NoSaint Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 (edited) has anyone brought up the field conditions during games? sometimes in the playoffs where they leave the field uncovered in heavy rains days prior to the game to have a sloppy field that may not be advantageous to teams acclimated to mostly synthetic turf fields? Aurea Sillery on Twitter: "Patriots leave field uncovered in ... Dec 1, 2010 - Patriots leave field uncovered in snow and rain storm hoping to gain advantage against Colts After a Long Rain Delay, Tarp Finds Patriots' ... Jan 13, 2005 · The New England Patriots left the Gillette Stadium field uncovered during a light rain Wednesday into Thursday morning. Then Bellyache has the nerve to complain when some one else does it!!! Belichick blames Welker injury on Reliant Stadium turf :blush: :blush: and a mixture of on and off the field activities http://www.bdcwire.com/beyond-deflategate-ranking-the-patriots-top-10-scandals/ I'm sure you advocate for a dome so as to keep the field fair and even for both teams and hate that the Ralph is subject to weather. As to the injury - it's a kind of turf that has a reputation for acl injuries. I think it's fair to acknowledge it. Everyone on this board, you included, would celebrate home field advantage on a snow covered field and complain about a potentially unsafe brand of turf causing injury. Stick to the real issues Edited May 16, 2015 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimdaigler Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 For those who think, as Lombardi once said himself, "winning isn't everything, it's the only thing", there are plenty of "people" out there who would take your favorite sport and destroy it. You think there's no line that can't be crossed if mafia and/or gamblers are involved? Like throwing the world series? Would you play to win if someone could threaten your family or friends? Is it okay to poison another team's water? Wear brass knuckles under a bandage? "People" can get very very creative when "winning is the only thing". And then "sport" doesn't exist at all anymore. Use your head. There's a reason why sports have rules and it's not so you can see who's clever enough to break them and win and get away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingRex Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 A few years back, in a snowy game, one team had the grounds crew drive a plow along the yardline where they were kicking an FG. There was no rule against this obvious competitive advantage and my recollection is the kick was good and THEN the rule was changed. I think Miami and Shula were the victims. Does anyone remember who the rule bender was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 A few years back, in a snowy game, one team had the grounds crew drive a plow along the yardline where they were kicking an FG. There was no rule against this obvious competitive advantage and my recollection is the kick was good and THEN the rule was changed. I think Miami and Shula were the victims. Does anyone remember who the rule bender was? That was decades ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 That was decades ago. Proof of a track record! It's been going on since 1982! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Direhard Fan Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Kraft and company are showing more and more they have no class. The owners meeting next week should be interesting. They should all turn there backs on him. He should be ashamed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 (edited) Kraft and company are showing more and more they have no class. The owners meeting next week should be interesting. They should all turn there backs on him. He should be ashamed. Whoever it was who was responsible for the spin/lie about calling the guy "the Deflator" because he was trying to lose weight should be fired posthaste and shame on Kraft & Co. for such an obvious load of crap. Makes you really wonder about ANYTHING else that comes out of his mouth. Edited May 16, 2015 by MattM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOKIE Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 I'm often impressed with this site, and the people on it. Above, someone asks an honest question about what a Mike linebacker is. Three minutes later, without any snark, a guy named Mike provides an educational link. Bravo TBD! Lol. I was as surprised as anyone! Oh I wanted to make a snarky remark about my name lol but honest question gets an honest answer Ok. I guess I already knew that - Mike = middle linebacker. I guess a better question is: why does the QB need to identify the Mike? The middle linebacker is the linebacker in the middle, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt in KC Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 A few years back, in a snowy game, one team had the grounds crew drive a plow along the yardline where they were kicking an FG. There was no rule against this obvious competitive advantage and my recollection is the kick was good and THEN the rule was changed. I think Miami and Shula were the victims. Does anyone remember who the rule bender was? http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/09000d5d82651450/Vault-Keeper-The-Snowplow-game Pats* beating the Dolphins 1982 They gave the snow plow driver a game ball! 5 Other Times The Patriots Cheated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Lol. I was as surprised as anyone! Ok. I guess I already knew that - Mike = middle linebacker. I guess a better question is: why does the QB need to identify the Mike? The middle linebacker is the linebacker in the middle, no? doesnt he call the play? so people on the O want to hear the call? I dont know much about futbals just a haphazard guess http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/09000d5d82651450/Vault-Keeper-The-Snowplow-game Pats* beating the Dolphins 1982 They gave the snow plow driver a game ball! 5 Other Times The Patriots Cheated seems reasonable enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 (edited) I'm sure you advocate for a dome