1B4IDie Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Terry Pegula's ownership did not help the Sabres on ice product. Why do people keep posting like he is going to do something to fix the Bills on field product? He is a hands off kinda guy. He is a business man that is going to help develop the City of Buffalo around the Bills. He is not a football guy. He is not a hatchet man. Get used to seeing Russ Brandon and Doug Whaley for a long time. Terry is a savior to keep the team on Buffalo. There is no reason to believe Terry and Kim Pegula are 1.) Going to make massive changes to the Bills Front Office 2.) Would even know what to do in order to improve the Bills on the field performance. If we wanted to Frack Orchard Park, Terry is your man. If you want a winning football team well you better hope Terry and Kim 1.) Actually care about winning (Sabres point to no) 2.) Are interested in finding a "football guy" that can help them (all signs point to status quo.) Terry Pegula is not some kind of Jerry Jones with more football acumen. You likely won't be hearing much or seeing the Pegulas do much in the football operations. Sorry to burst your bubble but atleast the Bills are in Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills_fan_in_raleigh Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Folks the Sabres were a mess created by Darcy. One mistake Terry made is he trusted darcy. Once he realized it was a mistake he jettisoned him and brought in change. Now the sabres have a plan to rebuild the organization and a lot of that starts with farm teams as well as the big team. Hockey teams are not turned around in one draft it takes about 3 years to build it right. Hopefully Terry learned from Sabres woes tp make sure he has GM with a plan in place. Time will tell I am hopeful but concerned as well since the current GM made some of the choices we don't like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
87168 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Terry Pegula's ownership did not help the Sabres on ice product. Why do people keep posting like he is going to do something to fix the Bills on field product? He is a hands off kinda guy. He is a business man that is going to help develop the City of Buffalo around the Bills. He is not a football guy. He is not a hatchet man. Get used to seeing Russ Brandon and Doug Whaley for a long time. Terry is a savior to keep the team on Buffalo. There is no reason to believe Terry and Kim Pegula are 1.) Going to make massive changes to the Bills Front Office 2.) Would even know what to do in order to improve the Bills on the field performance. If we wanted to Frack Orchard Park, Terry is your man. If you want a winning football team well you better hope Terry and Kim 1.) Actually care about winning (Sabres point to no) 2.) Are interested in finding a "football guy" that can help them (all signs point to status quo.) Terry Pegula is not some kind of Jerry Jones with more football acumen. You likely won't be hearing much or seeing the Pegulas do much in the football operations. Sorry to burst your bubble but atleast the Bills are in Buffalo. once again, Terry took over the Sabres in 2009/2010 season. The NHL and NFL are quite different in terms of rebuilding. Anyone expecting a playoff hockey team in this short amount of time, after Terry's purchase may have blinders on. The Sabres have done a lot to but the RIGHT people in the FO to turn this franchise around. NFL, well a team can vastly improve decent QB, or a competent coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Terry Pegula's ownership did not help the Sabres on ice product. Why do people keep posting like he is going to do something to fix the Bills on field product? He is a hands off kinda guy. He is a business man that is going to help develop the City of Buffalo around the Bills. He is not a football guy. He is not a hatchet man. Get used to seeing Russ Brandon and Doug Whaley for a long time. Terry is a savior to keep the team on Buffalo. There is no reason to believe Terry and Kim Pegula are 1.) Going to make massive changes to the Bills Front Office 2.) Would even know what to do in order to improve the Bills on the field performance. If we wanted to Frack Orchard Park, Terry is your man. If you want a winning football team well you better hope Terry and Kim 1.) Actually care about winning (Sabres point to no) 2.) Are interested in finding a "football guy" that can help them (all signs point to status quo.) Terry Pegula is not some kind of Jerry Jones with more football acumen. You likely won't be hearing much or seeing the Pegulas do much in the football operations. Sorry to burst your bubble but atleast the Bills are in Buffalo. You do realize the Sabres are purposely tanking, They have the number 1 talent pool and have a pretty good chance of getting the #1 pick. Which means Connor McDavid. This has been planned. I can't believe there are people that don't know this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 His wife is the one to profile, she'll be running things at OBD. This thread is largely irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted William's frozen head Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Why do people keep posting like he is going to do something to fix the Bills on field product? He is a hands off kinda guy. He is not a football guy. He is not a hatchet man. The axe is being finely honed as we speak........