Garranimal Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 There is a big difference between gaining any advantage you can within the letter of the rule versus the spirit of the rule. Should the refs throw a pink flag for "spirit of the rules" violations? Spirit of the rule is opinion, letter of the rule is fact...which is why it is written, reviewed and approved. If the rule needs further clarification, it will be rewritten as it has been. But you can't penalize for "you know what I meant to say". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 His foot was clearly behind that solid white line and the location of the ball when caught was at or slightly forward of the white line. blind ref Why on earth would you post this? Sweet Jesus!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garranimal Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 I am not arguing the ineligible / eligible play. I am calling out the next play in the series where the ineligible / eligible should have left the field and did not. And the refs had any/every opportunity to penalize the Pats on that play. That they did not is on the refs, not the Pats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBytheBay Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) Changing the rule kinda shows how the NFL felt about the play. But God forbid they openly say that was a crap play. I know it was "legal" but that was not in the spirit of the game. Should the refs throw a pink flag for "spirit of the rules" violations? Spirit of the rule is opinion, letter of the rule is fact...which is why it is written, reviewed and approved. If the rule needs further clarification, it will be rewritten as it has been. But you can't penalize for "you know what I meant to say".this drival is why rules and laws are so convoluted to the point that no one under stands them. People like you don't care about the intent, just the loop hole that gets you what you want. Don't get me wrong, during the game you can't flag it. Doesn't change the fact that the Pats* still will do anything THEY don't think is cheating. Edited March 30, 2015 by JaxBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Should the refs throw a pink flag for "spirit of the rules" violations? Spirit of the rule is opinion, letter of the rule is fact...which is why it is written, reviewed and approved. If the rule needs further clarification, it will be rewritten as it has been. But you can't penalize for "you know what I meant to say". Spirit of the rule is not always opinion. A lot of times every single person knows why the rule was put there. Bellichick knows why the rule was put there, and he intentionally abused one rule to abuse another. I understand your argument, and you're right, they cannot throw the flag on it. But there are two ways to look at it, and one of them is that he was cheating because he intentionally abused the rule, not to gain a fair advantage but to gain an unfair advantage, which is why they immediately came in and said you can't do that anymore, saving the spirit of the rule from later abuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) And the refs had any/every opportunity to penalize the Pats on that play. That they did not is on the refs, not the Pats. because the Ref;s didn't even know WTF was happening. Keep defending the rule bender. See Bilicheat and goal line camera thread. Such an easy fix, but is it because Belicheat suggested it that there is opposition? Tom Brady on the Ravens' complaints: Learn the rules http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/patriots_nfl/the_blitz/2015/01/tom_brady_on_the_ravens_complaints_learn_the_rules "Maybe those guys have got to study the rule book and figure it out," Brady said. "We obviously knew what we were doing and we made some pretty important plays. It was a real good weapon for us. Maybe we’ll have something in store next week." Spirit of the rule is not always opinion. A lot of times every single person knows why the rule was put there. Bellichick knows why the rule was put there, and he intentionally abused one rule to abuse another. I understand your argument, and you're right, they cannot throw the flag on it. But there are two ways to look at it, and one of them is that he was cheating because he intentionally abused the rule, not to gain a fair advantage but to gain an unfair advantage, which is why they immediately came in and said you can't do that anymore, saving the spirit of the rule from later abuse. bingo Edited March 30, 2015 by BillsFan-4-Ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 The Pats fans here are still beating the "It's not cheating because the Patriots are a better team" drum? Your team cheats. Live with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Here's what we know as a fact: The Patriots are once again, the champions. Thank you for your thoughts. Have a nice drive home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Here's what we know as a fact: The Patriots are once again, the champions. Thank you for your thoughts. Have a nice drive home. We also know they used illegal formations, played with non-regulation equipment, and videotaped opponents defensive signals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan-4-Ever Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) Here's what we know as a fact: The Patriots* are once again, the chumpions. Thank you for your thoughts. Have a nice drive home. fixed it for you, Edited March 30, 2015 by BillsFan-4-Ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsBytheBay Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 Here's what we know as a fact: The Patriots are once again, the champions. Thank you for your thoughts. Have a nice drive home. because that changes all the other facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted March 30, 2015 Share Posted March 30, 2015 (edited) We also know they used illegal formations, played with non-regulation equipment, and videotaped opponents defensive signals. Nice to see you, Tom. Sharing in this celebration of the New England Patriots 2014 Championship Season with you has been a pleasure. (That's really what all this amounts to. The "haterz" make it sweeter for the winners. I'm not gonna hate, I'm gonna move on.) Let's hope we can celebrate a Buffalo Bills of New York championship at the end of the 2015 NFL Season. (It's time to move forward) Have a nice drive home. Edited March 30, 2015 by HoF Watkins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pneumonic Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 (edited) Why did the league change the rule? Fear .... in the form of Belichick Derangement Syndrome (BDS) http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2410842-fearing-bill-belichick-only-makes-him-stronger Edited March 31, 2015 by Pneumonic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim in Anchorage Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 We also know they used illegal formations, played with non-regulation equipment, and videotaped opponents defensive signals.I think you're up to 10 Pats posts a day. But you're the rational one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 31, 2015 Share Posted March 31, 2015 Why did the league change the rule? Fear .... in the form of Belichick Derangement Syndrome (BDS) http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2410842-fearing-bill-belichick-only-makes-him-stronger LOL! Yeah, that's it. Just like pointing out their cheating is only jealousy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 LOL! Yeah, that's it. Just like pointing out their cheating is only jealousy. Like when Roger Goodell got so jealous that he fined Belichek $500,000 and took away a first round draft pick from the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Like when Roger Goodell got so jealous that he fined Belichek $500,000 and took away a first round draft pick from the team. Funny that no one is jealous of the Giants or Steelers, who have won two Super Bowls apiece since 2007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Like when Roger Goodell got so jealous that he fined Belichek $500,000 and took away a first round draft pick from the team. Except that Goodell is such a !@#$ing knucklehead that fining a team out of jealousy sounds like something he'd do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 Funny that no one is jealous of the Giants or Steelers, who have won two Super Bowls apiece since 2007. If NE was in the NFC, there would be zero posts about them here. You know this as well, doc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC Tom Posted April 1, 2015 Share Posted April 1, 2015 If NE was in the NFC, there would be zero posts about them here. You know this as well, doc. Yeah, because people only talk about teams in their own conference. I'm sure if Brady played in the NFC West, we'd never have even heard about his cheating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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