so as to keep the field fair and even for both teams and hate that the Ralph is subject to weather. As to the injury - it's a kind of turf that has a reputation for acl injuries. I think it's fair to acknowledge it. Everyone on this board, you included, would celebrate home field advantage on a snow covered field and complain about a potentially unsafe brand of turf causing injury. Stick to the real issues Stick to the real issues? to me - not caring for your field properly is a real issue to me. Do the Bills control the weather? Make it snow and blow 0 to -15 deg wind chills? Did I fabricate this issue of shoddy field conditions? No, I relayed media reports of other nefarious activities. the last bit was some fun added in .. If that is what prompted "Stick to the real issues" comment then may I suggest you learn to lighten up and laugh a little. A few years back, in a snowy game, one team had the grounds crew drive a plow along the yardline where they were kicking an FG. There was no rule against this obvious competitive advantage and my recollection is the kick was good and THEN the rule was changed. I think Miami and Shula were the victims. Does anyone remember who the rule bender was? Capt Obvious says The Cheatriots of course!!! Edited May 17, 2015 by BillsFan-4-Ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted May 16, 2015 Share Posted May 16, 2015 Patriots have been accused of tampering with communications before in addition to the Cardinals, add the jaguars, lions and bengals http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/15/patriots-have-been-accused-of-tampering-with-communications-before/ And the Colts. All this and more is covered in the book, SpyGate. Y'all really need to read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 And the Colts. All this and more is covered in the book, SpyGate. Y'all really need to read it. There's way too much smoke with the headset thing for the league to have ignored it for so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 Lol. I was as surprised as anyone! Ok. I guess I already knew that - Mike = middle linebacker. I guess a better question is: why does the QB need to identify the Mike? The middle linebacker is the linebacker in the middle, no? I posted a link talking about what a mike lb does and someone else commented on how it was nice to not have a snarky remark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted May 17, 2015 Share Posted May 17, 2015 A few years back, in a snowy game, one team had the grounds crew drive a plow along the yardline where they were kicking an FG. There was no rule against this obvious competitive advantage and my recollection is the kick was good and THEN the rule was changed. I think Miami and Shula were the victims. Does anyone remember who the rule bender was? It was none other than the New England Patriots**. But since Shula was the victim, and it wasn't against the rules, we were all for it. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 Proof of a track record! It's been going on since 1982! Since the early 1960's. You have the same owner, Krafty, that was bragging in Forbes how he would steal (theft of service) from the original owners by sneaking people in on season passes. His reasoning: "The team was terrible and losing, so it was okay." What do you think his reasoning is today for win @ all cost. Here is an owner that is ON RECORD for saying that... You think he allows that theft of service with his club today? He financed that stadium all on his own if you remember. Somebody has to pay the mortgage and 6 people in on 4 seasons won't cut it... Even if they are winning and the stands are full. Just because there are open seats, he can rip somebody off? THIS has always said everything about what kind of man Krafty is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 Get wise people: "The Patriots use their winning brand to generate revenue beyond the NFL. Adjacent to Gillette Stadium, the Kraft family owns Patriot Place, which features more than 1.3 million square feet of shopping, dining and entertainment. Patriot Pace features retailers like Old Navy, Victorias Secret and the regions only Bass Pro Shops, as well as restaurants such as CBS Scene, Davios, Toby Keiths I Love This Bar & Grill and Olive Garden." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 Get wise people: "The Patriots use their winning brand to generate revenue beyond the NFL. Adjacent to Gillette Stadium, the Kraft family owns Patriot Place, which features more than 1.3 million square feet of shopping, dining and entertainment. Patriot Pace features retailers like Old Navy, Victorias Secret and the regions only Bass Pro Shops, as well as restaurants such as CBS Scene, Davios, Toby Keiths I Love This Bar & Grill and Olive Garden." so do places like Dulles Town Center (coincidentally near Redskins park) the Apple Valley Mall in Winchester, VA. features retailers like Old Navy, Victorias Secret and Bass Pro Shops, Dicks, Movie Theaters etc etc or were you being sarc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
symbiant Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 Pats stealing signals? Ever wonder why the Patriots always seem to sign our scrub castoff WR's..... And then cut them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledInIllinois Posted May 18, 2015 Share Posted May 18, 2015 so do places like Dulles Town Center (coincidentally near Redskins park) the Apple Valley Mall in Winchester, VA. features retailers like Old Navy, Victorias Secret and Bass Pro Shops, Dicks, Movie Theaters etc etc or were you being sarc? No sarcasm... Just pointing out the motivation to win in a very fickle fan base like New England... They are more fair weather than that racist team from DC. Yankee frugality? They won't show without a winner... How do think Krafty snuck 6 in back @ Harvard Stadium in the 1960's. Red Sox are the New England outlier... Loveable losers all those years and only a 40k stadium with a team that was even more regionalized/nationalized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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