26CornerBlitz Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 (edited) A program he eventually turned around, no ? No disputing that. Remains to be seen whether Saint Doug has another miracle in him. My skepticism radar is definitely on alert. Edited October 16, 2014 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 A program he eventually turned around, no ? There is not a professional version of the pinstripe bowl available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 A program he eventually turned around, no ? is a 4 season stretch of 4-8 8-5 5-7 8-5 turning around? its better, and he deserves some credit there but i dont know that its actually proving he turned the program into a consistent winner or anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 if we are going to be a 2 WR team that leans on 3 TE sets.... im not sure why we have spent 2 firsts, a second, a third, and a 6th that came with a big contract on WRs in the last 18 months and drafted only a 7th round TE and let our #1 test the waters and take him back after no interest. i agree that there is a lot of day to day we dont have access too -- whats frustrating though is running through the "what ifs" very few make me say "ah ok, that makes sense" on a global level and those that do come down pretty hard on MW (and by proxy make you wonder about marrones judgement on him in the first place). Great point. I can't tell you how irritated I get when we open every game in a 2-receiver, 2-TE set. I already know what day it is going to be on offense. Handoff to spiller, one of our power blocking TEs gets blown off the ball, 3-yd loss. We have 3, maybe 4, great receivers, with 2 RBs who are great receivers. Maybe using those guys would be a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 (edited) is a 4 season stretch of 4-8 8-5 5-7 8-5 turning around? its better, and he deserves some credit there but i dont know that its actually proving he turned the program into a consistent winner or anything. I think we are all talking ourselves into painting a terrible picture of Marrone. For sure there are items which point to him being a control freak but I am not sure that trait directly translates into being a bad/loser coach. I think about this thread as an argument with the wife - when it is heated, we pick up minor items of complaint and declare the other to be a a** or worse. In reality, we aren't that at all but rather given to a few errors. In the same way, Marrone may have stumbled a few times, but the more we discuss it and the more we dig deep, the worse he looks. I guarantee that a couple of back to back wins will dampen this thread. Edited October 16, 2014 by Fan in Chicago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 (edited) I think we are all talking ourselves into painting a terrible picture of Marrone. For sure there are items which point to him being a control freak but I am not sure that trait directly translates into being a bad/loser coach. I think about this thread as an argument with the wife - when it is heated, we pick up minor items of complaint and declare the other to be a a** or worse. In reality, we aren't that at all but rather given to a few errors. In the same way, Marrone may have stumbled a few times, but the more we discuss it and the more we dig deep, the worse he looks. I guarantee that a couple of back to back wins will dampen this thread. Explosive plays that generate large chunks of yards in one shot are a big factor in winning games in today's NFL. This Hackett/Marrone offense is showing little to know ability to create plays like this despite having explosive playmaking talent (Sammy and CJ) in the arsenal. The ultra conservative run game identity is simply not working well thus far with the OL problems we're seeing. They better figure something out quickly. Edited October 16, 2014 by 26CornerBlitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Explosive plays that generate large chunks of yards in one shot are a big factor in winning games in today's NFL. This Hackett/Marrone offense is showing little to know ability to create plays like this despite having explosive playmaking talent (Sammy and CJ) in the arsenal. The ultra conservative run game identity is simply not working well thus far with the OL problems we're seeing. They better figure something out quickly. I can see that offense being installed as they were bringing EJ along. There is zero reason to hold the reigns now. Again it all falls back on coaching ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 I think we are all talking ourselves into painting a terrible picture of Marrone. For sure there are items which point to him being a control freak but I am not sure that trait directly translates into being a bad/loser coach. I think about this thread as an argument with the wife - when it is heated, we pick up minor items of complaint and declare the other to be a a** or worse. In reality, we aren't that at all but rather given to a few errors. In the same way, Marrone may have stumbled a few times, but the more we discuss it and the more we dig deep, the worse he looks. I guarantee that a couple of back to back wins will dampen this thread. in that many on this board take last week as irrefutable proof of what the future will be, sure.... marrone isnt a total trainwreck or he wouldnt have gotten this far -- but there are several good reasons to question whether he can jump up to successful nfl coach and those arent just nitpicking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 Great point. I can't tell you how irritated I get when we open every game in a 2-receiver, 2-TE set. I already know what day it is going to be on offense. Handoff to spiller, one of our power blocking TEs gets blown off the ball, 3-yd loss. We have 3, maybe 4, great receivers, with 2 RBs who are great receivers. Maybe using those guys would be a good idea. they don't run that type of offense at Syracuse, so Marrone and hackett would have no clue what to do. Explosive plays that generate large chunks of yards in one shot are a big factor in winning games in today's NFL. This Hackett/Marrone offense is showing little to know ability to create plays like this despite having explosive playmaking talent (Sammy and CJ) in the arsenal. The ultra conservative run game identity is simply not working well thus far with the OL problems we're seeing. They better figure something out quickly. Bingo: put your playmakers in a position to make plays. Running spiller up the middle on 1st and 2nd does not do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 welp. This is YOUR time, Mike. Chris Brown @ChrisBrownBills 7m7 minutes ago WR Marquise Goodwin was limited in practice. Sustained a hamstring injury Thursday and didn't finish. #Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChan Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 welp. This is YOUR time, Mike. Chris Brown @ChrisBrownBills 7m7 minutes ago WR Marquise Goodwin was limited in practice. Sustained a hamstring injury Thursday and didn't finish. #Bills They should start calling it the Goodwin report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 They should start calling it the Goodwin report. Flash shut down his Twitter account yesterday or else I'd tweet him to get well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 welp. This is YOUR time, Mike. Chris Brown @ChrisBrownBills 7m7 minutes ago WR Marquise Goodwin was limited in practice. Sustained a hamstring injury Thursday and didn't finish. #Bills When all is said and done, I would predict that Goodwin will end up playing about 20% of the time during his Bills' career. This is fine, so long as the team knows that and doesn't do dumb things, like not activating other receivers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Dog Named Kelso Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 When all is said and done, I would predict that Goodwin will end up playing about 20% of the time during his Bills' career. This is fine, so long as the team knows that and doesn't do dumb things, like not activating other receivers. Luckily that is not something the fans will have to fear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 welp. This is YOUR time, Mike. Chris Brown @ChrisBrownBills 7m7 minutes ago WR Marquise Goodwin was limited in practice. Sustained a hamstring injury Thursday and didn't finish. #Bills Trading Mike Williams would enormously shortsighted given the demonstrated fragility of one Marquise Goodwin. The Bills should be exploring ways to get MW more involved in gameplans in the interest of winning instead of trading him away. Boom! @ChrisBrownBills Doug Marrone says WR Mike Williams has gotten reps with the first team offense in practice this week. #Bills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 16, 2014 Share Posted October 16, 2014 (edited) When all is said and done, I would predict that Goodwin will end up playing about 20% of the time during his Bills' career. This is fine, so long as the team knows that and doesn't do dumb things, like not activating other receivers. man... i want to see him stay healthy, and thought he might but its looking less and less likely. luckily he didnt take a hit early last week. i mightve melted down completely if the team was playing the pats with only 3 active/healthy WRs and hogan being one of them while trotting out lee smith and gragg for extra reps and MW was in street clothes. Edited October 16, 2014 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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