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Why do people keep posting like he is going to do something to fix the Bills on field product? He is a hands off kinda guy. He is not a football guy. He is not a hatchet man. The axe is being finely honed as we speak........ what does "he is not is not a football guy" mean? Is it because he bought the Sabres first you think he does not love football? I dont know, it amazed me how so many people KNOW what he is going to do....when is the last time someone on this board had a one on one with Terry or Kim...when is the last time the media for that matter ever got anything out of Terry ??? Just stop with these threads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubs Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Terry Pegula's ownership did not help the Sabres on ice product. Why do people keep posting like he is going to do something to fix the Bills on field product? He is a hands off kinda guy. He is a business man that is going to help develop the City of Buffalo around the Bills. He is not a football guy. He is not a hatchet man. Get used to seeing Russ Brandon and Doug Whaley for a long time. Terry is a savior to keep the team on Buffalo. There is no reason to believe Terry and Kim Pegula are 1.) Going to make massive changes to the Bills Front Office 2.) Would even know what to do in order to improve the Bills on the field performance. If we wanted to Frack Orchard Park, Terry is your man. If you want a winning football team well you better hope Terry and Kim 1.) Actually care about winning (Sabres point to no) 2.) Are interested in finding a "football guy" that can help them (all signs point to status quo.) Terry Pegula is not some kind of Jerry Jones with more football acumen. You likely won't be hearing much or seeing the Pegulas do much in the football operations. Sorry to burst your bubble but atleast the Bills are in Buffalo. You're right!! The Bills are only 2 - 3 since the Pegulas owned the Bills! We're doomed! Another 30 years of mediocrity! You burst my bubble! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted November 16, 2014 Author Share Posted November 16, 2014 (edited) You do realize the Sabres are purposely tanking, They have the number 1 talent pool and have a pretty good chance of getting the #1 pick. Which means Connor McDavid. This has been planned. I can't believe there are people that don't know this. You don't understand how the NHL lottery draft works. Having the worst record doesn't give you the highest percentage chance at the #1 overall pick. His wife is the one to profile, she'll be running things at OBD. This thread is largely irrelevant. Kim has just as much Football experience as Terry. What do you imagine, Kim on the sidelines telling Marrone to put EJ in the game? what does "he is not is not a football guy" mean? Is it because he bought the Sabres first you think he does not love football? I dont know, it amazed me how so many people KNOW what he is going to do....when is the last time someone on this board had a one on one with Terry or Kim...when is the last time the media for that matter ever got anything out of Terry ??? Just stop with these threads He has never held a position in an NFL front office or been involved in an NFL team in any capacity. That is what that means. You're right!! The Bills are only 2 - 3 since the Pegulas owned the Bills! We're doomed! Another 30 years of mediocrity! You burst my bubble! There are a number of posters where the conversation goes like this. logical poster: "The offense is horrible." illogical poster: "Terry Pegula will sprinkle Pegula dust on the offense and everything will work, just watch." There is no such thing as Pegula dust. The team needs a solid plan to get better on the field. I don't see one, I don't believe in Pegula dust. I may believe the plan when I see it. Edited November 16, 2014 by Why So Serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark80 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 You don't understand how the NHL lottery draft works. Having the worst record doesn't give you the highest percentage chance at the #1 overall pick. Kim has just as much Football experience as Terry. What do you imagine, Kim on the sidelines telling Marrone to put EJ in the game? He has never held a position in an NFL front office or been involved in an NFL team