed due to injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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