dpberr Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 I've watched this show from Season 1 to this season, which will be its last. This season, along with last year's really changed the show in a fundamental way, in my opinion. At the outset, Jax and the rest of the Sons were generally likable characters. You wanted to root for them. The only people that usually got killed were other "bad guys". Now it seems that each show tries to outdo the last in terms of violence and body count and Jax and the gang are now a bunch of homicidal socioapaths for the most part. You wonder who isn't on that show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaJoe Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 I predict the show will end with Jax killing Jemma when he finds out what she did, Abel will see him hurting grandma and shoot him, and then 20 years in the future it ends with Jax's sons leading the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkAF43 Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 I predict the show will end with Jax killing Jemma when he finds out what she did, Abel will see him hurting grandma and shoot him, and then 20 years in the future it ends with Jax's sons leading the club. I thought that too, but the way Sutter writes, it seems too predictable that's how it will end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 (edited) ive said it plenty of times - its loosely hamlet, and errrrrybody dies in hamlet. i think the twist sutter puts is some sort of hope that the kids get out of the lifestyle Edited October 1, 2014 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted October 1, 2014 Author Share Posted October 1, 2014 I've wondered if the entirity of the show is actually the past. It's both sons reading dad's (Jax's) letters to them. As the camera pulls back you see the eldest son as the current (future) county sheriff, looking across the desk to his younger brother, a newly minted deputy in the department. End scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 (edited) I've wondered if the entirity of the show is actually the past. It's both sons reading dad's (Jax's) letters to them. As the camera pulls back you see the eldest son as the current (future) county sheriff, looking across the desk to his younger brother, a newly minted deputy in the department. End scene. i don't know if Abel and The younger son (Thomas)??? Are going to be law enforcement. But I like the idea and could see it happening. I will say that I like the Hamlett angle as well. Everyone dying. Probably except a few key players. Tig I think walls off before Jax heards everyone into certain Death. He'll leave with his tranny and live happily ever after. Chibs might get out with his Sheriff and had back to Scottland before all is said and done. Happy could die, or he could be the only one standing because he's just plain crazy and seems like he could live through anything. (He's my favorite character FYI and is an actual Hells Angel brought on the show originally for assistance). These are my ideas. In the end, Charming might actually be "Charming" at some point and people make site no one ever ruins their town ever again. Who knows. Edited October 1, 2014 by mrags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 1, 2014 Share Posted October 1, 2014 (edited) i don't know if Abel and The younger son (Thomas)??? Are going to be law enforcement. But I like the idea and could see it happening. I will say that I like the Hamlett angle as well. Everyone dying. Probably except a few key players. Tig I think walls off before Jax heards everyone into certain Death. He'll leave with his tranny and live happily ever after. Chibs might get out with his Sheriff and had back to Scottland before all is said and done. Happy could die, or he could be the only one standing because he's just plain crazy and seems like he could live through anything. (He's my favorite character FYI and is an actual Hells Angel brought on the show originally for assistance). These are my ideas. In the end, Charming might actually be "Charming" at some point and people make site no one ever ruins their town ever again. Who knows. for a spoiler alert ==== I REPEAT === SPOILER ALERT......... its not a huge plot spoiler, but does give the end direction--- sutter has said repeatedly in interviews that this story does not end well for the main characters. it, like hamlet, is a full on tragedy. who, what, when, how, is all up in the air but id say you are safe to expect a blood bath from here out and the love interests (for jax, chibs, tig) are just to remind that these guys are not just killers before they face their ultimate consequence (get you to like them or atleast remember they have some human traits besides revenge before they get killed). Edited October 1, 2014 by NoSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 The Hamlet angle was the original premise of the series and was stated by the creators. But if you needed any more evidence Clay = Claudius Gemma = Gertrude Ophelia = Opie (slight twist from Shakespeare, lifelong friend vs love interest) Pelonius = Piney I think everybody is of the opinion that Jax will eventually discover Gemma's secret and kill her. And that Jax, and just about everybody else, ends up meeting an untimely and bloody demise. But.... Did you catch the end of last nights episode? Both Juice and Gemma were packing up for their little road trip together. Juice attached a can to one of his pistols and Gemma was loading up her own supressed sidearms. Only one other person besides Gemma knows what really happened to Tara... Oh, and did anybody else totally lose all respect for Tig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 The Hamlet angle was the original premise of the series and was stated by the creators. But if you needed any more evidence Clay = Claudius Gemma = Gertrude Ophelia = Opie (slight twist from Shakespeare, lifelong friend vs love interest) Pelonius = Piney I think everybody is of the opinion that Jax will eventually discover Gemma's secret and kill her. And that Jax, and just about everybody else, ends up meeting an untimely and bloody demise. But.... Did you catch the end of last nights episode? Both Juice and Gemma were packing up for their little road trip together. Juice attached a can to one of his pistols and Gemma was loading up her own supressed sidearms. Only one other person besides Gemma knows what really happened to Tara... Oh, and did anybody else totally lose all respect for Tig I've been outlining the characters that way for a long time- the opie one hangs a lot of people up but it seems obvious that they were soul mates of sorts and the naming pattern matches- it's obvious without being too blatant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Fong Posted October 2, 2014 Share Posted October 2, 2014 This season has been a real struggle to get through for me. I totally agree with you about the current state of the characters. Jax always had a definable goal. This season he's s rudderless ship and completely unlikeable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted October 4, 2014 Share Posted October 4, 2014 I've been outlining the characters that way for a long time- the opie one hangs a lot of people up but it seems obvious that they were soul mates of sorts and the naming pattern matches- it's obvious without being too blatant. Last weeks episode got me thinking that maybe Layla = Laertes. Could the bloodbath at DN coupled with any lingering animosities over Opie's death push her over the limit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 I loved that prison visit scene with Juice, Unser, and the Sheriff where Juice described Gemma as "The Gatekeeper" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Just started watching it a couple weeks ago. Not sure about it. It's like All My Children with bikers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Just started watching it a couple weeks ago. Not sure about it. It's like All My Children with bikers. with lots of killing, hookers, and blow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 with lots of killing, hookers, and blow I don't remember blow on the show even once. Marijuana, Meth (crank) and H. In terms of perscriped drugs that will get you high I remember adderall (season 3) being mentioned and Oxy (juice overdose). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 Ok. You don't need to be so literal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 I don't remember blow on the show even once. Marijuana, Meth (crank) and H. In terms of perscriped drugs that will get you high I remember adderall (season 3) being mentioned and Oxy (juice overdose). There was a season they muled coke for a drug cartel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 There was a season they muled coke for a drug cartel You get a gold star, sir! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillsForever Posted November 22, 2014 Share Posted November 22, 2014 There was a season they muled coke for a drug cartel Hey Dev, you made me feel like a casual with that REALLY embarrassing lapse in memory of this show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in San Diego Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Who knows how it ends, my guess is Jax goes to kill Jemma, tig tries to stop him and a huge gunfight erupts and everyone gets shot and killed? Just a guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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