in any capacity. That is what that means. There are a number of posters where the conversation goes like this. logical poster: "The offense is horrible." illogical poster: "Terry Pegula will sprinkle Pegula dust on the offense and everything will work, just watch." There is no such thing as Pegula dust. The team needs a solid plan to get better on the field. I don't see one, I don't believe in Pegula dust. I may believe the plan when I see it. This is completely and utterly false. While it doesn't guarantee the first overall pick, it certainly does give you the highest percentage chance at the first overall pick. That is, unless the NHL doesn't even know your little secret. http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=728795 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted William's frozen head Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 what does "he is not is not a football guy" mean? Is it because he bought the Sabres first you think he does not love football? I dont know, it amazed me how so many people KNOW what he is going to do....when is the last time someone on this board had a one on one with Terry or Kim...when is the last time the media for that matter ever got anything out of Terry ??? Just stop with these threads The axe is being finely honed as we speak........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Anyone that follows the NHL is acutely aware that the Sabres have one of the top 3 most talented systems in the game. They have a respected GM in Tim Murray. They have 3 first round picks in a loaded draft; one of which will very likely guarantee them a generational talent in McDavid or Eichel. You also are 100% wrong about the lottery odds--worst team has a 30% chance or so, highest of any team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Cubed Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 You don't understand how the NHL lottery draft works. Having the worst record doesn't give you the highest percentage chance at the #1 overall pick. I know exactly how the NHL draft lottery works. The team that finishes with the fewest points gets better odds at the number 1 pick. I know it doesn't gurantee it, but you have to at least finish last to get those odds. Even if they don't finish last they have 3 picks in the first round. You completely ignored the fact that they have the number 1 talent pool according to mutiple NHL sources. Add in the 3 first rounds picks and even if they don't get Connor McDavid they are going to be absolutely LOADED with talent. This has been planned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumblefish Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 pro sports today is all about business, not a hobby for the rich like it once was, Terry P understands the bottom line, winning =revenue, so with that said you have a younger owner with profit and loss sense, bottom line is this thing can only get better for both teams, but it takes time, did Jones win at the start no, what he did was build a winner by building a team, from the top not the bottom, maybe be we all should be "patient" and give the man a chance to do what he does best, be a "successful" business man, that the rest will all fall into place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM57 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 You don't understand how the NHL lottery draft works. Having the worst record doesn't give you the highest percentage chance at the #1 overall pick. Wrong. Finishing last overall DOES give you the highest percentage chance of the #1 pick. However that chance is 20%. It is still higher than all other lottery teams. Finishing last overall also gurantees they pick either #1 (McDavid) or #2 (Eichel) so they'll be just fine since either could justifiably go #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 (edited) Lets be honest here........... We have no idea what the Pegulas will do. Its a big mistake to predict a new NFL owners course of action bases on Hockey operations. The NFL is the world's BIG BOY CLUB, unlike the NHL. I predict changes based on the Bills final record. Common sense says There will be some changes on Offense A new head coach may be considered behind closed doors and the final discion will most likely be determined by which coaches become available. EXAMPLE: If Bill Cowher says he would be willing to coach the Buffalo Bills then Doug Marrone is most likely history. -- Edited November 16, 2014 by HOUSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted November 16, 2014 Author Share Posted November 16, 2014 Wrong. Finishing last overall DOES give you the highest percentage chance of the #1 pick. However that chance is 20%. It is still higher than all other lottery teams. Finishing last overall also gurantees they pick either #1 (McDavid) or #2 (Eichel) so they'll be just fine since either could justifiably go #1. Incorrect. As a