K-9 Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Three weeks in a row that we've been schooled by line stunts. This borders on inexcusable. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 I'm guessing the play was set up for Orton to see both receivers and make a decision on who to throw to based on coverage and the safety's position. Unfortunately, he had no time to decide because of Pears. It really does take just one guy screwing up for a play to get blown up. Fortunately, Orton had the experience to know what to do with the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Look how open the WR is just past the 30. My thoughts exactly! Isn't the reason they benched EJ was because he wasn't reading the defenses correctly? Oh, Orton had to throw to his first read because Pears still can't pick up line stunts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Three weeks in a row that we've been schooled by line stunts. This borders on inexcusable. GO BILLS!!! its been pretty simple stuff and just crippling to our protection. theres got to be some sort of answer to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Which is a much harder and lower-percentage throw with a DL bearing down on the QB then the one he completed, which was a very high percentage throw, if the decision was made quick. Move the chains. kj Yeah, but he's dinking and dunking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 EJ stood in the pocket and took plenty of shots while delivering the ball. And Orton's throw to Watkins was wildly inaccurate. But other than that you are right. Orton looks like HOF material to me. Where Orton deserves credit is apparently he changed the two point conversion from a throw to a run. That takes guts'/experience in that situation. It seems you are not very open minded about Orton vs EJ or don't understand football. At this point in their careers Orton is a much better QB during professional football games!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 They look great on my flip phone 80" display. Ah, so you have the new IPhone 6+, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FistingBot Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Kyle Orton is a 10-foot-tall beast man who showers in Vodka and feeds his baby Shrimp Scampi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 its been pretty simple stuff and just crippling to our protection. theres got to be some sort of answer to it. I can almost understand it vs. Houston and Detroit as they have two ALL World defensive linemen that they needed to double team and that WILL make stunting easier. But still, you KNOW when you're gonna double going into the play, and yet, we seem to get fooled by it often. Combined with Pears' lack of quickness, it's a recipe of disaster because he can't seem to recover fast enough. Frustrating to watch. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 I'm not certain I've seen Orton make any throws EJ couldn't make. I am certain that Orton was more consistent with both his throws and decisions than EJ has been this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 I'm not certain I've seen Orton make any throws EJ couldn't make. I am certain that Orton was more consistent with both his throws and decisions than EJ has been this year. It's more like wouldn't make. Orton's experience allows him to trust what he sees and be willing to wait a hair longer. EJ sees the same things, but he's not confident. Nor is he patient yet. And we've all seen the happy feet and subsequent mechanical breakdowns that result. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l< j Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 Yeah, but he's dinking and dunking. 16 yard gain and a first down is anything but dink and dunk. Again, a high percentage throw allowing YAC. Move the chains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted William's frozen head Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 (edited) This single screen shot illustrates why Orton is a better option than EJ right now. It displays two things..#1 quick decision making... #2 making an accurate throw while taking a hit to the face. EJ would probably pull it in and do the reverse spin move here. "'Erik Pears fooled'. Indeed. It's more like wouldn't make. Orton's experience allows him to trust what he sees and be willing to wait a hair longer. EJ sees the same things, but he's not confident. Nor is he patient yet. And we've all seen the happy feet and subsequent mechanical breakdowns that result. GO BILLS!!! EJ plays like he is in the middle of a living nightmare. He'll never amount to anything at the position if he doesn't 'man up'. Edited October 7, 2014 by Ted William's frozen head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 I can almost understand it vs. Houston and Detroit as they have two ALL World defensive linemen that they needed to double team and that WILL make stunting easier. But still, you KNOW when you're gonna double going into the play, and yet, we seem to get fooled by it often. Combined with Pears' lack of quickness, it's a recipe of disaster because he can't seem to recover fast enough. Frustrating to watch. GO BILLS!!! the thing that gets me is that its totally expected and seems like a surprise so often as you noted. i dont expect them to be immaculate in protection, but not to have the same thing beat you so consistently would be great. we will be seeing lots of it until we prove we can stop it. hopefully a good chunk of the success was simply elite talent being elite, but i suspect it will continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bocephuz Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share Posted October 7, 2014 the thing that gets me is that its totally expected and seems like a surprise so often as you noted. i dont expect them to be immaculate in protection, but not to have the same thing beat you so consistently would be great. we will be seeing lots of it until we prove we can stop it. hopefully a good chunk of the success was simply elite talent being elite, but i suspect it will continue. It's brutal when you face both elite talent and good scheming... as we have had to face the last two games. Amazing thing is we had a chance to win the Houston game and ended up winning the Detroit game. Very encouraging to me as the talent gap can't be that big anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4BillsintheBurgh Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 This is the issue plain and simple. You cannot root out over a decade of playing OT in a few training camp practices. OTs are natural edge blockers, and thus lock onto the outermost defender to ride him out of the play. OGs need to be able to squeeze together, redirect, and exchange/pass across the face on stunts. Pears is playing OG like an OT, and it's exacerbating his lack of a natural guard's body type. +1 I don't think Seantrel is good enough to help him either, and Wood is helping Richardson. Pears still has to do better. Question is, has Pears progressed with his technique this year? It will be interesting to see if Pears holds his starting role when C Williams gets back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 ... EJ plays like he is in the middle of a living nightmare. He'll never amount to anything at the position if he doesn't 'man up'. That comes with confidence. the thing that gets me is that its totally expected and seems like a surprise so often as you noted. i dont expect them to be immaculate in protection, but not to have the same thing beat you so consistently would be great. we will be seeing lots of it until we prove we can stop it. hopefully a good chunk of the success was simply elite talent being elite, but i suspect it will continue. Got that right. San Diego doesn't have a Watt or Suh last I saw and they KILLED us with stunts. I'm not under the illusion that Belicheck can't dial up even more exotic stunt looks. Our Gs have to play better. It's that simple. GO BILLS!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 @RyantheWzrd: Every Kyle Orton Pass from last sundays game. #bills Credit to the Bills Reddit http://t.co/O7C1eoO0of #Vimeo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwalter Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 that is clearly two screen shots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 that is clearly two screen shots the OP made a quick read, but his accuracy was way off.... im thinking we should bench him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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