result of this change, the team earning the fewest points during the regular season will no longer be guaranteed, at worst, the second overall pick. That club could fall as low as fourth overall. It's also a big mistake to assume some fantasy "fire them all" strategy will be enacted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Sabres # 1 for a 2nd straight year in terms of prospects. They still have 3 1st round picks coming in 2015. It will take time for the Sabres. The Bills just need money spent off the field. Coaching and front office. Get that done and then watch the Bills start winning games. Hockey’s Future presents the top group of the 2014-15 Fall NHL team rankings. The teams are ranked by the overall quality of their prospect pool as voted on by the HF staff. For reference, the top five prospects are listed. To be eligible, a prospect must meet HF’s prospect criteria. The ranking is done twice a year, in the Fall and Spring. Each team’s rank from the previous rankings is listed in parentheses. The rebuilding Buffalo Sabres lead the Fall rankings. The Sabres added nine prospects to their system via the 2014 NHL Draft, including the dynamic Sam Reinhart. They have depth and skill at every position, and while the current NHL squad is struggling, the future is bright. Several of the top teams have risen several spots since the Spring, namely the Calgary Flames, New York Islanders, and Florida Panthers. All three teams not only added high quality talent from the 2014 NHL Draft, but have also seen positive growth in their prospect pool. 1. (1) Buffalo Sabres Strengths: The Buffalo Sabres are going through a painful rebuild right now but the long-term future looks very bright for the organization. There is high-end talent at every position, but the Sabres are particularly flush at forward. Sam Reinhart leads a deep group of centers that also includes the big and skilled Mikhail Grigorenko and the speedy, hardworking JT Compher. Both wings are also very deep and varied in talent, with Justin Bailey, Joel Armia, Nick Baptiste, Hudson Fasching, and Brendan Lemieux all bringing a mix of size and skill. The organization does not have the same level of depth on defense as they do at forward, but they are still very deep on the blue line and have several very promising defensive prospects in Rasmus Ristolainen, Nikita Zadorov, and Jake McCabe. Andrey Makarov leads a fairly deep pool of goaltending prospects. Weaknesses: Picking early and often in the last three NHL Drafts has left the Sabres with few major weaknesses in their prospect pool. The team could probably stand to upgrade their goaltending, and they could definitely use a franchise center to hasten the rebuild, but the prospect pool is extremely deep and trending in the right direction. Top 5 Prospects: 1. Sam Reinhart, C; 2. Rasmus Ristolainen, D; 3. Nikita Zadorov, D; 4. Mikhail Grigorenko, C; 5. Jake McCabe, D. Key Additions: Sam Reinhart (2014), Brendan Lemieux (2014) http://www.hockeysfuture.com/articles/114569/team-rankings-rebuilding-buffalo-sabres-still-have-nhls-top-prospect-pool/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=team-rankings-rebuilding-buffalo-sabres-still-have-nhls-top-prospect-pool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Incorrect. As a result of this change, the team earning the fewest points during the regular season will no longer be guaranteed, at worst, the second overall pick. That club could fall as low as fourth overall. It's also a big mistake to assume some fantasy "fire them all" strategy will be enacted. WRONG...for this year. Afetr this draft, that changes..but this year finish last and you are guaranteed no lower than 2nd, just like last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1B4IDie Posted November 16, 2014 Author Share Posted November 16, 2014 I know exactly how the NHL draft lottery works. The team that finishes with the fewest points gets better odds at the number 1 pick. I know it doesn't gurantee it, but you have to at least finish last to get those odds. Even if they don't finish last they have 3 picks in the first round. You completely ignored the fact that they have the number 1 talent pool according to mutiple NHL sources. Add in the 3 first rounds picks and even if they don't get Connor McDavid they are going to be absolutely LOADED with talent. This has been planned. My mistake. I fired off too quickly. Tanking doesn't significantly help you get the #1 overall seed if you are already a bad team. Not to mention that you are saying that Terry Pegula is the kind of owner that wants their team to Tank. I don't agree the Sabres are tanking. I think the players on the team just suck. What does having the #1 farm team has to do with Pegula fixing the Bills on the field problems? Will the Bills have the #1 Farm team too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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